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Anger

Started by Mari, Oct 16, 2008, 02:11:43 AM

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Mari

Dear Goddess,
I've been looking my anger and rage lately. My child's problems in the daycare and an raging alcoholic living in an apartment below us had triggered it again. My issue is now how to handle this situation with the man downstairs. His drunken raging and cursing is almost constant. There's a few days of relative peace, then it starts again. It's like he's with us in our home, we hear cursing clearly. When he rages in the nights, he comes to my dreams transformed into my raging father. He is an alcoholic, sick man. I actually feel compassion towards him, but then I fall into anger over and over again. I've tried a bit to calm the situation on the energy level but I'm struggling with what can I actually do? It's his home, his right to live his life as he wants. But on the other hand, I do have my right to defend my nest? His nest is terrorising our nest. My child has said that he's aware of the nightly screaming, and lately he has started to curse like him... After session with Mystress last week this has become more intense. I've been working with my own repressed anger and rage, and with the fact that he triggers my fathers rage in my unconscious. So he is my mirror, I accept that. I've been talking to others about what can this do to my sons unconscious, because during the days I can talk to him and put some music on etc, but in the nights it goes straight into his unconscious. Offcourse it's even more important that I clear these energies from myself to protect him, but still. Last night I deeply realised that what I talk about my son, has happened to me... I cried about me as a small girl, who had to live with a energetically and verbally violent father. Back then I also used to listen to music with headphones to escape. In a session Mystress showed my connection to Medea archetype, so I do have some surrendering to do. Now I have seen that my fear of moving forward in my path because something could happen to my son is not about some "testing" from gods. I'm afraid of my own rage, vengeance and insanity that lives in my unconscious, I'm afraid if I open these doors, I can't handle it and I do something horrible. This man downstairs is a blessing so I can release all this, but how long should I try to be patient? I have three options at least. I asked my Heart Voice. Staying here and leaving this as it is was not good. Moving away was kinda empty, I don't know. Making an official complain about this and organizing that this man has to move away actually felt like a right thing to do. He and his friends do affect to the whole apartment house. But I'm not sure is it right towards this sick man... I surely feel like a wicked bitchy witch if I kick him out. I could do it, I talked about this with a man who takes care of this house. He is aware of the problem, and encourages me to make it official. Symbolism is kinda cute though. A man downstairs.... Heh!
I give all this to You, Goddess! Please give me clear insights about what to do, and help me to safely release the anger, hatred, vengeance, insanity that lives in me.

juergen


I would say take the blessings of the ugly mirror that man provides, and kick his ass out(In this order).
Judging the man as sick is no compassion, it's his own free will to swear around and his behaviour is non-ethical(and this is no judgement but a fact).
But Your heartvoice has already told you anyway. Let the evil witch be ugly, ugly mirror goes for me in 2 directions:
1) denouncing the pampered ego crap as ugly.
2) re-evaluate the denied ugly denounced components, as light to integrate(growing wings).
Haha in a (well understood) way an evil witch can't be evil enough.

Juergen

Mari

Hi Juergen :)
I called him sick, because I've heard that alcoholism is a disease. But yeah, I don't deny what you're writing. For me it was more compassionate word than few others I also have in my mind...
I talked with my mom today. She is absolutely against going to war because of our safety. I agree, it's not nice if he's knocking at our door someday. She encourages me to move out because I have tried to cope and situation is not changing. Again I'm facing money issues. Lets see what happens.
Emotional releasing started right away, thank you all! I was in the shop trying not to cry so much until I was back in my car  :)

Mari

Compassion. Lets say that I try to be compassionate, but most of the time I'm not. Fake it until you make it?

juergen

Compassion I think it depends how you define it; for me it includes a feeling of resonance and closeness, and this may also vary with time and growth, so that a person low on the path like me may have less compassion than someone more advanced, but not quite sure.
So compassion would be less a matter of trial than of the actual state. Compare also Gustavs latest post.

What I wanted to say is, it's probably not wrong and in accordance with ethics to kick that man really hard, maybe even with compassion. ;D

I had a similar situation, but only two parties in one house(evidence against evidence). We involved the landlady, she her lawyer and lived through a tense situation for about 5 years, finally we moved out and shortly after that guy and his submissive woman was thrown out.

Your safety issues are seriously to be taken, especially since society has much of a heart for creepy behaviour, and there is still that motif of a cornered rat.

Hey, didn't You mention sort of kindergarden trouble -- Now im curious: not the Steiner kindergarden, wot?
Anyway it could indicate for the option of a move, i don't know. I'm shure You will be led to the right steps, good luck!

