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Started by LittleCloud, Apr 07, 2007, 01:54:41 AM

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LittleCloud

ack! for some reason the goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco, I wonder why? It is rather pleasant in some regards, although they talk of health hazards. Any thoughts on this?




juergen

If you can experiment without getting attached, this might be a great and joyous thing; could also become a test of willpower.
I have been taught by experience to better stop it totally.
So i guess it depends.
Mystress seems to smoke occasionally, on one of Her photos, she held s.th. smouldering in Her hand... but not on all photos :)

juergen.


: ack! for some reason the goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco, I wonder why? It is rather pleasant in some regards, although they talk of health hazards. Any thoughts on this?






Mystress

: ack! for some reason the goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco, I wonder why? It is rather pleasant in some regards, although they talk of health hazards. Any thoughts on this?


Tobacco has a few medicinal effects, including stimulating bowel movements, and nicotine is an insecticide. It was sacred to the Natives of north and south america. It has a specific effect on some neuroreceptors, serotonin levels? Not certain of the medical language. The Amazon word for Shaman means "tobacco user" which is my favourite excuse... :)

 It has spiritual uses.. it is also more addictive than heroin and I assume you've heard the health warnings.

 This weekend one of my cousins asked how much I smoke. druid guessed 10 per day, but a pack I had bought two days before (25) was still half full. So, perhaps six.

 I was travelling, usually I roll my own and smoke one 200g can of the lightest canadian tobacoo per month, a little less, if you deduct for spillage and butts. Housekeepers and others have been surprised to discover I smoke because the smell doesn't linger... unlike nasty american tobacco.

 I use a long bamboo holder, which cools the smoke and precipitates most of the tar. I make the holders, myself. I tend to sort of sip the smoke, gently drawing a mouthful of smoke to taste it, then letting it drift into my lungs with my next breath of air... instead of inhaling it directly... which cools it further, and means I am swallowing it as saliva (and mixed with amitra) and absorbing it through mucous membranes as much as inhaling it.

 The correct way to smoke a cigar, is to not inhale at all, only taste the smoke. Inhaling will make you barf.

 So, though my usage is very small... I still carry nicotine gum on long plane trips.  As I said to my critical Dad (who is very allergic) very powerful witch dominant sadist in a raving nic fit is someone you don't want to meet unless you are prone to suicidal tendencies... :) If Goddess wants me to quit, it will happen, in the meantime I don't worry about it.

 I prefer not to be photographed smoking, because some people are stupid enough for "monkey see, monkey do." People who are dumb enough to start smoking just because I am addicted should not be my students...  

 If you choose to experiment for sacred purposes, treat it as such. Get some organic, untreated tobacco that is not pre-rolled, or even pre-cut, so that indulgence is a inconvenient ritual, of cutting and rolling, or filling a long stemmed pipe... not something to buy at the corner store to suck on, waiting for a bus.

 I'm not recommending you start smoking, though... just to be clear.




LittleCloud

Well I must say that in the short time ive used it it has worked wonders for me. I hesitate to say in what regard, as others might get the wrong idea. I see what you mean by not getting attached as it has addictive properties and other health hazards.   I treat the leaf with respect and thank the goddess for its healing. i was a little too eager in my experimentation lately though and will be taking a break from smoking for a little while. I still have to perfect the technique of cooling the smoke through a better, longer pipe and holding it in my mouth longer, like others have suggested. i ordered some raw, uncut organic tobacco recently, but its pretty harsh. lol i dont intend to be a daily smoker, for the sake of my health at least.    

: If you can experiment without getting attached, this might be a great and joyous thing; could also become a test of willpower.
: I have been taught by experience to better stop it totally.
: So i guess it depends.
: Mystress seems to smoke occasionally, on one of Her photos, she held s.th. smouldering in Her hand... but not on all photos :)

: juergen.


:
: : ack! for some reason the goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco, I wonder why? It is rather pleasant in some regards, although they talk of health hazards. Any thoughts on this?






juergen

So much laughers here on Your side, Mystress, cute !

