: Oh Jeez, now the Shadow side gets into it, just to make me eat my words. Check out the bad boy vampire pic on the right.... it slammed me and made me catch my breath! http://www.paulgross.org/indexhigh.htm" target="new_window">way too pretty

Yummie. Very nice.

He looks like a young version of the Canadian actor Victor Garber. Also a very gentleman-like actor.

:   Was it dubbed or subtitled?  I have to wonder how some of the jokes would translate... I mean, a wolf named Diefenbaker isn't funny unless you know what Prime Minister Deifenbaker was like... ?

I didn%rsquot know that Deifenbaker is also a Prime Minister. I thought it was a strange name.

I thank Goddess that they don%rsquot dub foreign programmes in Norway. Luckily they use subtitles in all of the Nordic countries. In rest of Europe they dub. It sounds silly.

I remember my German cousin who thought all foreign movies was recorded twice. First in the original language, and then in German%hellip

: The series and the article have this in common, they inspire me.  For years I have banged my head against a wall, trying to explain to people, why personal integrity is its own reward.  In my experience, getting past scarcity consciousness cannot be taught, it is experiential and so much a result of personal choices that karma is made of.  

It is only now that I have really begun to understand that it is me that has to look at my behaviour. I%rsquom the Wizard of my reality.

I notice immediate effect when I behave or think in a non-constructive way. And vice versa.

It%rsquos time for me to be the love that I%rsquove been given and experience every day.

Yes, life indeed has become very beautiful.

: Just keep blowing it off, with grounding, until the light starts leaking in visions of a more beautiful world.

To celebrate life I will make a delicious cheese cake this evening. You%rsquore all invited!

Edward

I am sure the pattern you describe exists, but I doubt that it is normal in cases of bullying. Finding out why you are responsible? I seriously doubt that is normally a problem for a bullied person. A bullied person does not spontaneously feel like a victim of others outrage. Instead a bullied person spontaneously feels responsible and takes on blame. A bullied person has no problem to admit to him self that he is wrong. On the contrary, he feels he is wrong all the time. A bullied person does not stand up for himself and is normally not perceived as aggressive. Bullying is taboo. The common reaction among targets is to deny the bullying %ndash literally block it from their mind %ndash and take on personal responsibility even for severe outrages until it is too late to do anything about it. There is no limit to the ways in which a bullied person can explain how he caused the whole problem. More of this would not be therapy. It is also obvious, that when you take on blame, what you subconsciously communicate to others is; I am responsible %ndash kick me. Here is your kick-me sign. That %ndash and not the projection that a bullied person perceives himself as a victim %ndash is the core of the problem. The insight that you are not the bully is a vital and difficult step in therapy. A therapist who does not understand this runs a serious risk of causing more harm to the patient; at least if you can trust frequent reports at the bullying messages boards. It is not the behavior that creates the pattern; it is karma that creates a behavior which is not aggressive but forms a pattern of accumulating blame and guilt. Successful therapy involves the release of the karmic junk, which is what you might call a %ldquoguilt syndrome%rdquo. There is seldom a need for guilt, as other people normally benefit from bullying. The question that is to be asked is not %ldquoHow did I cause this?%rdquo but %ldquoWhy do I feel guilty?%rdquo I have been practicing the therapy Mystress recommended, asking Goddess for forgiveness for my contribution to the bullying each day for a month. The result has not been more upcoming feelings of guilt, but rather less, so I suppose it works.

: Playing the role of victim always creates more of the same.  Quite some time back I was heavily in that role and a couple people who knew what they were talking about (including Mystress) told me that "you are not the victim."  I didn't understand how that could be true, but I did a productive thing, which was to ask myself the question over and over, 'how could it be true that I'm not the victim?' and i stayed open to the answer.  It came with great wisdom.

: One thing that can really help is to find out how we create these patterns in our lives.  Once you learn how to watch yourself in your bahavior, and to understand how it creates patterns, the watching itself causes the patterns to dissolve.  

: So start watching yourself with great curiosity.

: The other thing I recommend is to read a few books on the subject of Transpersonal Analysis.
: 1.  Games People Play  by Eric Berne
: 2.  Scripts People Live by Claude Steiner

: There are others but these are a great start.

: It's hard to admit that we can be wrong.  We want to be right.  We want desperately to be loved, and to be considered worthy.  When we don't feel that way we become defensive and display behavior that (to us) seems like we're standing up for ourselves...but to others comes across as angry and defensive.  Being willing to see ourselves the way other people see us is a powerful step to creating joy in life.  Take full responsibility.  

