Goddes dropped by to confuse me, and left without answering me:

There are 5 different "kundalini´s". You have not yet had kundalini rise to the crown, it was prana. (me i guess *s*)

Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

1 of the 5 was ?chit? kundalini i belive was the word, the feminine kundalini, no others mentioned. I cannot find info on this anywhere..

And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

I have done the grounding etc. 1000+ times as described but apparently i missed something.. or so it sounds? I feel grounded, centered and in surrender most of the time.

When she left i felt the energy rise, but if that was kundalini i do cannot sense the difference between this experience and past "kundalini" experiences.

Hints are most welcome.. since my curiosity was stirred alot.

Tommy

: Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

In the yogic tradition there are many forms or phases of awakening, e.g. awakening of Pingala nadi, of Ida nadi, of each of the chakras (and all the secondary chakras), the awakening of different forms of prana, the awakening of Sushumna nadi and the awakening of kundalini in the Brahmari nadi inside Sushumna nadi.

Five are the yogic bodies and the pranas.

Due to the yoga philosophy the human being is composed of five different bodies, shells or "koshas". These are the following:

(1) Annamaya kosha, which is the physical body.

(2) Pranamaya kosha, which is the energy body. It is composed of prana, the vital life energy which organises the body parts and provides movement for mental and physical expression.

(3) Manomaya kosha is the psychic body or the intellect. This is the dimension of the lower mind, incorporating intellect, reason, concept, feelings and memory.

(4) Vijnanamaya kosha is the intuitive body or the astral body. This is a more subtle area of higher knowledge and intuitive awareness.

(5) Anandamaya kosha is the spiritual body or the body of bliss. This is essentially a body of pure light in the realm of spiritual bliss, beyond the reach of language.

The pranas (or areas of the pranic body) are:

(1) Prana.

(2) Apana.

(3) Samana.

(4) Udana.

(5) Vyana.

(1)-(4) are related to different parts of the  body. Vyana (Sic!) is the vital force which pervades the whole body and acts as reserve energy.

Do you get any insights from this?

Thanks for the input Vyana. I am not sure the answer is the one i seek though. I am familiar with the energysystem, and i am not sure if the 5 kundalinis refers to stages of awakening?

There seemed to be 5 different kundalinies..

I have read alot about kundalini, and even believ-ed my kundalini to be active. But with this bomb i see that i know hardly anything. I know about the effects of the kundalini burning trough my blockages and karma. About processing. About growing. Surrender. Non-duality.

But when it comes to the actual energy i know little. I belive the purpose of kundalini is to make a clear vessel for divinity, clear dualistic experiences.. merge one into oneness, selfrealization and "godrealization". But this i believe because it ressonates, not because i know.

But maybe the 5 kundalinis are stages of the same energy? When for example the "bulldozer kundalini" has made a pathway it turns into "oneness kundalini" etc.? or something like that. But then to me it seems to be the experience that changes more than the actual kundalini?

: : Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

: In the yogic tradition there are many forms or phases of awakening, e.g. awakening of Pingala nadi, of Ida nadi, of each of the chakras (and all the secondary chakras), the awakening of different forms of prana, the awakening of Sushumna nadi and the awakening of kundalini in the Brahmari nadi inside Sushumna nadi.

: Five are the yogic bodies and the pranas.

: Due to the yoga philosophy the human being is composed of five different bodies, shells or "koshas". These are the following:

: (1) Annamaya kosha, which is the physical body.

: (2) Pranamaya kosha, which is the energy body. It is composed of prana, the vital life energy which organises the body parts and provides movement for mental and physical expression.

: (3) Manomaya kosha is the psychic body or the intellect. This is the dimension of the lower mind, incorporating intellect, reason, concept, feelings and memory.

: (4) Vijnanamaya kosha is the intuitive body or the astral body. This is a more subtle area of higher knowledge and intuitive awareness.

: (5) Anandamaya kosha is the spiritual body or the body of bliss. This is essentially a body of pure light in the realm of spiritual bliss, beyond the reach of language.