One attribute of tobacco is certainly the smoke :)

Then, smoke has certainly a calming effect.
I experienced this once on a sort of a beekeeper's visit: we had visit of a family with 2 daughters of maybe 8 and 10 then, and were strolling thru the forest, me mostly proud with my "adopted nieces"; when we saw a beekeeper with an assembly of hives midst in the woods, and of course there was no holding for the girls, so i had nothing left, but to follow them; that man had a somewhat charismatic appearance very calm very friendly; and he offered us each a taste of the honey, under the pretext of being very calm however. This was a very solemn adventure for me, we made some conversation with the man in quiete voice, among the humming of the bees, and were just on departure from this place, when young V. was "seized" by one of her attacks of greed and headed back for another sample of honey; the friendly man uncovered again that vessel with honey, but with greed came haste, she caused a trouble and suddenly the bees were upset, and there were suddenly a lot of them :) The beekeeper signified us once more to keep calm, which had also been fairly accomplished. Calmly he sprayed cloudbursts of smoke in the air, which didn't fail its effect, so finally he signaled us to slowly leave, so we escaped this adventure without too much blessures only a few beestings.
This little event however taught me about the calming nature of smoke, am not shure what he used, maybe incense?
However, calming is also one of tobacco's  infamous effects, that's why the suspicious are so generously offered a cigarette during interrogation, i think. Lulling, soothing, plyable rendering effect.
Smoke is in german "Qualm", and i think it is the same word as "calm".

And Yes!
Students need not do everything that Teacher does,  as the ox ain't entitled to everything that is Goddess' business.
A smoking Teacher can certainly help Her students feel more relaxed so; as the catholic priest is using incense. There also exists a Smoking - Femdom - Fetisch.

Your smoking habits are certainly unique; as remarkable as exhilarating, shurely indicating of the artist, who You are. :))

There are few people who can hold to an addictive level of about 6 cigarettes per day, i think most wind up with a consume of how much they can possibly "take", without dying instantly :)
So it would be no easy ride try to imitate Mystress..

Yes, and i can imagine that 'monkey see, monkey do'-students can be a drag, even a Teacher can wish something other than always see Herself recycled, instead get some news from Her students, maybe some inspiration.

Frank Zappa alluded to this in a song, stating that he was vampirizing his band-members' creativity; but being creative himself though!
AS his band's name is suggesting: An all male band at the dawn of Wlib, named: "Mother's of Invention",! L O L
Also a passionate smoker, Winston - belch,vomit,3crosses, 3packs a day i was told ! He made it 'til about 50 with this, what a strong and healthy bodily condition he must have had.

Tobacco is also used in a medical way, although i only know of one indication from my own experience: as an agent to get rid of tobacco addiction. Taking 2ice for 14 days Tabacum C200, (or 200 C, as Americans call it), can be of a lot of help.

so long,

juergen.

: : ack! for some reason the goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco, I wonder why? It is rather pleasant in some regards, although they talk of health hazards. Any thoughts on this?

:
:   Tobacco has a few medicinal effects, including stimulating bowel movements, and nicotine is an insecticide. It was sacred to the Natives of north and south america. It has a specific effect on some neuroreceptors, serotonin levels? Not certain of the medical language. The Amazon word for Shaman means "tobacco user" which is my favourite excuse... :)

:   It has spiritual uses.. it is also more addictive than heroin and I assume you've heard the health warnings.

:   This weekend one of my cousins asked how much I smoke. druid guessed 10 per day, but a pack I had bought two days before (25) was still half full. So, perhaps six.

:   I was travelling, usually I roll my own and smoke one 200g can of the lightest canadian tobacoo per month, a little less, if you deduct for spillage and butts. Housekeepers and others have been surprised to discover I smoke because the smell doesn't linger... unlike nasty american tobacco.

:   I use a long bamboo holder, which cools the smoke and precipitates most of the tar. I make the holders, myself. I tend to sort of sip the smoke, gently drawing a mouthful of smoke to taste it, then letting it drift into my lungs with my next breath of air... instead of inhaling it directly... which cools it further, and means I am swallowing it as saliva (and mixed with amitra) and absorbing it through mucous membranes as much as inhaling it.

