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Passing this along....

Started by Sean, Nov 16, 2001, 04:49:41 PM

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Sean

Hello Mystress,


I think I'm supposed to let you know what I found out about.... Last night. I was going in my voice chat to different spiritual rooms and just asking questions to any empaths that were there. I'm really turning this all around now. I'm looking into the good sides of all this and building it up. So that was my question. What do you like about empathy? I was asking this to anyone that said they were.

Results?

Surprisingly there was one or 2 in most of the rooms. They were all the new age thinking. Few were actually really empaths, and out of those...

None had any good things to say about it. Some said its been getting worse. I'd mention feelers but they didnt know what I was talking about. They all went on and on about blocking it all out. And how I have to do this too. Of course I just took the results and left. Last lady I talked to said its been getting worse since 9/11, and that everyone else she knows like this has experienced this too. You can go on and on as too the reasons... But thats what I heard.


So then I thought.

I am so glad.. SOO glad that I am here. I dont care what's going on. I'm just sooooo glad... This is the right spot... Thank you. Thank you. (waves feelers, thanks unconcious, thinks about flying to beautiful places..) Wooo!

Then.. These guys are going to go nuts pretty soon. That stuff they think they know is not going to hold them forever. Or, you might get really busy pretty soon as these people start looking for something else.... Or... I could send em the link to you to get them to experience the truth inside of themselves.... eventually.. They are pretty caught up in what they think after all. But this might mean more of us all the time.  Or.. Godess has it all handled already.


Anyways, I woke up today and asked, "What do I do today?" One of the things was to let you know what I found out.. But you might already know this... So I'm hands off.

Ok.. done

Sean






Mystress


:  Hello Mystress,

:
:  None had any good things to say about it. Some said its been getting worse. I'd mention feelers but they didnt know what I was talking about. They all went on and on about blocking it all out. And how I have to do this too. Of course I just took the results and left. Last lady I talked to said its been getting worse since 9/11, and that everyone else she knows like this has experienced this too. You can go on and on as too the reasons... But thats what I heard.

Yeah, I do know about this. As it says in the heaing essay in the K-list shared files, I most often teach surrender and karmic release to overwhelmed empaths.

 9/11... an important event for mass consciousness shift. The trauma that made the fracture of the American group ego, to let the light begin to come in.
Oddly enough, I was pretty balanced after 9/11, detached until I reached out to some other empaths who were upset, and got caught in the projections. Crashed. Got out the other side with a lot of insights into the situation that I have been mostly keeping to myself.

:  So then I thought.

:  I am so glad.. SOO glad that I am here. I dont care what's going on. I'm just sooooo glad... This is the right spot... Thank you. Thank you. (waves feelers, thanks unconcious, thinks about flying to beautiful places..) Wooo!

:)

:  Then.. These guys are going to go nuts pretty soon. That stuff they think they know is not going to hold them forever. Or, you might get really busy pretty soon as these people start looking for something else.... Or... I could send em the link to you to get them to experience the truth inside of themselves.... eventually.. They are pretty caught up in what they think after all. But this might mean more of us all the time.  Or.. Godess has it all handled already.

All of the above. :)
I mentioned thinking of writing a book on empathy... thought of you reading "Highly Sensitive people"... but I think that book does not really understand the energy dynamic of empathy well enough to show the path out. I have not read it... what do you think?

:
:  Anyways, I woke up today and asked, "What do I do today?" One of the things was to let you know what I found out.. But you might already know this... So I'm hands off.

:  Ok.. done

:  Sean

Thanks..:)
:  






Sean


Hello Mystress,

you wrote..
I mentioned thinking of writing a book on empathy... thought of you reading "Highly Sensitive people"... but I think that book does not really understand the energy dynamic of empathy well enough to show the path out. I have not read it... what do you think?
: :


 I'm still working on that post. A lot of things are opened with it. Still sleeping on it. But about your book idea. It will work. Simply because you know what they dont, what we need to know. They dont have a clue. What I've learned here in me is absolutly vital for living every day. And there are a lot of people out there that need to know this too, but are reading things that either are wrong, or never hit the truth.