: The pranas (or areas of the pranic body) are:

: (1) Prana.

: (2) Apana.

: (3) Samana.

: (4) Udana.

: (5) Vyana.

: (1)-(4) are related to different parts of the  body. Vyana (Sic!) is the vital force which pervades the whole body and acts as reserve energy.

: Do you get any insights from this?

This seems to be about the ascension of kundalini, doesn%rsquot it? The kundalini can rise without reaching the crown. Actually, before the kundalini reaches the crown, it is said to pass through all the chakras, one by one, and awaken them. But that is just seven steps if you assume there are seven chakras. However the crown chakra is not really a chakra. And maybe you should not count the first chakra. Then there are five phases left. But this is probably about something else.

However, when the crown has been reached, the kundalini turns downward to clear the body. Then you might talk of a different kundalini. So, if you identified two different kundalinis, this might be one of the remaining three. And maybe yet another one is the kundalini piercing the whole body with chi. But this doesn%rsquot seem obviously convincing either.

: Thanks for the input Vyana. I am not sure the answer is the one i seek though. I am familiar with the energysystem, and i am not sure if the 5 kundalinis refers to stages of awakening?

: There seemed to be 5 different kundalinies..

: I have read alot about kundalini, and even believ-ed my kundalini to be active. But with this bomb i see that i know hardly anything. I know about the effects of the kundalini burning trough my blockages and karma. About processing. About growing. Surrender. Non-duality.

: But when it comes to the actual energy i know little. I belive the purpose of kundalini is to make a clear vessel for divinity, clear dualistic experiences.. merge one into oneness, selfrealization and "godrealization". But this i believe because it ressonates, not because i know.

: But maybe the 5 kundalinis are stages of the same energy? When for example the "bulldozer kundalini" has made a pathway it turns into "oneness kundalini" etc.? or something like that. But then to me it seems to be the experience that changes more than the actual kundalini?

Hello Tommy!

First thing I would do is to drop the sharp distinction between the different kundalini's. Let me make a comparison.  The best comparison are the different states of meditation described in yoga. Pratyahara (withdrawal of senses or inner awareness), Dharana (concentration or onepointedness) Dhyana, (blending of opposites), and Samadhi (complete experience of oneness)  

What is sometimes described, is that these states are not distinctive of the other, but blend seamlessly into the next. We have just created certain milestones, like a framework so we can more easily understand it mentally.  I'd say there are similar things with chakras, as they are given so many different locations in different systems, and different systems even use different amounts of chakras.   Some yogis argue that the awakening of prana and kundalini are actually the same.  I've read about many different ways of describing kundalini awakening..   For example, the Satyananda tradition describes it as: 1. Balance of Ida & Pingala, 2. Awakening of Sushumna, 3. Rising of Kundalini. Sri Nirmala Devi describes it as an instant connection between the root chakra and the crown chakra, which is in the beginning very thin, and then grows exponentionally.  It's probably like looking at the elephant in the room, entering through different doors.

I'd say what -really- matters is what happens to your consciousness. Is there a lessening of thought, increased silent awareness of thought, a more free and open-ended perspective of life?  Those are the things I would look for.  How exactly the energy is felt in the spine (if felt at all) is really secondary in my opinion.. What happens to consciousness is what really matters..

I have no idea why Goddess offered you this distinction. Maybe she wishes to prepare you for something.

What I have noticed in my own process is that there has been a lessening of identification with being awakened, or pondering whether I'm truly awakened or not..  Those turned out to just be thoughtforms anwyay.

Maybe you have missed the same point as I have.  

Expectations.  Expectations of some mindblowing cosmic explosion that changes everything.. Maybe the catch is exactly in what you are saying.. You feel grounded, centered and in surrender, but still believe somewhere that something is missing..

Maybe it's simply the thought, the idea that something is missing, is what is missing.