:   The correct way to smoke a cigar, is to not inhale at all, only taste the smoke. Inhaling will make you barf.

:   So, though my usage is very small... I still carry nicotine gum on long plane trips.  As I said to my critical Dad (who is very allergic) very powerful witch dominant sadist in a raving nic fit is someone you don't want to meet unless you are prone to suicidal tendencies... :) If Goddess wants me to quit, it will happen, in the meantime I don't worry about it.

:   I prefer not to be photographed smoking, because some people are stupid enough for "monkey see, monkey do." People who are dumb enough to start smoking just because I am addicted should not be my students...  

:   If you choose to experiment for sacred purposes, treat it as such. Get some organic, untreated tobacco that is not pre-rolled, or even pre-cut, so that indulgence is a inconvenient ritual, of cutting and rolling, or filling a long stemmed pipe... not something to buy at the corner store to suck on, waiting for a bus.

:   I'm not recommending you start smoking, though... just to be clear.  






juergen

It seems you guys are making me lol incessantly with this tobacco theme ( first Mystress, now you ) :)

Imagine this to be said by a real addictive, it would be the most creative of excuse ever established:

"Goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco".
Imagine this from the mouth of an ordinary addictive, can you see the comic element ? ;.)

but now seriously(since You are serious about it too):

You say:

o- it has worked wonders for you

o- ..thank the Goddess for its healing.

Well, certainly tobacco is a potential healing agent like anything in nature is: truly healing, when administered for the right indication.

Which must have been the case for you, since you are so clearly referring it.

Now, for those who know me a little closer, when i speak of healing, i speak of homeopathy, when i turn to spiritual healing, this has also pass a sort of a 'homeopathic' test:

Because, next and in contradiction to homeopathy is allopathy or antipathy, which is palliative, but never healing; now in spiritual healing they seem both mixed, the wheat among the chaff.

And: while the allopathic/antipathic thing is in no way curative , it can though be fun, and i do not want to be the anti-fun scarecrow here.

But when it comes to healing, it has proven much better, to use the dynamised preparations from Homeopathy; of all kind of substances, for example   also tobacco herbs.
You can buy them as globuli (Tabacum C200, or 200C like Americans prefer to denote it), or prepare them Yourself, according Hahnemanns instructions, there are also improved newer methods)

Next comes a very honorable thing( always honorable to choose the wrong remedy, smiles ), the so called 'proving', which means to make yourself a guinea pip and test the scope of a remedy, or have the experience of that herb, although it isn't really indicated for cure.
Like American Indians, and all Primitive Peoples.

This proving is a learning by experience, leading into the most authentic knowledge.

Homeopaths are doing this to know their medicines, and "only" need to compare illness with provings and select the most similar stuff.

Or you just focus on experiencing reality, get insights into this world.

I think in primitive cultures there has always been a connection of experience and healing art, so they have/had much less health problems than "civilisation" has.

Here we come to the last application modus, which is: use all these same herbs in an antipathic way, i.e. non-similar, let's take an example from tobacco:

o- digestion; we know the pure effect of tobacco is, delivering a nice diarrhoe, we all know that joke-kind of advice to the youth on his first smoking: to lace up his trousers at the ankles... :)
An application of tobacco would be a homeo-one in the case of diarrhoe(similarity), an antipathic one in the case of constipation: the constipated tobbaco-user will get more constipated over time than ever and depend on tobacco more and more, this can also be seen an aspect of addiction; usually to be observed in school medications as long as they are not too harmful in their side effects so addiction would be counteracted by damage.

o- another example from cannabis, a hallucinogene: a dumb un-imaginative person might find pleasure in the widened horizon of experience furnished by the drug, but in this case dependency would also be established, i think again you can find the antipathic(non-similar) pattern here, between the patient and the drug; so it would be much less likely that an imaginative person, say an artist would be much damaged from cannabis(or other hallu's, it could even turn out healthily, since even an active brain can be way too active.