: This is nothing new...it's what Mystress says over and over and over.  But sometimes it helps to come from another, or in different words.

: Vyana, you are NOT the victim.  Be kind and patient with yourself and ask yourself the question, "How can it be true?"  and keep looking for answers.  Love yourself no matter what.  Ask yourself "How can I find people out there who treat me respectfully and who appreciate me?" and watch what happens.  Drop the "there are bad people everywhere" approach - you will ALWAYS find exactly what you are looking for.  

: Ask yourself, "How can I love myself just the way I am, and attract other people who love me the way I am too?"

: Relax.  Look for the beauty in life.  It's everywhere.  But you will not find it until you learn to love yourself.

: Blessings
: Eileen

sounds like crazytalk!

: %hellip interesting, interesting, so many opinions and different views on things %ndash it seems that looking at topics like manners, social behaviour etc. reveals how much our individual backgrounds differ from each other. Obvious, because we come from different parts of the world, from different educations, out of different social communities, with different cultural heritages.

: Fascinating how we, despite thoroughly differing views on some things, nevertheless stand on a high common ground, all of us being ignited by the same spark, fueled by the same (K-)power, heading for the same light. We are so different and still we are all one, connected to each other through intangible channels of energy and %hellip well, by this akashic manifestation called the internet %hellip

: the internet, which was originally designed for military purposes (indeed, there is a constant war going on in the world, people can be very bad, and ok, that may sometimes even be good, and yes, a good fight can be healthy and in the end for the good of all), but meanwhile the internet has gained a spiritual energy that has grown far beyond the limited horizons of military thinking, it has brought a better mutual understanding to the world, bridging social and cultural gaps, and also enabling us, here and now, to exchange views and opinions, in peace, and, when all is said and done, seeing ourselves when looking at each other %hellip
: (am I being too ardent? Sorry, got carried away)
: I like that

: sounds like crazytalk!

yea, I guess your right ...
*sigh*

I'm just joking, johannes. It was nice to see your post as a counterweight to some of the negativity in the thread.

: : sounds like crazytalk!

: yea, I guess your right ...
: *sigh*

The negativity projected on me in this thread strikes me as somewhat odd. This spring semester I have been through some major changes. In January I started some intense practices of sat kriya, which is basically kegels, and a meditation which is among other things preventing the practitioner from being attracted by negative meetings. It so to say dissolves bullying experiences. Then I started to feel depressed, which lasted for several weeks. In medium February I participated in an event of White Tantric Yoga, which started a very strong cleansing process. Since then a lot of things have happened. I still felt depressed and kind of tortured by upcoming karma, even though my therapist told me that at a deeper level I felt very satisfied with the present state of things. The last weeks this intense joy and bliss has started to surface in my everyday experiences in a way I have not experienced in many years. This is wonderful but difficult to describe. I have been through periods of joy and bliss before, during the last few years, but then I have most often also felt partly euthanized. This time it feels more spontaneous and genuine, as if it does not come from inside only but is established also on the superficial levels. As I said: wonderful but difficult to describe.

When I wrote my first comment on the article Mystress recommended I felt I felt really good and very far from negative. The only negativity I experienced was maybe a slight irritation over the fact that the article did not add any useful information to what I already knew and the fact that I was in an extreme hurry. I wrote my answer in a few minutes. It was very short, but the wording was correct, I think, and the used words adequate except for the phrase %ldquowith wings%rdquo, which I added as a small joke as I had some problems choosing the exact wording (what I wanted to say was: %ldquowith the ability to accept and appreciate other people for what they are%rdquo). I this post radiate some negativity; there is not much I can do about it. I have never felt more joyful and blissful and less negative than when I wrote it. My only intention was to initiate a discussion on how the insights in the article could be put into practical use, which I think needs some consideration of other aspects which are much about what Mystress express as %ldquotying up you camel%rdquo. For example, when it comes to bullying, science has shown that targets of bullying are generally more polite and respectful to others than are people in general. Still they are targeted, and basically they are targeted for being successful at work or popular with people.

It also strikes me that there is a difference between the traditional Swedish, or basically German, way of using the words, giving them a precise meaning and then sticking to and respecting that meaning, and the Anglo-American way of projecting your own interpretations to words that actually means something else. No negativity is expressed in the wording of my short comments. Still some people interpret it as if the wording was very different from what it actually is.