My perspective is that Kundalini is always spontaneous, it can't be made to happen in any certain way.  Putting expectations on how, or what kind is probably, to my understanding, just another obstacle. Most meditation techniques are simply to clear garbage or change focus.. What is beyond mind then just happens or is already there (depending on how you look at it)

My hint would be to let go of the distinctions and allow the process to be seamless and spontaneous, avoid identifying with being at any particular stage.

That's my perspective on the whole thing. Take what resonates and ignore the rest.  Curious about what you feel about it though.

Namaste!
Gustaf

: Goddes dropped by to confuse me, and left without answering me:

: There are 5 different "kundalini´s". You have not yet had kundalini rise to the crown, it was prana. (me i guess *s*)

: Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

: 1 of the 5 was ?chit? kundalini i belive was the word, the feminine kundalini, no others mentioned. I cannot find info on this anywhere..

: And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

: I have done the grounding etc. 1000+ times as described but apparently i missed something.. or so it sounds? I feel grounded, centered and in surrender most of the time.

: When she left i felt the energy rise, but if that was kundalini i do cannot sense the difference between this experience and past "kundalini" experiences.

: Hints are most welcome.. since my curiosity was stirred alot.

: Tommy

Hello

It made some sense to me i must say.. but still I have been "focusing" on the things you mention, i have surrender my thought, experienced the now instead of trying to shape it with my mind, my expectations etc. I enjoy the silence and the bliss that emerges from it. It took some years for me/my mind to adjust. There was so much karma stirred that it seemed neverending. Now there is long periods of silence. It is easier for me to see now when i create karma, give my power away etc. because i dont do it all the time. This make integrating the experience of non-duality alot easier.

But when "the bomb" was dropped something became clear to me even though i dont mentally understand: The surrender, the now, the free mind..is reactions. Goddes shifted my consciousness to the actual "force of kundalini" itself. (or tried to atleast)

Like the door is open, why dont u go in?

In my words it goes something like: I have surrendered the paradox of feeling complete and whole, and yet being aware i have limitations. But Somehow the Grounding brought me to a plateu, i am not in need to go further. There is nothing wrong with me, so why fix it etc.

But in my magnificant enlightened state (*sss*) i missed the essence somehow? it is not about living with kundalini, it is about.. something?

I cannot rule out that Goddes is just kidding about the 5 kundalinies, or it is my mind needing food for thought. But somehow my mind does not care.

I wonder if becomming familiar with the kundalini and using the tool of grounding and surrender has somehow dulled me a bit spirit wise. A few years ago the presence of God-des came in so strong that i could not breathe.. like there was a gab between me and Goddes that made exsistence impossible to bear. Like experiencing the most fresh and clean mountain air with a cigarette in the hand and a platic bag over the head. It tore me apart.. but it also moved me, inspired me, filled me with light and love. But somehow the gab had to go.

Maybe it is a seekers syndrom, i am used to the process of growing and clearing.. and when this is no longer a full time job, the seeker should become a finder. Or just magically dissapear

But since i write this am am not fully there. As i stated i have no NEED to go further. but who told me that need is the only reason for moving?? (ouch)

In short i have a gutfeeling that there is more to the kundalini experience for me than "just" coping with it. Like a merging with it.

What made me listen was the "fact" that i had not yet experienced kundalini. Not in the hurt ego sense.. more in the sense of inspiration.

I guess it does not matter if there is 1, 5 or 100 different kundalinies.. if i dont know one of them. And i dont care about knowing all of them if it is just theoretical knowledge.

But Goddes may my bubble be burst.. i am ready to surrender the security in what i know, what i think i know, and REALLY experience.

I am not sure if this is a followup post.. but it is what i wrote.

: Hello Tommy!