Here is to mention that a lack of insight is shown, when civilisation is banning such health-bringing drugs quite rigorously;

A funny exception exists here in the dynamisations of homeopathy:
on the one side nothing of a material character exists in them, so all theses preparations are widely declared medically ineffective, thus harmless; on the other hand, the name printed on the package reads still: Cannabis indica, Opium, etc; as a consequence, even in dynamisations, these certain drugs are kept from the public, (only to be obtained be physicians) while the lions part is publically available(here in Germany).

Still these preparations are all very powerful: yesterday i took a Luesinum C40(worst veneric disease ~ Syphilis) :)

for 3 hours i was not able to move more than 10 steps and each step became heavier, for this time, i would on no conditions leave the house; the most i could accomplish was to watch MTV :)

That said, would you consider to reveal some of the wonders that tobacco has worked for you? You know how curious we guys are!
Now that i've given a prescription to deal with possibly ensuing addictions.. :)

nice tinkerings !

juergen.

: Well I must say that in the short time ive used it it has worked wonders for me. I hesitate to say in what regard, as others might get the wrong idea. I see what you mean by not getting attached as it has addictive properties and other health hazards.   I treat the leaf with respect and thank the goddess for its healing. i was a little too eager in my experimentation lately though and will be taking a break from smoking for a little while. I still have to perfect the technique of cooling the smoke through a better, longer pipe and holding it in my mouth longer, like others have suggested. i ordered some raw, uncut organic tobacco recently, but its pretty harsh. lol i dont intend to be a daily smoker, for the sake of my health at least.    

: : If you can experiment without getting attached, this might be a great and joyous thing; could also become a test of willpower.
: : I have been taught by experience to better stop it totally.
: : So i guess it depends.
: : Mystress seems to smoke occasionally, on one of Her photos, she held s.th. smouldering in Her hand... but not on all photos :)

: : juergen.

:
: :
: : : ack! for some reason the goddess has prompted me to experiment with various kinds of tobacco, I wonder why? It is rather pleasant in some regards, although they talk of health hazards. Any thoughts on this?






Vyana

For some reason, I just can%rsquot stand tobacco smoke. It seems to go on my mucous membranes. My eyes start to ace and water. My stomach is turned upside down. Maybe it has something to do with the fact there was a lot of tobacco smoke in my home when I was a kid. But boy was I glad when smoking was recently forbidden in restaurants in my country!





LittleCloud

Yes, although I do not have a reaction to tobacco as you, it will irritate my mucous membranes and throat if taken to excess. I smoke outside my home because the smoke will permeate everything it comes in contact with, like the furniture and even going into clothes and hair! Yes even where I live although smoking is widespread by common folk, the  restaurants and other establishments are phasing it out. I think this is good as tobacco has been abused, like many other medicines.

: For some reason, I just can%rsquot stand tobacco smoke. It seems to go on my mucous membranes. My eyes start to ace and water. My stomach is turned upside down. Maybe it has something to do with the fact there was a lot of tobacco smoke in my home when I was a kid. But boy was I glad when smoking was recently forbidden in restaurants in my country!






juergen

hmmm;

when it bugs you it is yours...
You can read it the one way or the other, the other says:

these annoyances can give You a clue to what is wrong with youuu. Because your strong reaction is somewhat over normal; our world growingly becoming sterile, dirtless has its catches.

there are new theraphies which insert some filth into the patient(for allergic conditions).

Best is homeopathy; your mucous membranes could help give a good indication for "Your" remedy.

juergen.


: For some reason, I just can%rsquot stand tobacco smoke. It seems to go on my mucous membranes. My eyes start to ace and water. My stomach is turned upside down. Maybe it has something to do with the fact there was a lot of tobacco smoke in my home when I was a kid. But boy was I glad when smoking was recently forbidden in restaurants in my country!






