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Hanging around with others who are into different stuff than me...

Started by TwinDragon, Apr 07, 2012, 03:53:32 AM

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TwinDragon

And not get affected...

I've never had any trouble with spirits with bad intentions before, always been safe and protected!

But after I spent some time with an energy vampire who are into demons and stuff, I've been having a hard time. My protective bubble has gotten these leaks and holes in it, which I am constantly working on repairing! I have been getting these odd underworld creatures and spirits coming into my personal field, which has been hard for me to boot out! They're different from the normal entities which I easily transmute into light... And now it is said that this guy manifested some ancient demon, which seemingly posessed him at times. But it seems it is an inspireing force for some live roleplay, and will pass. When I looked at him the first times I hanged around with him, I saw a lot of black shapes seeming to try to get into his mind, but in my apartment, I have a boundary that these energies are not allowed to come in. So I looked at them and they left. Don't know, but he seems interrested in keeping them around him and I don't mind that. He is an artist and gets seems to get a lot of inspiration from these things. My problem has been empathic relatedness with him. And now I have the same problem (to me it is a problem), and not being able to keep these astral energies out, and they're real annoying, to me. My grounding lately haven't been good either, and I have a problem with not being able to keep from empathizing that which I focus on, so when I focus on them, I feel their intentions as my own etc. And plus I have a tendency to get into the witness state too easily.

Any one have some insights or comments, I appreciate it!

Goddess please take whatever is in me that causes this so stay stuck... And please heal my aura! Thank you very much!

edward

Why do you hang around people like that?

Ask your DB to block out ghosts and stuff like that from your conciusness.

Entity-voices, thoughtforms etc: "Guardian Angels, take this into the light, thank you".

Maybe it is your focus on these entities, that attract these types of things - maybe you like the attention, have you considered that?  ;)


Edward

TwinDragon

I have asked DB and Guardian Angels to do that ^^, It is just, I got drawn down into a bit of a mess through empathicly relating with anothers experience etc.

Hmm, I really don't like the attention... Dislike it very very much just if some spirit it the least curious about me, sensing my aura if I'm out somewhere. I just have to work on keeping my bubble with the violet-pink shell...

But I have a feeling this will clear soon. Thanks for commenting!

TwinDragon

Just some thoughts that came to me, asking DB to take my awareness of the stuff, and then asking Guardian Angels to take it, will propably assist to make it easier for them to actually take it! So that my focus on  it won't create attachments... Thanks Goddess!

Blossom

If you dislike the attention does that mean you fear it? does the fear make you want to run away? does fear make you want to put up shields (because you fear violation/boundary crossing)?  do you fear they will cause you harm (that you're unsafe)? If you fear something you desire its opposite. Fear being the root of the issue will draw it in to you. It is in part resistance (and persistence) because the more you push against it the greater the opposing force will be (just like with anything). So, my suggestion would be to work on surrendering those underlying fears.

Ernst

Dear TwinDragon
What works for me is if I remember and focus on who Am I - the Goddess in me (which is sometimes really hard ;) ) â€" in relation the shadows appear just what they truly are â€" just shadows. I try to focus more on the light more than on the shadows and that helps too. Sometimes simple ignoring them works.. 

Did you consult your guides what would be good solution for you?

All the best to you and may the Goddess force be with you to help you in your situation - Blessings
Ernst

PS: I am a newbie (Lesson 4) â€" there might be more on FST which I have no idea about now :)

TwinDragon

Quote from: Blossom on Apr 07, 2012, 04:02:45 PM
If you dislike the attention does that mean you fear it? does the fear make you want to run away? does fear make you want to put up shields (because you fear violation/boundary crossing)?  do you fear they will cause you harm (that you're unsafe)? If you fear something you desire its opposite. Fear being the root of the issue will draw it in to you. It is in part resistance (and persistence) because the more you push against it the greater the opposing force will be (just like with anything). So, my suggestion would be to work on surrendering those underlying fears.