: First thing I would do is to drop the sharp distinction between the different kundalini's. Let me make a comparison.  The best comparison are the different states of meditation described in yoga. Pratyahara (withdrawal of senses or inner awareness), Dharana (concentration or onepointedness) Dhyana, (blending of opposites), and Samadhi (complete experience of oneness)  

: What is sometimes described, is that these states are not distinctive of the other, but blend seamlessly into the next. We have just created certain milestones, like a framework so we can more easily understand it mentally.  I'd say there are similar things with chakras, as they are given so many different locations in different systems, and different systems even use different amounts of chakras.   Some yogis argue that the awakening of prana and kundalini are actually the same.  I've read about many different ways of describing kundalini awakening..   For example, the Satyananda tradition describes it as: 1. Balance of Ida & Pingala, 2. Awakening of Sushumna, 3. Rising of Kundalini. Sri Nirmala Devi describes it as an instant connection between the root chakra and the crown chakra, which is in the beginning very thin, and then grows exponentionally.  It's probably like looking at the elephant in the room, entering through different doors.

: I'd say what -really- matters is what happens to your consciousness. Is there a lessening of thought, increased silent awareness of thought, a more free and open-ended perspective of life?  Those are the things I would look for.  How exactly the energy is felt in the spine (if felt at all) is really secondary in my opinion.. What happens to consciousness is what really matters..

: I have no idea why Goddess offered you this distinction. Maybe she wishes to prepare you for something.

: What I have noticed in my own process is that there has been a lessening of identification with being awakened, or pondering whether I'm truly awakened or not..  Those turned out to just be thoughtforms anwyay.

: Maybe you have missed the same point as I have.  

: Expectations.  Expectations of some mindblowing cosmic explosion that changes everything.. Maybe the catch is exactly in what you are saying.. You feel grounded, centered and in surrender, but still believe somewhere that something is missing..

: Maybe it's simply the thought, the idea that something is missing, is what is missing.

: My perspective is that Kundalini is always spontaneous, it can't be made to happen in any certain way.  Putting expectations on how, or what kind is probably, to my understanding, just another obstacle. Most meditation techniques are simply to clear garbage or change focus.. What is beyond mind then just happens or is already there (depending on how you look at it)

: My hint would be to let go of the distinctions and allow the process to be seamless and spontaneous, avoid identifying with being at any particular stage.

: That's my perspective on the whole thing. Take what resonates and ignore the rest.  Curious about what you feel about it though.

: Namaste!
: Gustaf

: : Goddes dropped by to confuse me, and left without answering me:

: : There are 5 different "kundalini´s". You have not yet had kundalini rise to the crown, it was prana. (me i guess *s*)

: : Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

: : 1 of the 5 was ?chit? kundalini i belive was the word, the feminine kundalini, no others mentioned. I cannot find info on this anywhere..

: : And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

: : I have done the grounding etc. 1000+ times as described but apparently i missed something.. or so it sounds? I feel grounded, centered and in surrender most of the time.

: : When she left i felt the energy rise, but if that was kundalini i do cannot sense the difference between this experience and past "kundalini" experiences.

: : Hints are most welcome.. since my curiosity was stirred alot.

: : Tommy

: Goddes dropped by to confuse me, and left without answering me:

: There are 5 different "kundalini´s". You have not yet had kundalini rise to the crown, it was prana. (me i guess *s*)

Hmmm. That doesn't surprise me. Surrender is the imperative of Kundalini, and for you it seems kind of optional.

 Do a search on the Five Shaktis. Shaktis are referred to as powers, and also Goddesses. Prepare to be confused!
 I have encountered the idea before, I just don't consider it relevant.

 Ask Goddess to awaken your Kundalini. Blessings...  

: Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

: 1 of the 5 was ?chit? kundalini i belive was the word, the feminine kundalini, no others mentioned. I cannot find info on this anywhere..

: And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

: I have done the grounding etc. 1000+ times as described but apparently i missed something.. or so it sounds? I feel grounded, centered and in surrender most of the time.

: When she left i felt the energy rise, but if that was kundalini i do cannot sense the difference between this experience and past "kundalini" experiences.

: Hints are most welcome.. since my curiosity was stirred alot.