Vyana

You are right. I also think there is a connection between my easily irritated stomach and my sensibility for smoke. Once several years a doctor told me I had sensible mucous membranes. I immediately sensed that was true. She made some tests, but than gave up this theory. My sensibility might have something to do with my kundalini process too. My doctor says my health is exceptionally good. My physical age is about half of my chronological age. My blood is exceptionally free from antioxidants and most forms of poison. I have always been sensible to different forms of poisons, I think. I can%rsquot even drink coffee or tea. The kundalini process is a cleansing process. I don%rsquot know when my kundalini was awakened. I noticed it first when I was 12, after I had got sexually mature. But it might have been active even before that. I believe a sensibility also follows from the process. As you suggested; when we get clean we get sensible to poison. It%rsquos also about body navigation system, I think. I am not even sure there is really something wrong with me when it comes to smoke. If other people did not use that kind of poison I wouldn%rsquot have a problem with it. On the other hand, I believe my stomach is somewhat more sensible than it should be (although most of my stomach problems have turned out to be related to my back rather than my stomach). Then there is of course also what might be left of the uranium poisoning. I will discuss my sensible mucous membranes with my doctor anyway. He is using homeopathy and might have some ideas about how to treat any hyper sensibility.

: hmmm;

: when it bugs you it is yours...
: You can read it the one way or the other, the other says:

: these annoyances can give You a clue to what is wrong with youuu. Because your strong reaction is somewhat over normal; our world growingly becoming sterile, dirtless has its catches.

: there are new theraphies which insert some filth into the patient(for allergic conditions).

: Best is homeopathy; your mucous membranes could help give a good indication for "Your" remedy.

: juergen.

:
: : For some reason, I just can%rsquot stand tobacco smoke. It seems to go on my mucous membranes. My eyes start to ace and water. My stomach is turned upside down. Maybe it has something to do with the fact there was a lot of tobacco smoke in my home when I was a kid. But boy was I glad when smoking was recently forbidden in restaurants in my country!






juergen

Vyana,

before i go into details with your interesting thoughts and try find some interesting answers :)

... there is one important thing:

You say Your Doc uses Homeopathy; sounds a bit 'so so la la'.

She can do a great job with Homeopathy, i only want to assure:

IS She doing Hom. as the main focus ? If not, this can be tedious...

E.G.: my Ex is a dedicated Hom. for about 15 Years, does it 99%, but had difficult cases with some patients, with me and Herself, nonetheless. "hopeless" cases.

Since some months She is coworking with a Witch who has learned Hom. since She became a patient with another homeopath, and added Her special insights to it :))))

Now this Woman is treating wife's difficult cases, wife Herself, and me, with all signs of improvement; She does this with a sleepwalker's security.

So much about trap and gospel of Homeopathy.

With sensitive mucous membranes, i think there is still some amelioration-potential; better than dull mucous membranes, but still not ideal, i think ;-)

ciao,

juergen.


: You are right. I also think there is a connection between my easily irritated stomach and my sensibility for smoke. Once several years a doctor told me I had sensible mucous membranes. I immediately sensed that was true. She made some tests, but than gave up this theory. My sensibility might have something to do with my kundalini process too. My doctor says my health is exceptionally good. My physical age is about half of my chronological age. My blood is exceptionally free from antioxidants and most forms of poison. I have always been sensible to different forms of poisons, I think. I can%rsquot even drink coffee or tea. The kundalini process is a cleansing process. I don%rsquot know when my kundalini was awakened. I noticed it first when I was 12, after I had got sexually mature. But it might have been active even before that. I believe a sensibility also follows from the process. As you suggested; when we get clean we get sensible to poison. It%rsquos also about body navigation system, I think. I am not even sure there is really something wrong with me when it comes to smoke. If other people did not use that kind of poison I wouldn%rsquot have a problem with it. On the other hand, I believe my stomach is somewhat more sensible than it should be (although most of my stomach problems have turned out to be related to my back rather than my stomach). Then there is of course also what might be left of the uranium poisoning. I will discuss my sensible mucous membranes with my doctor anyway. He is using homeopathy and might have some ideas about how to treat any hyper sensibility.

: : hmmm;

: : when it bugs you it is yours...
: : You can read it the one way or the other, the other says:

: : these annoyances can give You a clue to what is wrong with youuu. Because your strong reaction is somewhat over normal; our world growingly becoming sterile, dirtless has its catches.

: : there are new theraphies which insert some filth into the patient(for allergic conditions).

: : Best is homeopathy; your mucous membranes could help give a good indication for "Your" remedy.

: : juergen.