"The Highly Sensitive Person" is not a very good book really. Its more like.. There are others like us out there, your not an alien.. And here are some traits that you might fit into. Done. Nothing about energy at all.

I have another. By Kyra Mesich "The Sensitive Persons Survival Guide" She actually goes a bit into empathy but never makes the hit as to what the real deal is. She talks about using flower essenses to calm you down enough, and release the knot that is in your solar plexus. Then you can talk to it and get answers.(Well she was close) She talks about not very good shield meditations etc... Now this actually worked for me for about a few days. The essenses did de-stress me and help with the knot. But it ended up not working because I cannot handle the essenses at all. So I kept on searching. Anyway, she never made the connection, and thought you can prescribe something to treat this. She tells stories about how people were "treated" for this and can now live more normal lives because of flower essenses. Same with anything else thats vibrational medicine. This works to not be bothered by other people as much, get psychic abilities etc... None of the good stuff, the important stuff... Like talking to Goddess for starters. Thats pretty important I think.


This is where you come in. You know what these others dont. You have the key. The real deal. Nobody else can even come close to your knowledge in this area. And this knowledge is whats missing from all of the books I had been reading. They have not gone beyond the research, the interviews, the personality traits, the psych testing, the medicines, All of the physical things. When it comes down to it. They actualy don't know what this really is. You do!

I say write. Write everything. If these people across the planet only knew what they have inside of them. And what they could do with it. There would be big changes. Instead of being miserable and hating themselves like I did for so long, or just not understanding at the very minumum, they could stand out and shine with newly realised power within. Understanding this is sooooooooo important!

I'd love to read a book about me. I always have to translate it how it is all the time. In my books on loss.. They list a bunch of types of loss... All for your average people though. What about my loss of that connection? What about the loss of my feelers? Where do I fit in here? Has anyone even heard of spiritual/psychic abuse? Or how to work that out? Once again nothing fits me. But this is very real, and needs to be talked about. This goes for any book where people are searching for answers. Everything could be re-written to include our own needs.

It would be great to have a book. Like an owners manual. Or an emergency guide. Anything thats true about this. Doesnt have to be big, just true. At least for a start.  Just to get it flowing.

Just did a seach for books on empathy. Nothing. A few on psychology that thinks its something else... There is really nothing out there like this that I know of.

I could go on and on about how much of a good idea this is....  I'll have to do it later though :)


Take care...

Sean




Mystress

  Love your enthusiasm, Sean.. :) Thanks! Nice energy.

I was already working on a book, a little basic manual of spiritual awakening. Didn't have a title for it, but I have decided to sharpen the focus and make it into a survival manual for empaths. :)
 Like I mentioned this past week or so I have been getting so many new insights on empathy, I wondered if I was reading over your shoulder... but some of them were too personal to fit. Like realizing that a friend of mine who I do not spend much time with because he is a non stop talking wall of noise, is actually in an unconscious effort to fill the space with himself and keep people out.
Seems that Goddess is pushing me in this direction, and I like it. The book feels already written, and it mostly is. I have been writing to my lists about this stuff, counselling empaths since I got online in 1996. Knitting snippets of my own archives together, is an easier way to write, than starting from scratch.

 So, can I use some of your messages, your case history in my book? :) I think I will be asking a lot of people that question, in the next few months... I wonder if I need a signed release form, or if consent by email is enough. Anybody know?
   Blessings!


:
:  Hello Mystress,

:  you wrote..
:  I mentioned thinking of writing a book on empathy... thought of you reading "Highly Sensitive people"... but I think that book does not really understand the energy dynamic of empathy well enough to show the path out. I have not read it... what do you think?
: : :

:
:   I'm still working on that post. A lot of things are opened with it. Still sleeping on it. But about your book idea. It will work. Simply because you know what they dont, what we need to know. They dont have a clue. What I've learned here in me is absolutly vital for living every day. And there are a lot of people out there that need to know this too, but are reading things that either are wrong, or never hit the truth.

:  "The Highly Sensitive Person" is not a very good book really. Its more like.. There are others like us out there, your not an alien.. And here are some traits that you might fit into. Done. Nothing about energy at all.