Juergen


Mari

Hey, didn't You mention sort of kindergarden trouble -- Now im curious: not the Steiner kindergarden, wot?
Ha ;D Well, there's nothing wrong at Steiners.. He doesn't fit nicely in the group, waiting in line and that kind of stuf. He also punches others when they don't obey. Teachers didn't say about it much, but I heard it elsewhere and wanted to have a meeting. They say it's quite okay, that he's so small and abilities to function in the group come a bit later. But I was extremely uppset with memories from my past, not fitting in, having troubles in groups. And ofcourse, being a bad mom.
I suppose it's getting better though. We've tried to be more strict with him, no sugar or preservatives (thanks Mystress), and teachers try to guide him a bit more. We also try to organize that he's there only half day, that seems to be a big thing.

juergen

The man downstairs is usually showing downwards, and when he's rarely showing heil hitler then mostly inopportunely; not the sting or sword intimidation wants you to make believe it to be.
Males simply don't have a sting it's all mimic theatre.
In one karate kid movie, the one where Hilary Swank plays the kid, that cute little Japanese man the Kungfu master says: "Fighting is no good, i hate fighting but when fighting then winning".
The indignated Medea is no winner, archetypes guide you for working on winning however.
Hey, You're no crappy male nor are Ya gonna fall once again in the Medea-indignation trap right?
Trust Your own empowerment and Your kid will be safe and blossom. He's a child and in good hands and karma can be released without any rage anger and panic.

I think there are different disturbances of peace(that neighbour). He may be a case for the public prosecutor as well as for psychiatry because of his filthy content so clearly audible in your flat and Your child's ears. In that case I think, You would not have to sue him, just give a hint to the police. (?)
Ahem, and thumbs up for Steiners.. ;)
Jue..

Mystress

  Hello Mari:

       Most alcoholics need some kind of hit-bottom tough-love wake-up call before they will seek help.  Alcoholism may be a genetic disease but it is a treatable one and the treatment is free, its called Alcoholics Anonymous all over the world. 

  Sometimes, helping someone closer to the bottom is dharma... do you understand the heart message now?

  As for Medea.. read the mythology. She kept putting her faith in the word of men who were only invested in thier self interest and being sooo surprised when they let her down.


I surely feel like a wicked bitchy witch if I kick him out

   I want you to remember, what Armand said to you.

It is ok to be momma bear when it comes to protecting your kid, ok?  That is your job, part of the deal in parenting.  You are not a child to cower in the corner and tell yourself comforting lies.
   The rage of the past passes, when you choose to put it behind you. Not to repress it, but to name the dragon is to get power over it.  So, is good to write to the tea room eh?

  We are born and die again in every moment, down to the smallest quantum particle. Give love to the child who once was, living on only in memory and know you are not her now.  You are woman grown, and a mother. Stand in your power and deal with what Is.

   Blessings... 

Mari

Mystress, you send your message when I tried to skip this whole process  ;D I went through few layers of fears, before I could act. Now he's been given official warning, I have called to police and social worker to get guidance and once I called police here in the night. I have collected names to our complaiment about him. Every move I made released huge energy rush, and eventually I had to cool down and look at it. Control over this situation and him felt intoxicating. I'm now somekind of hero among the grandmothers. It could be that he is not going anywhere, because he owns the apartment but at least my "thrill of the hunt" feeling has given me food of thought... And after I had done all this, he suddenly fell silent!! I dunno what has happened to him, I hope he is fine. But I enjoy the silence. Probably he heard about my mission and eventually got scared. Because this group complaiment is quite powerful. It would be nice if he could be at peace there because then we could all live here. But if he starts to rage again I make my move.

When Mystress was writing to me I woke up in the night and saw my anger as my loyal protector. Love and acceptance I felt towards it and myself was something! I don't feel pain when I'm angry. I didn't get much physical punishment as a child but one good example of rage as a protector was when my father once dragged me from the hair and tried to make me submissive about something (I had those attitude problems in my parents eyes pretty much). I got so furious that I didn't feel any pain or fear. Instead I'm screaming that he should try harder to brake me... After that I don't remember this kind of situations anymore. Maybe he realized it's useless? But anyway, I saw that releasing my anger would open me up so much that I do not know how to cope. I don't attract stalkers in the night, and if I do they're gone quite fast. It's handy. Is that gone too if that protecting mechanisms is released? Or maybe it stays there and comes up anyway from time to time?

My child has been easier. I'm happy about it! He has his temper but it's fine. He likes his daycare and sings those cool songs about faeries, harvest and so on  :)

Mystresses words about Medea were a lot better than what I've found in the net! I've been able to look at my too trusting attitude towards men in my life. One of the latest examples was my father talking how I could buy an old small house and he could renowate it for me. I remembered to release that whole issue in an instant, and not to fly into a fantasy world with my future house... He could do it, but history says he's more interested in his own life and money.

So again it's been actually exciting times!