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K and bi-polar

Started by Svarah, Aug 26, 2011, 09:52:04 AM

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Svarah

 :) Hi Mystress, Seth from Santa Cruz 8) we did a few phone sessions in..... 2003, been awhile.


What has brought me back to FST is I am committed to bringing K into balance. I have been given a medical diagnosis of "bi-polar 2" (less severe then old fashioned BP).

As far as I'm concerned, BP is mostly if not all about K flow inbalances.

So, I have begun the grounding practice and starting over with FST, and I currently am experiencing elevation to the point where it is disturbing my sleep.... primarily from letting my sexual energy get out of wack. :) :(


Any guidance would be appreciated and wondering if I should spend a little extra time focusing on the downward flow with the grounding.


nice to be back,


Seth

Mystress

  Seth! I remember you warmly. Welcome back.

    Kundalini can mimic bipolar disorder, in which case karma cleansing discipline can make an enormous difference.

   However... true bipolar is a genetic structure in the brain.  The spiritual techniques can help day to day to maintain balance but they are not crash proof.  All the spiritual knowledge in the world will be forgotten when trauma or crisis hits and the pattern rises up, and medication provides a safety net for those times to keep the imbalance from becoming destructive.

  Which one you have.. not my call. :)  if karma cleansing makes it all go away, then I guess you will know more.

   Blessings... 

Svarah

 :D

I was slightly manic when I wrote that post (on a scale of 10, maybe a 3.5), and was so excited about sharing I left out the full picture, I too believe actual BP is genetic and yes I am on meds, which are VERY helpful.

Ahhh mania in action....I was stoked to be back here.  :D


Generally I live in good balance, though lately I have been doing healing work which flares things up, and then I seem to integrate the high and am less susceptible to it afterwords.


We'll see.... an interesting journey to be sure.

John Black

hello seth,

   i have had really exrteme bi-polar all of my life.  i havent taken any meds in about 4 or 5 years and have felt so much better since i stopped taking them.  but lately i have been feeling really loopy ::)....i think its because i have been getting really grounded ( more so than ever) and it brings up alot of stuff really fast.
but getting grounded works wonders!!!  :)  and the tea room helps to, its a blessing to have a supportive community to really talk to and bring you back down to reality.


john :)

Svarah

Thanks for sharing your experience.

I have experienced no significant negative side effects from the medication... one day it is my goal to get off them, and I'm mostly unattached to that plan. They seem to be helping, and of course being aware of what mania is, and not letting myself go there when it peeks it's head...

I have started the grounding (I've toned it down a bit to be less... activating) and I believe it will/is changing my life.

One other thing I have noticed... K, BP and Vata imbalances (wind imbalance in Ayurveda) all can look and feel similar.

If you'd like to hear more about the Vata side of things, let me know.

peace,

Seth, E E

Mystress

Seth wrote and of course being aware of what mania is, and not letting myself go there when it peeks it's head...

  That is the big thing. To develop enough self awareness to notice when mania rears its head, is a step toward gaining some ability to not let it take you over completely. Being aware you are manic and being able to stop it, is something else but combined with medication it seems attainable.

  One of the shamans I am training is manic, and its a bad one, anger and paranoia and victimhood/aggression, emotions that can literally be lethal for a shaman. We (Shamans) are not allowed to go there so its been quite tense at times. Goddess and I tricked him into getting medicated around this time last year.

   Some months ago I trained him to do Tony Robbins swishes to clear a lot of anger triggers, did not tell him it might affect his manic self for several months, until he noticed that mania had changed, was becoming more moderate and limited.  Once there was evidence, it was easier to explain that mania is mania, a brain structure but not all manics are the same: the expression of it is karma noise and that aspect of it can be modified. He wept with joy, like he had been given a "get out of jail free" card for the most devastating aspects of this mental illness.

  I used Richard Branson of the Virgin records empire as an example. I have not read that he is manic but seen enough interviews. Look into his eyes you can see the manic high, motor running in there... but he has redirected it into abundant focus and energy for success. Shaman realized it was the same for him in younger days before he got more crazy, and could be again. Same for you I think Seth, what I know of your achievements. Meditate on how they were partly fueled by the positive side of mania and I think you will gain understanding of its purpose. 

  I directed his guide to give him something I implanted in myself years ago to moderate the effects of PTSD/ ADD sensitivity defiance disorder taking me over. Moved to share it here, very useful thing for some types of imbalance.

  Some years ago I wrote on here in tearoom of getting quite annoyed with feeling other folks karma all the time and even more pissed at myself for the victim feelings about it, which I loathe.  I put on an ugly mirror bubble set to 100%, and left it up for days. (Don't try this at home kids! Most people cannot handle wearing an ugly mirror bubble for more than a few hours before getting overly emotional and restless. The death gate inside a shaman is a kind of extremely vocal intense internal ugly mirror running 24/7 and the bubble mirror is mild by comparison.)

When the experiement ended I kept a small piece of the bubble, A mirror set a few inches in front of my power chakra so my reactions to being triggered were bounced back to the heart to be dissolved instead of heading out into the world to escalate the conflict. Typically the reaction would trigger more stuff and bounce back harder karma feedback to set me off even worse in a descending negative feedback loop. I am usually not much for people modding themselves with cyborg type magical implants but for cases of genetically based reactive disorders the power chakra mirror is quite miraculous. The trigger reaction gets nipped in the bud and transmuted to heart chakra insights. Peace and groundedness is retained, what a blessing!

John Black

hmm.

  i would like to here more seth.

i would also like to here more about this mirror bubble, it sounds like a good idea.

Svarah

As soon as I feel some mania/lots of K I do the earth mudra with both hands (thumb to ring finger).

Now I do the grounding exercise, and then I do some prannayama.

Alternate nostril breathing helps vata (wind) dosha, plus balances the left brain/right brain.

After that I do sheetali pranayama, which helps with pitta (fire) dosha and also, :) litterally chills out the mind (sheetali is called the cooling breath, it will actually lower the temp of your body a little.)

In Ayurveda, bi-polar is considered a vata, pitta, or vatta/pitta imbalance... pitta mania is more anger, energetic, firey, while vata mania is groundless, rapid mind, nervous.


Just a few ideas and practices to explore.


peace,


S, e.e.

Mystress

 

   I do not recommend any type of pranayama, seth. It is notorious for causing imbalance more than balance. If its working for you, ok.

  Try simply oberving the breath, watching your body breathe without trying to control it.
   Imagine your body filling with cool iceberg blue energy.

Svarah

Thank you Mystress, I am playing with that meditation.

And thank you for saying "I don't recommend," instead of "don't."

I have a lot of unresolved stuff with teachers taking advantage or demanding obedience and or me giving my power away  :-\, so being talked to as an equal by a Teacher is deeply healing.

MUCH appreciation

S, E.E.