: :
: : : For some reason, I just can%rsquot stand tobacco smoke. It seems to go on my mucous membranes. My eyes start to ace and water. My stomach is turned upside down. Maybe it has something to do with the fact there was a lot of tobacco smoke in my home when I was a kid. But boy was I glad when smoking was recently forbidden in restaurants in my country!






Vyana

Actually, he is a nature-healer. He has a natural talent for healing and is working with many different kinds of medical methods. For instance, he is an experienced practitioner of material arts and senses distortions in my energy field. He is also using traditional medicine and mineral therapy based on scientific tests. He has a very good reputation and is even teaching medical students at our university (which is an old and prestigious one). I trust him a lot and I am rather sure he knows what he is doing. This far he has only prescribed two homeopathic medicines, which I only had to take for a short while.

: Vyana,

: before i go into details with your interesting thoughts and try find some interesting answers :)

: ... there is one important thing:

: You say Your Doc uses Homeopathy; sounds a bit 'so so la la'.

: She can do a great job with Homeopathy, i only want to assure:

: IS She doing Hom. as the main focus ? If not, this can be tedious...

: E.G.: my Ex is a dedicated Hom. for about 15 Years, does it 99%, but had difficult cases with some patients, with me and Herself, nonetheless. "hopeless" cases.

: Since some months She is coworking with a Witch who has learned Hom. since She became a patient with another homeopath, and added Her special insights to it :))))

: Now this Woman is treating wife's difficult cases, wife Herself, and me, with all signs of improvement; She does this with a sleepwalker's security.

: So much about trap and gospel of Homeopathy.

: With sensitive mucous membranes, i think there is still some amelioration-potential; better than dull mucous membranes, but still not ideal, i think ;-)

: ciao,

: juergen.





juergen

"an experienced practitioner of material arts",

is this a medical discipline ? have never heard of it.
Or do You mean martial arts (Kung-fu etc).

Which would point in the direction of Oriental medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine etc.

From what you tell he seems to be no expert of homeopathy, but sometimes the wrong homeopathic medicine can be usefull as  well, pointing more clearly to the right one :)
If he has the means to heal such a newly occured condition with "his own" methods, fine.
My Ex is of Oriental Origin and She knows the TCM as well but never uses it. From a 4-year stay in Korea, She has made the experience, that a very few Oriental healers are capable of healing their patients.

The TCM is much more recognized by Western Medicine than homeopathy, because they have much more in common(antipathic principle), so it is not surprising to find them represented increasingly in "old prestigious" universities.

Stay to him as long as it feels right.

juergen.

: Actually, he is a nature-healer. He has a natural talent for healing and is working with many different kinds of medical methods. For instance, he is an experienced practitioner of material arts and senses distortions in my energy field. He is also using traditional medicine and mineral therapy based on scientific tests. He has a very good reputation and is even teaching medical students at our university (which is an old and prestigious one). I trust him a lot and I am rather sure he knows what he is doing. This far he has only prescribed two homeopathic medicines, which I only had to take for a short while.

: : Vyana,

: : before i go into details with your interesting thoughts and try find some interesting answers :)

: : ... there is one important thing:

: : You say Your Doc uses Homeopathy; sounds a bit 'so so la la'.

: : She can do a great job with Homeopathy, i only want to assure:

: : IS She doing Hom. as the main focus ? If not, this can be tedious...

: : E.G.: my Ex is a dedicated Hom. for about 15 Years, does it 99%, but had difficult cases with some patients, with me and Herself, nonetheless. "hopeless" cases.

: : Since some months She is coworking with a Witch who has learned Hom. since She became a patient with another homeopath, and added Her special insights to it :))))

: : Now this Woman is treating wife's difficult cases, wife Herself, and me, with all signs of improvement; She does this with a sleepwalker's security.

: : So much about trap and gospel of Homeopathy.

: : With sensitive mucous membranes, i think there is still some amelioration-potential; better than dull mucous membranes, but still not ideal, i think ;-)

: : ciao,

: : juergen.






Vyana

: "an experienced practitioner of material arts",

: is this a medical discipline ? have never heard of it.
: Or do You mean martial arts (Kung-fu etc).

Ooops! Of course I do.