No I don't fear it, maybe that's my problem, I see them, and go huh, that's strange, and forget to check with my body on what instincts tell me about it. "because the more you push against it the greater the opposing force will be" I know, and this is usually true for me, but not with this it seems. The more I accept these entities, the more they seem to want to stay, so I need to reclaim my boundaries on this. I have tendencies for ADD and so I'm easily kicked out of my body. And plus there's an odd thing about my empathy and sensitiveness to projections. It is that, I can sense the incoming flow of energy, and get curious about what it is, and don't let all projections go straight up to Goddess automaticly on the outside of my aura... Anger tends to also put me out easily, if there's underlying anger behind something. Scenario that actually happened: I'm at a bar, there's a guy walking next to me, I sense a flow of energy coming from him, I don't reject it, but feel it instead, and instead of reading the energy I become it's reflection. I was just curious to what that flow was, coming at me, and suddenly I'm thinking I am an alcoholic, and then I go huh, I am not.  I honestly felt for a few seconds like I was that, yet I am not. (I do enjoy to go out and drink but use it for social purposes, to have to nice time with friends.) And then this guy sais fucking alcoholic to me, in a low voice. There's the boundary thing. If I do not reject those energy flows, I become their reflection. I need to figure out how to deal with/surrender this...

Thanks for good advices though, I usually agree...

robink

On a personal note, I have been also dealing with empathy and boundary issues lately as well (although not to the same degree). My experience so far is that empathy results in boundaries being crossed, my solar plexus feels violated. Sometimes just thinking about a person that I love makes me melt, however the solar plexus still feels violated, so I dont do it. I don’t know if it’s just my karma being triggered or what, but something does not feel right about it. Even thinking about a person for a few seconds can create a link, resulting in loose boundaries, my solar plexus rebels.  Keeping my attention turned inwards is becoming almost a requirement to keep my solar plexus happy. Someone tell me if this is not normal?

Mystress once pointed out to me the concept of seeing people as existing within our own heart as opposed to seeing them as being separate people outside of ourselves. In this way, we don’t relate to their stuff, but the being-ness that lies beneath it, we are them too, inner and outer become one. I really don’t know much about it experientially (I would like to); however, I feel it could possibly be the way forward in terms of relating to others without, violating the boundaries of our bodies or embodying whatever they are aiming at us. I’m really not the best person to talk about it; maybe someone else here can provide more insights.

edward

Robin,

I think it's normal :)

Edward

Quote from: robink on Apr 10, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
...Keeping my attention turned inwards is becoming almost a requirement to keep my solar plexus happy. Someone tell me if this is not normal?

Blossom

I don't quite understand what you're trying to convey because you seem to be contradictory. In your first post you mentioned a protective bubble. Is this something you construct yourself? If you go to the effort of creating something for protection it suggests that you have some insecurities. Insecurity is fear.

Next you said that you don't like attention. If you dislike something that means you hold resistance to it and you're going to have a reaction to it if it comes into your experience.

You also said you "dislike it very very much just if some spirit it the least curious about me, sensing my aura if I'm out somewhere. I just have to work on keeping my bubble with the violet-pink shell." Again, you mention the need for 'protection' and 'disliking' the attention.

And regarding your curiousity into others energies (you said "I was just curious to what that flow was") means that you don't know how to mind your own business and have some issues with remaining detached. Re-reading the empathy page on the k-teacher site would be very useful because it pertains to your issues.

Mystress (on that page) states that "The empathy serves you by helping you to uncover your own ego issues and motivating you to surrender them. After all, what you see in others is a reflection of you, and the empathy does not stick persistently unless there is an issue of your own being triggered by it... so surrender their stuff that is in you, and your own stuff will clear too."
http://kundalini-teacher.com/chakras/empathy.php

Blossom


robink

Thanks for the links Blossom, the one on the power chakra is new to me. It is exactly the information I was looking for  :). Of course thanks to Mystress as well (for writing it), it is very thorough!
QuoteAnd perhaps SP too http://kundalini-teacher.com/chakras/power.php. As it relates to boundaries.

Mari

Twindragon, I do understand your frustation. First it's good to be mindful with whom you hang out. But I see you think you need something from the folks that channel consciously underworld creatures. It was a long and painful journey for me to finally see and accept the black magician inside of myself, under all my lightworker new age good intentions. I was attracted to a man, that I obsessively thought being vicious black magician on a mission to destroy me. I was flying bravely like a good warrior of god to save him. I ended up whacked so bad by my Shadow guide I went crazy, until I accepted that I am all I blamed him to be, and worse because of the shining new age hypocrite mask hiding the ugliness... What does this demon possessed artist reflect in you?

Becoming a reflection of other peoples shadow is confusing, especially when first starting to really realise it. Learning to deal with it is a growing process, and hanging around with people who are able to deal with their Shadow issues makes life nicer. Do you use the tornado to give you some space to breathe when outside of home? It's good and I think it's in K teacher.

TwinDragon

I am grateful you understand my issues, Mari :) Thank you!