:  I have another. By Kyra Mesich "The Sensitive Persons Survival Guide" She actually goes a bit into empathy but never makes the hit as to what the real deal is. She talks about using flower essenses to calm you down enough, and release the knot that is in your solar plexus. Then you can talk to it and get answers.(Well she was close) She talks about not very good shield meditations etc... Now this actually worked for me for about a few days. The essenses did de-stress me and help with the knot. But it ended up not working because I cannot handle the essenses at all. So I kept on searching. Anyway, she never made the connection, and thought you can prescribe something to treat this. She tells stories about how people were "treated" for this and can now live more normal lives because of flower essenses. Same with anything else thats vibrational medicine. This works to not be bothered by other people as much, get psychic abilities etc... None of the good stuff, the important stuff... Like talking to Goddess for starters. Thats pretty important I think.

:
:  This is where you come in. You know what these others dont. You have the key. The real deal. Nobody else can even come close to your knowledge in this area. And this knowledge is whats missing from all of the books I had been reading. They have not gone beyond the research, the interviews, the personality traits, the psych testing, the medicines, All of the physical things. When it comes down to it. They actualy don't know what this really is. You do!


:  I say write. Write everything. If these people across the planet only knew what they have inside of them. And what they could do with it. There would be big changes. Instead of being miserable and hating themselves like I did for so long, or just not understanding at the very minumum, they could stand out and shine with newly realised power within. Understanding this is sooooooooo important!

:  I'd love to read a book about me. I always have to translate it how it is all the time. In my books on loss.. They list a bunch of types of loss... All for your average people though. What about my loss of that connection? What about the loss of my feelers? Where do I fit in here? Has anyone even heard of spiritual/psychic abuse? Or how to work that out? Once again nothing fits me. But this is very real, and needs to be talked about. This goes for any book where people are searching for answers. Everything could be re-written to include our own needs.

:  It would be great to have a book. Like an owners manual. Or an emergency guide. Anything thats true about this. Doesnt have to be big, just true. At least for a start.  Just to get it flowing.

:  Just did a seach for books on empathy. Nothing. A few on psychology that thinks its something else... There is really nothing out there like this that I know of.

:  I could go on and on about how much of a good idea this is....  I'll have to do it later though :)

:
:  Take care...

:  Sean






Sean


Hello Mystress,

Yup, you can use whatever you like. Cant wait for it to get out there! Ok.. Im going to go back to being new....


Sean

:   So, can I use some of your messages, your case history in my book? :) I think I will be asking a lot of people that question, in the next few months... I wonder if I need a signed release form, or if consent by email is enough. Anybody know?





Sean


Hello Mystress,


Remembered this. Domino effect. I was ok too till I saw that you where effected by it. Then it got me... Heh.. This is important to know. One goes down, we all go down.

Take care...


Sean


:  Oddly enough, I was pretty balanced after 9/11, detached until I reached out to some other empaths who were upset, and got caught in the projections. Crashed. Got out the other side with a lot of insights into the situation that I have been mostly keeping to myself.





Rebeckah

Sean, maybe you should write a book too? You sound more than qualified. :) It really sounds like you know what you want to read in a book though?

Mystress said:
:   Like realizing that a friend of mine who I do not spend much time with because he is a non stop talking wall of noise, is actually in an unconscious effort to fill the space with himself and keep people out.

I realized this was part of my illness too... making noise to keep me focused in my space and body. To keep others out of my energy. I used to pick up everything. Like, one AM I was laying in bed and got incredibly aroused for no reason at all. About a minute later the bed in the next apartment started slamming against the wall rhytmically and I started laughing. lol!


Seriously though, the only thing I ever found to help was to trust the world as safe and know that I won't get more than I can handle. I wouldn't feel other's stuff if there wasn't something in me that wanted healing or release that vibrated in harmony with their stuff.

Also, I learned to detach from other people and the outcomes of their life. I guess it's being the witness and allowing others to BE. We each want to experience our own experiences, which is why we go to such lengths to set them up. Detachment took me awhile to learn though, and I had some people really violate me *spiritually*, or energetically in order to learn it. If I just focus within all is fine. :)
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