: Tommy

Heh, that didn't occur to me! the 5 kundalini's = the 5 pranas.. I've read about them a hundred times in yoga books and the connection went right past me. Nifty

: Hmmm. That doesn't surprise me. Surrender is the imperative of Kundalini, and for you it seems kind of optional.

:   Do a search on the Five Shaktis. Shaktis are referred to as powers, and also Goddesses. Prepare to be confused!
:   I have encountered the idea before, I just don't consider it relevant.

:   Ask Goddess to awaken your Kundalini. Blessings...  

Gustaf, I suggested the five pranas in my first post, but the Five Shaktis is something else %ndash five phases prior to awakening %ndash or?

: And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

Hi Tommy!

As for me the secret of Kundalini lies in the word itself, when you speak it: you can observe the tongue making the waveform motion of the serpent: flow;  hope it helps!

juergen.

: Tommy

Thank you for the responses everyone.

I did a search on the 5 Shaktis, it clarified a bit even though i did not expect it to be the answer. The five shaktis appears to be the atributes of divinity, noticable trough the expressions of the energy. It is refered to as qualities.. divine qualities expressed. The 1-5 is levels of surrender. When one surrender deeper and deeper the qualities of the energy changes.. or atleast the experience and expression of it changes. The changes are so great that it is like a new experience.. hence the categorization. So i Guess Vyana and Gustaf where spot on

As for my optional surrender i would like some guidance.

I never thought of my surrender as optional.. more as a more or less integrated part of me. So i am only aware of it when i am not in surrender. But your hint made sense though.

When the awakening took off i had only spiritual surrender. The deep connection with God and the love and bliss that came from it. But it was not of this world, and very hard for me to bring into my life. I could emerge in it, carry the love with me, express the love.. but somehow i discided i was not ready, worthy and that it did not fit in my everyday life. I had to go to school and work (had screams out *s*).. and how to do that with so much love? Peoples reactions scared me, i had not had love before and now i had too much.. so for various twisted reasons i descided i was not ready for love.. it was a very "up there" experience.

When i started this course i enjoyed it so much, The witness state was a gift i treasured.. but not only for healthy reasons. I found the surrender very usefull, I had a hard time suffering in the presence of God.. and i knew little of my own responsibillity for my life. I was in inner conflict because of it, how can God be here and love me sooo much.. and yet he had given me such a crap life experience.. he does not answer my prayers or give me what i want.. if he is so great where is my 1.000.000 bucks?? etc. etc.

The surrender helped my inner conflicts, bit by bit my inner oceans started to calm. But i see now that i abandonded a part of myself. I did/do not understand the full meaning of surrender. There was the surrender i experiences in the presence of God, the spiritual overwhelming that naturally occured.. and the tool of surrender i used to become whole. I used the tool of surrender alot, but somehow forgot where the grace came from. I knew somehow that i had to use the tool, i had to bring the experience down, or rid myself of my imbalances so that i could handle going up. My surrender became my hidingplace, no emotional pain, no mental conflicts, no entities.... no responsibillity... no presence.

Can you please help me understand the deeper meaning of surrender mystress? I thought it was more a conscept you brought from your background as a mystress (a powergame thing). When the presence of God was there it came naturally.. so now i just wait untill God drops by again?

I somewhat understand the lessening of ego aspects of surrender, but when i met God he came to me, how can i give myself to him/her? how to use the door of divine surrender? I am not my emotions, i am not my mind.. why offer these.. how to offer my consciousness?

there is some unresolved powerlessness here for me. I do not want to own God as an object, but that presence is all i want?? When God comes to me it is easy and effortless to love, if i have to cultivate and express these qualities "myself" i am a long way from home.. and yet next door.  

Regards

: : Goddes dropped by to confuse me, and left without answering me:

: : There are 5 different "kundalini´s". You have not yet had kundalini rise to the crown, it was prana. (me i guess *s*)

: Hmmm. That doesn't surprise me. Surrender is the imperative of Kundalini, and for you it seems kind of optional.