I know it's important to be mindful of who I hang out with, and most of my issues now, has come after I spend some time with this guy. I sat next to him and saw these black odd energies coming towards him, and through empathy or something with him, I started attracting the same. I know I do have a black magician inside of me too, I just don't feel like channeling those energies, I much more prefer the Kundalini Shakti and staying inside of my bliss... And chaneling my own spirit.

I am working on my wings, and when I do, I see the shadow creatures being pushed out of my aura...^^,

I will work on the shadow reflections too... I'm usually using the tornado, but sometimes I forget :) Thanks!

Blossom


Blossom

Just doing a bit of re-reading of the k-teacher site myself. The projections page gives advice to empaths. http://kundalini-teacher.com/lessons/project.php

TwinDragon

Just to clarify, and try to get this out in words...

I have an issue, I really don't feel like I can control, it is that, when spirits get near the area of my root chakra, I sort of loose grounding with that entire chakra. Perhaps because of having been raped or something in the past, I don't really know, nor do I understand it. Something happens and I freeze and I don't know what's happening with my energy anymore. And suddenly I have entities entangled in my energy. Especially the area just below my feet etc, like I have problems with maintaining the bubble in that area of me. Usually when this happens my body goes on extreme defence, I scratch my nails and stuff that makes me seem lika an animal in defence of itself ;) , but sometimes I just get the freeze reaction which causes the entenglements. I can also feel and see my guardians instantly come around to protect the chakra area whenever there's a spirit or entitiy approaching, and they do it well, but it's the thing I do with the energy there, that actually causes the problems. So now I have to really work on getting them out again.

TwinDragon

And it's really a neat ability of mine, in that I can see spirits and stuff, it is so real to me, that I can actually sense their form and see them fully. (Only clear audio isn't always so good, I can see them moving their mouths etc but I usually can't hear what they're saying) They're not vague at all. (Goddess seem to have given me this as a gift) I just need to control my astral energies when dealing with them directly.

edward

You say that it's a neat ability you have, that makes you see astral entities. But it's probably an ability most people have - it's actually very normal after power chakra or third eye awakening. You seem to be very fascinated by this, even though it's  a pretty normal ability to have.

I remember a few years ago, after the entity lesson, I got into a teacher - student relationship with Carol Hathor. She was paranoid crazy, but still had effective ways of both communicating and booting off entities. It was fun for a while, because I learned a lot, but most of all - it fed my ego, as I felt very special because I could communicate and boot off other peoples entities. Your local saviour-ghostbuster.

It was not so fun anymore when I could see an entity sitting in my sofa beside me. And it was not so fun anymore to hear my own and other peoples entities talking inside my head.

What you focus on grows, and most of it is actually just ego noise.

I am not interested in these things anymore, as I think it's more important to learn to cope with the ordinary physical world.

You however, seem to be so fascinated about this - but it's probably just a phase. You will probably be in this phase until you realize that it does not benefit you. It's like hanging with the most alcoholized people in the worst pub in the city. Only problems, excuses, fear and what not.

When I stopped focusing on entities, they also became very much nonexistent after a while, except for the occasional entity chatter, that is to be booted, and  today I see these more as  fragments of my ego.


Edward




TwinDragon

"You however, seem to be so fascinated about this - but it's probably just a phase. You will probably be in this phase until you realize that it does not benefit you. It's like hanging with the most alcoholized people in the worst pub in the city. Only problems, excuses, fear and what not."

I went through this phase several years ago. So I thought I was over it, I seemed to attract this stuff after I got some folks thinking it was cool that I can see that stuff, but I thought it was not cool at all. It all feels more like having accepted projections, or my empathic sensitivity sometimes makes me confused as to what are my actual meanings about stuff. My intuition speaks in strange ways sometimes. I'm usually not bothered by entities, but somehow I suddenly attracted a whole lot of them.

I get to see faeries and nature spirits, and they are sweet, but I don't crave any of it and I don't enjoy the other stuff. Entities are just a distraction. I'm working on clearing whatever is in me that caused me to attract all this. I feel like, I haven't been myself lately. I need to get grounded in my priorities.

"I am not interested in these things anymore, as I think it's more important to learn to cope with the ordinary physical world"

I agree!

John Black

  hay sara,

           i have a friend that used to see alot of spirits and entities. it was really distracting for her. all she did was ask goddess to not be able to see them anymore. now she doesnt see things that she doesnt need to. you could try that if  the they are bothering you.


 

TwinDragon


Martin

Black,

Goddess begins a capital G.
It demonstrates mindfulness to write it as such.

Martin