Mystress

  J.  I like your enthusiasm, but this is FST, not homeopathy 101... think prescribing to the members may be inappropriate? No means no... :)
 Blessings...


: "an experienced practitioner of material arts",

: is this a medical discipline ? have never heard of it.
: Or do You mean martial arts (Kung-fu etc).

: Which would point in the direction of Oriental medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine etc.

: From what you tell he seems to be no expert of homeopathy, but sometimes the wrong homeopathic medicine can be usefull as  well, pointing more clearly to the right one :)
: If he has the means to heal such a newly occured condition with "his own" methods, fine.
: My Ex is of Oriental Origin and She knows the TCM as well but never uses it. From a 4-year stay in Korea, She has made the experience, that a very few Oriental healers are capable of healing their patients.

: The TCM is much more recognized by Western Medicine than homeopathy, because they have much more in common(antipathic principle), so it is not surprising to find them represented increasingly in "old prestigious" universities.

: Stay to him as long as it feels right.

: juergen.


: : Actually, he is a nature-healer. He has a natural talent for healing and is working with many different kinds of medical methods. For instance, he is an experienced practitioner of material arts and senses distortions in my energy field. He is also using traditional medicine and mineral therapy based on scientific tests. He has a very good reputation and is even teaching medical students at our university (which is an old and prestigious one). I trust him a lot and I am rather sure he knows what he is doing. This far he has only prescribed two homeopathic medicines, which I only had to take for a short while.

: : : Vyana,

: : : before i go into details with your interesting thoughts and try find some interesting answers :)

: : : ... there is one important thing:

: : : You say Your Doc uses Homeopathy; sounds a bit 'so so la la'.

: : : She can do a great job with Homeopathy, i only want to assure:

: : : IS She doing Hom. as the main focus ? If not, this can be tedious...

: : : E.G.: my Ex is a dedicated Hom. for about 15 Years, does it 99%, but had difficult cases with some patients, with me and Herself, nonetheless. "hopeless" cases.

: : : Since some months She is coworking with a Witch who has learned Hom. since She became a patient with another homeopath, and added Her special insights to it :))))

: : : Now this Woman is treating wife's difficult cases, wife Herself, and me, with all signs of improvement; She does this with a sleepwalker's security.

: : : So much about trap and gospel of Homeopathy.

: : : With sensitive mucous membranes, i think there is still some amelioration-potential; better than dull mucous membranes, but still not ideal, i think ;-)

: : : ciao,

: : : juergen.






juergen

Well, not really prescribing :)
but, yes understanding the difference of homeopathy and antipathy is of relevance with FST, i think, which i tried to explain in an other post in this tobacco thread(although withholding some of the originally planned content).

Homeopathy is a universal healing principal which can't be outside any true system; it is a measure of truth.
It is far more than is usually considered by this term.


But i got Your hint as well.. Maybe better direct enthusiasm to other topics.

Yes, agreed i took it a bit too far :)

juergen.

:   J.  I like your enthusiasm, but this is FST, not homeopathy 101... think prescribing to the members may be inappropriate? No means no... :)
:   Blessings...

:
: : "an experienced practitioner of material arts",

: : is this a medical discipline ? have never heard of it.
: : Or do You mean martial arts (Kung-fu etc).

: : Which would point in the direction of Oriental medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine etc.

: : From what you tell he seems to be no expert of homeopathy, but sometimes the wrong homeopathic medicine can be usefull as  well, pointing more clearly to the right one :)
: : If he has the means to heal such a newly occured condition with "his own" methods, fine.
: : My Ex is of Oriental Origin and She knows the TCM as well but never uses it. From a 4-year stay in Korea, She has made the experience, that a very few Oriental healers are capable of healing their patients.

: : The TCM is much more recognized by Western Medicine than homeopathy, because they have much more in common(antipathic principle), so it is not surprising to find them represented increasingly in "old prestigious" universities.

: : Stay to him as long as it feels right.

: : juergen.