In science there is also (at least in my area) a difference between the German approach and the Anglo-American approach. German scientists often prefer to base their reasoning on results reached by others before and accepted by them as valid, while Anglo-American scientist more often prefer to start from basic and kind of re-invent the veil over and over again. In Sweden we have in latter years had a change from the traditional German way of doing things to the Anglo-American way.

Dear Vyana,

while You're speaking of negativity, i really don't know what You mean, at least in this thread i find great relaxedness.

It might be helpful, to answer the question of who we are, and my interpretation comes near or identical what i find in the FST: that finally we are ALL One; so, giving us each other a little kick, is simultaneously accompanied by Buddha-Laughter-Smiles-Giggles.

Any asshole-ship in the world is reflecting on each of us, and no one can say it more clearly than Mystress did, when She states as a Woman, having been raped and some, has been provoked by Herself !(Without the normal meaning of provocation, of course).

I don't think that we're talking here either the Anglo-American nor the German dialect of scientific speech.

You could also understand it as hereditary sin, which is used by Christians and is commonly so little understood(by them).

By hereditary sin we are all assholes or we are all no assholes, once more polarities falling together.

What is left to do is making steps toward each other, not only toward like people; and we'll need  a lot of creativity to do so; but i can see no alternative.

The necessary consciousness of this will be found in the heart chakra, i think. Providing us unconditional love for the assholes( as far as unconditional love can go, that is ).

(BTW: The heart chakra is also the seat of back complaints in that region.)
Funny remark: during the recent posts, especially this threat, i found a strikingly similar personality in yourself and Mystress, just "by the guts".

"Only", that Mystress is miles ahead

smiles,

juergen.

: The negativity projected on me in this thread strikes me as somewhat odd. This spring semester I have been through some major changes. In January I started some intense practices of sat kriya, which is basically kegels, and a meditation which is among other things preventing the practitioner from being attracted by negative meetings. It so to say dissolves bullying experiences. Then I started to feel depressed, which lasted for several weeks. In medium February I participated in an event of White Tantric Yoga, which started a very strong cleansing process. Since then a lot of things have happened. I still felt depressed and kind of tortured by upcoming karma, even though my therapist told me that at a deeper level I felt very satisfied with the present state of things. The last weeks this intense joy and bliss has started to surface in my everyday experiences in a way I have not experienced in many years. This is wonderful but difficult to describe. I have been through periods of joy and bliss before, during the last few years, but then I have most often also felt partly euthanized. This time it feels more spontaneous and genuine, as if it does not come from inside only but is established also on the superficial levels. As I said: wonderful but difficult to describe.

: When I wrote my first comment on the article Mystress recommended I felt I felt really good and very far from negative. The only negativity I experienced was maybe a slight irritation over the fact that the article did not add any useful information to what I already knew and the fact that I was in an extreme hurry. I wrote my answer in a few minutes. It was very short, but the wording was correct, I think, and the used words adequate except for the phrase %ldquowith wings%rdquo, which I added as a small joke as I had some problems choosing the exact wording (what I wanted to say was: %ldquowith the ability to accept and appreciate other people for what they are%rdquo). I this post radiate some negativity; there is not much I can do about it. I have never felt more joyful and blissful and less negative than when I wrote it. My only intention was to initiate a discussion on how the insights in the article could be put into practical use, which I think needs some consideration of other aspects which are much about what Mystress express as %ldquotying up you camel%rdquo. For example, when it comes to bullying, science has shown that targets of bullying are generally more polite and respectful to others than are people in general. Still they are targeted, and basically they are targeted for being successful at work or popular with people.

: It also strikes me that there is a difference between the traditional Swedish, or basically German, way of using the words, giving them a precise meaning and then sticking to and respecting that meaning, and the Anglo-American way of projecting your own interpretations to words that actually means something else. No negativity is expressed in the wording of my short comments. Still some people interpret it as if the wording was very different from what it actually is.

: In science there is also (at least in my area) a difference between the German approach and the Anglo-American approach. German scientists often prefer to base their reasoning on results reached by others before and accepted by them as valid, while Anglo-American scientist more often prefer to start from basic and kind of re-invent the veil over and over again. In Sweden we have in latter years had a change from the traditional German way of doing things to the Anglo-American way.