I've been doing or trying to do the heart voice exercise for several weeks now and I am still finding it very difficult. Every time I focus on my heart I feel almost like pushed away either by getting very powerful kriyas or my mind racing faster than any other time. It feels almost as if there was a wall and the harder I try to push the harder it pushes back. Some of the time after quite a rigorous concentrating I manage to do the exercise but Iat those times I think I am hearing always the answer of my ego or my mind and not that of my heart voice...

Today gave up trying and just did it which made it easier but still can't really hear anything... Don't know what to do now. Any suggestions or help is greatly appreciated!

Namaste,
J

It's developing in me, slowly, too!

Before the heart voice comes the grounding(-lesson); now can you ground?

There are so many puzzle pieces and each depends on the rest.

I would say, if there comes a standstill with one piece, proceed to another(correction: *the* other, smile).


How we respond to each lesson may depend on how "preorganized" we already are, so that the actual puzzle piece can feel "home". How much prejudice and resistance we still have in our conditioning against happiness.(Women shameful of lust, and men inclining to think, that lust even doesn't concern us).

So it takes effort, but it's no use pushing. You can trust the heart voice that it's already there and guides you during *this effort*, and will give you lots aha's! Meanwhile you can content with a growing certainty that it's there and enjoy "the difference": When you realize that and how insights come without thought.

On further glances you can build on these efforts' fruits.

Some of us may have trained this(unconsciously?) already to greater extents, so that pieces fall quicker into place; but it can be fun either way; so as you are a guy: don't shun fun(and Gals: don't be ashamed or content with pseudo-fun ersatz)!

When we realize the difference between ego speaking, and the Divine(like you do), discernment must have started to work.

How Wisdom can work automate in artists is expressed in the citation part at the end of this and all my posts.

so march on   to masterly grounding yourself

anotherj

Hi Juergen!

Thanks for your reply. Yes, there is indeed beauty in letting things unfold which is so easy to forget. Everything is as it should be. Not necessarily as I would like them to be but nevertheless..  Sometimes the desire to unite with all gets so unbearable that it is not so easy to remember that things need their own time to develop...

Namaste,
J

Ps. The daily grounding routine does help. =)

    Juergen is right. Most often when people are having a hard time with the heart voice it is because of trying too hard, and expectations.  I think everybody already has a heart voice but it is such a small quiet seemingly insignificant thought-voice we tend to dismiss it, even when we can feel it is right.

  So approach it the other way. Think of a time when you had a thought, and you knew in your gut, even in your whole body that the thought was true.  Then think about the particular *voice* of the thought.  Probably it was a genderless, calm, insignificant little thought voice that said something which sorta rocked your world. 

  People expect the voice of God to be brass trumpets and thunder. Free Will is Goddess law and so the heart is nothing so frightening nor the least bit covercive.  Doesn't have to, truth in a quiet voice is power enough.

   Work on your discernment, the heart will come. In time you will notice the basic heart-gut sensations of discernment are accompanied with mental images, ideas, ... and words.
   Blessings.

Yes, there is indeed beauty in letting things unfold which is so easy to forget. Everything is as it should be.

Well ok;
but for my taste it's a tiny little bit too "eastern"; because, we do act and we do seek change, and we do struggle, how ever blissful and desire-ful that may be.

It's only about the fastest possible way, effectivity and intelligence(which is not the monkey mind).

Heehee, using the jack, because the car is too heavy...

Not anti-eastern, not anti-western, but again, i think, a middle path.
The heart before taxes, ermh, chatter, that is

/\~

Juergen

Expectations are tricky bastards... They lurk in the back of the mind and are difficult to get rid of. I notice this especially when doing some mental imagery practices where my logical mind wants to restrict those into lines and squares and so on... Things have to be logical, right? Wrong, but years of conditioning are undone quite slowly... 

Yes, agree with you Jurgen that there is a path between actice and passive. There was once a very difficult period of my life when I was unemployed, broke my knee and everything was quite bad... Meaning that everything that I was holding on to was nicely wiped away.   Finally, after months of uselessly trying to all the methods, things, practices and so on to get a job and heal myself I realised that I needed to let go of all of them and try to get the job and heal myself. At that point it was almost impossible but still I strived (well what else could I have done) so slowly all the things turned out beautiful... Still hard to do that with the heart voice even if it is the answer...

Well come to think of it I'll have to try also actively surrendering the expectations... Thank you!

Namaste,
J

Yes i think 'expectations' reads: "everything will be good" which reads: "We'll make a fine system where everything will be good"...

Ignorant that everything already IS good.

Then, although it is already good, we have certain needs, usually basic material needs, job, health, happiness .
Then again needs are ok as long as Goddess provides; it's only that She doesn't provide our expectations, human artefacts.

Self love!
Goddess provides for Herself; You are Goddess and You provide for Yourself. As You did in Your critical time! So you stopped being lost with expectations.

So that's the meaning of, Namaste!

As Goddess we are snowflakes in the winds of chaos.
Expectations however suggest, that the storm will cease soon

The meaning of the outer world is to check if everything is ok:
If there are ugly eruptions, volcanos, boils on the skin, dying galaxies...
as *should* be from Source - Fine!

Seeing Goddess in You,

Juergen