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: : : Actually, he is a nature-healer. He has a natural talent for healing and is working with many different kinds of medical methods. For instance, he is an experienced practitioner of material arts and senses distortions in my energy field. He is also using traditional medicine and mineral therapy based on scientific tests. He has a very good reputation and is even teaching medical students at our university (which is an old and prestigious one). I trust him a lot and I am rather sure he knows what he is doing. This far he has only prescribed two homeopathic medicines, which I only had to take for a short while.

: : : : Vyana,

: : : : before i go into details with your interesting thoughts and try find some interesting answers :)

: : : : ... there is one important thing:

: : : : You say Your Doc uses Homeopathy; sounds a bit 'so so la la'.

: : : : She can do a great job with Homeopathy, i only want to assure:

: : : : IS She doing Hom. as the main focus ? If not, this can be tedious...

: : : : E.G.: my Ex is a dedicated Hom. for about 15 Years, does it 99%, but had difficult cases with some patients, with me and Herself, nonetheless. "hopeless" cases.

: : : : Since some months She is coworking with a Witch who has learned Hom. since She became a patient with another homeopath, and added Her special insights to it :))))

: : : : Now this Woman is treating wife's difficult cases, wife Herself, and me, with all signs of improvement; She does this with a sleepwalker's security.

: : : : So much about trap and gospel of Homeopathy.

: : : : With sensitive mucous membranes, i think there is still some amelioration-potential; better than dull mucous membranes, but still not ideal, i think ;-)

: : : : ciao,

: : : : juergen.






Gustaf

The guy who hosted the FST workshop in Sweden last year sells Ayurvedic cigaretts/cigars, which are supposed to have health benefits if used correctly, for the right person. I tried one but smoke usually gives me headaches so figured it wasn't anything for me. :) Used to smoke at parties during my teens (Gave me nasty hangovers, so dropped it too)

The tobacco that people put under their lip here in Sweden, called "snus" made me feel outright nauseous.

Surprisingly, pot never gave me any nausea or headaches...   Of course, I know absolutely nothing about this sort of stuff, and it doesn't seem to be any primary focus in my life either. :)

Namaste
Gustaf

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:   Tobacco has a few medicinal effects, including stimulating bowel movements, and nicotine is an insecticide. It was sacred to the Natives of north and south america. It has a specific effect on some neuroreceptors, serotonin levels? Not certain of the medical language. The Amazon word for Shaman means "tobacco user" which is my favourite excuse... :)

:   It has spiritual uses.. it is also more addictive than heroin and I assume you've heard the health warnings.

:   This weekend one of my cousins asked how much I smoke. druid guessed 10 per day, but a pack I had bought two days before (25) was still half full. So, perhaps six.

:   I was travelling, usually I roll my own and smoke one 200g can of the lightest canadian tobacoo per month, a little less, if you deduct for spillage and butts. Housekeepers and others have been surprised to discover I smoke because the smell doesn't linger... unlike nasty american tobacco.

:   I use a long bamboo holder, which cools the smoke and precipitates most of the tar. I make the holders, myself. I tend to sort of sip the smoke, gently drawing a mouthful of smoke to taste it, then letting it drift into my lungs with my next breath of air... instead of inhaling it directly... which cools it further, and means I am swallowing it as saliva (and mixed with amitra) and absorbing it through mucous membranes as much as inhaling it.

:   The correct way to smoke a cigar, is to not inhale at all, only taste the smoke. Inhaling will make you barf.

:   So, though my usage is very small... I still carry nicotine gum on long plane trips.  As I said to my critical Dad (who is very allergic) very powerful witch dominant sadist in a raving nic fit is someone you don't want to meet unless you are prone to suicidal tendencies... :) If Goddess wants me to quit, it will happen, in the meantime I don't worry about it.

:   I prefer not to be photographed smoking, because some people are stupid enough for "monkey see, monkey do." People who are dumb enough to start smoking just because I am addicted should not be my students...  

:   If you choose to experiment for sacred purposes, treat it as such. Get some organic, untreated tobacco that is not pre-rolled, or even pre-cut, so that indulgence is a inconvenient ritual, of cutting and rolling, or filling a long stemmed pipe... not something to buy at the corner store to suck on, waiting for a bus.

:   I'm not recommending you start smoking, though... just to be clear.