Thoughts on Lesson 3

[Scott]

I find it strange that Judaeo-Christianity keeps getting accused of being sex negative and repressive. I guess it would be like how everyone thinks that BDSM people are violent drug addicts.

Reading through Angelique%rsquos lesson leaves me with the impression that she has gotten most of her facts directly from the Bible itself, even though it keeps getting a bad rap!

Some of the things in the lesson that the Bible agrees with are; approaching sex as something spiritual and not just lust. All needs are fulfilled in the bliss of marriage with the Devine. Sex without love leaves one empty, eventually causing addiction.  God created us as sexual beings. God wants us to deny our ego%rsquos and become one with him. God wants us to experience sacred sexuality. Sexuality is looked upon as a blessing from God.

She points out that sex for the sake of lust leaves one empty and leads to addiction. That is about all the Bible has ever said against sex. Of course it encourages us to take one partner for life and not just any partner, but someone who is on the same level spiritually as you are. Someone who can bring you physical, sexual and spiritual pleasure. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Personally I have had to deal with sexual addiction myself, which was caused by low self-esteem. Not only that, but I felt guilty because I was not married to, nor did I have any spiritual connection with my partners, thereby going against Biblical teachings. Having dealt with the low self-esteem, I don%rsquot have the same urge as before to go out and have sex just to satisfy my ego. Naturally I still have sexual urges, but like Angelique said, they can be taken care of solo. Personally I am looking for a relationship that is much deeper than the physical level, something spiritual, like it was meant to be.

Is there something wrong with my thinking? Any comments would be appreciated.

Scott

[Mystress]

: Reading through Angelique%rsquos lesson leaves me with the impression that she has gotten most of her facts directly from the Bible itself, even though it keeps getting a bad rap!

Scott, I was raised strict Roman Catholic, even went to Catholic separate schools... baptized, confirmed, confessed, the whole meal deal. I was a heretic from age 2, but I do know the religion inside out and backwards.

 I do know whereof I speak. Christianity has been extremely sex-negative for most of its history. Sex only for procreation, and women are supposed to only want it out of desire for children. Masturbation is right out, the sin of Onanism, spilling the seed on the ground. No options for birth control, stoning to death as punishment for infidelity, etc.

:  God wants us to deny our ego%rsquos and become one with him. God wants us to experience sacred sexuality. Sexuality is looked upon as a blessing from God.

Ya know, in all my teachings I would never go so far into ego as to claim to know what God or Goddess wants, except for myself, my own path.

:  That is about all the Bible has ever said against sex.

I am beginning to wonder if you have ever actualy read the Bible.

:Of course it encourages us to take one partner for life and not just any partner, but someone who is on the same level spiritually as you are. Someone who can bring you physical, sexual and spiritual pleasure. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Modern science has discovered that the very mechanics of the bodies God designed appear to not be made for monogamy at all. Did you know that some of your sperm are "killer sperm" that do nothing but seek out and kill sperm from other men? Or that men release 10x more of this type of sperm, and 10x more sperm altogether when they are with a woman who is not their wife? Why would a God who wants monogamy create a procreative advantage toward infidelity?

Don't answer that, meditate on it. Also meditate on how you are supposed to find a partner who is your spiritual equal when all women but Mary are too spiritually inferior to even be allowed to preach?  

: Personally I have had to deal with sexual addiction myself, which was caused by low self-esteem. Not only that, but I felt guilty because I was not married to, nor did I have any spiritual connection with my partners, thereby going against Biblical teachings. Having dealt with the low self-esteem, I don%rsquot have the same urge as before to go out and have sex just to satisfy my ego. Naturally I still have sexual urges, but like Angelique said, they can be taken care of solo.

Which, incidentally, goes against Christian teachings. Old Testament, Onan used the withdrawl method of birth control when he was with another man's wife and got punished for wasting precious seed.

: Is there something wrong with my thinking? Any comments would be appreciated.

This sort of stuff comes up to be surrendered, not defended. The three primary patriarchal religions, Judeaism, Christianity and Moslem are called by some "the people of the book" because all three are based on the Old Testament.

 The Buddhists have a phrase "if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." The meaning of it is that seeing the Buddha (God) outside of yourself is one of the greatest obstacles to enlightenment. Jesus said that we all have his power of miracles, insight and healing... he never asked to be worshipped.

  When Kundalini awakens, Goddess gives you a chance for direct experience of the Divine. Serve That, within yourself and have none before.

Seeing God in a book, a religion, a person or a course is a Buddha to be killed, a false idol that is in the way of your opening to the fullness of Direct experience. Goddess is All that Is, and within everything, but you cannot see it until you put God-dess within yourself, first.

This stuff the lessons trigger in you, is resistance to be surrendered, not defended or promoted.

 Study the old testament story of Gideon. The warriors he chose were powerful because they served God within themselves first, and had none before... and when the Jews wanted Gideon to be King, he declined for the same reason.

 Gandhi said "The still, small voice within, is the only Tyrant I will accept." He was speaking of the heart voice, the inner Guru. The point of these first 10 or so lessons is to open that, in you... and devote yourself to following it... not a book, or a religion. Not me. I only point a way to get there, and as the Osho quote on the opening page suggests, you must use discernment and find your own truth.

 If the voice of God speaking through the still, small voice of your opened and cleared heart tells you some of the Bible or your Christian beliefs are not true, will you follow that or will you think it is a devil and continue obeying a book?

 When I was two years old, I travelled to the fiery heart of the Earth and the Love that is there said I was It's child. The religion of my upbringing said hell was underground... I knew from direct experience it was not true but I certainly could not say so as a little catholic grrl!!  Now the Pope says that Hell is not a place, but a state of mind... religions change, interpretations change, but the Heart is truth... truth that is universal, but also unique to you, your own path for this lifetime.

What will you choose to serve?

 Blessings...

[Scott]

Thanks for replying. As you probably know, the Roman Catholic Religion is very much different than that of the Evangelicals, which is why I have a much different view point on the Bibles teachings. I am beginning to see more and more though, that if each and every religion would just strip all their Preconceived biased thoughts
away, that they start to all become as one. It is something that is a long way off though. Christianity (I realize it has been around forever) is just starting to make an attempt at catching up with the post modern world by taking a critical look at their interpretation of the Bible. There's going to have to be a generation or two passing away before it happens though. Like you said, God is bigger than religion itself.

As for me... I'm not sure where this is all leading, but I just letting that still small voice in side of me guide me on this fascinating   journey. Most people cannot wrap their heads around this stuff, whereas I embrace most of it. I've heard that there is a balance within all families, my Dad is more or less completely closed minded, and I seem to be just the opposite.

Well I hope your patient with me. I'm not trying to upset anyone with my posts. I just need to make  certain things clearer in my mind and am not always sure if I'm clear and careful enough with the spirit of my posts, to not step on someone else's toes while I'm writing them.

Trying to let it all go.
Scott