:   Do a search on the Five Shaktis. Shaktis are referred to as powers, and also Goddesses. Prepare to be confused!
:   I have encountered the idea before, I just don't consider it relevant.

:   Ask Goddess to awaken your Kundalini. Blessings...  

: : Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

: : 1 of the 5 was ?chit? kundalini i belive was the word, the feminine kundalini, no others mentioned. I cannot find info on this anywhere..

: : And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

: : I have done the grounding etc. 1000+ times as described but apparently i missed something.. or so it sounds? I feel grounded, centered and in surrender most of the time.

: : When she left i felt the energy rise, but if that was kundalini i do cannot sense the difference between this experience and past "kundalini" experiences.

: : Hints are most welcome.. since my curiosity was stirred alot.

: : Tommy

: When i started this course i enjoyed it so much, The witness state was a gift i treasured.. but not only for healthy reasons. I found the surrender very usefull, I had a hard time suffering in the presence of God.. and i knew little of my own responsibillity for my life. I was in inner conflict because of it, how can God be here and love me sooo much.. and yet he had given me such a crap life experience.. he does not answer my prayers or give me what i want.. if he is so great where is my 1.000.000 bucks?? etc. etc.

An aspect of surrender is looking for perfection in the here and now.  

 I counselled a woman once, her teenage- adult  children were suicidal because the game software they had written had not made them millionaires yet! Looking for perfection... it was obvious that the kids were not mature enough to handle big money. What would they do with it? Buy fast cars and get themselves killed?

Statistically, a certain percentage of big money lottery winners don't survive the experience. It makes a big change, they buy fancy toys and have accidents, visit foreign countries and get illnesses they have no natural immunity for, some get kidnapped, or murdered by jealous relatives.

 My druid and I bought tickets on the "dream home" lottery last year. We toured the house, what a great tantra retreat center it would have made!  I did not win, and looking for perfection I realized I am not ready for that yet. I still have not completely conquered my excessive empathy.

 So, an aspect of surrender is accepting what Is, looking for perfection in it. Seeing "As Goddess wills" in everything.  

: The surrender helped my inner conflicts, bit by bit my inner oceans started to calm. But i see now that i abandonded a part of myself. I did/do not understand the full meaning of surrender. There was the surrender i experiences in the presence of God, the spiritual overwhelming that naturally occured.. and the tool of surrender i used to become whole. I used the tool of surrender alot, but somehow forgot where the grace came from. I knew somehow that i had to use the tool, i had to bring the experience down, or rid myself of my imbalances so that i could handle going up. My surrender became my hidingplace, no emotional pain, no mental conflicts, no entities.... no responsibillity... no presence.

The Witness is a useful place to visit, in that place you can get insights into perfection, but hiding out there to avoid the world is resistance.

 In a way, it is similar for me. A combination of ADD and post traumatic stress means I get knocked out of body into the Witness very easily... any threat or emotional intensity, or empathy with the pain of another will do it, and in that space I have no boundaries. My body starts to fail if I spend too much time out of it, and so part of my surrender is to be gentle with myself, be around respectful people, and lately it is to greatly reduce the number of empathic healing sessions I do.
 It has hard, this is my career, but my body just doesn't want to carry other people's karma anymore. It wants to be a temple of me, my soul and Goddess within me.

 Witness state surrender is easy for me, built in automatic reflex.  My challenge, is to live fully embodied. I admit, I am not very good at it...  

: Can you please help me understand the deeper meaning of surrender mystress? I thought it was more a conscept you brought from your background as a mystress (a powergame thing).

Heh, no... although those experiences helped me to clarify the meaning of surrender... and it is all about the power chakra!

:When the presence of God was there it came naturally.. so now i just wait untill God drops by again?

: I somewhat understand the lessening of ego aspects of surrender, but when i met God he came to me, how can i give myself to him/her? how to use the door of divine surrender? I am not my emotions, i am not my mind.. why offer these..

Yes, you are not mind or emotions, but mind, body and emotions are yours to give. "Goddess take this."  They carry the content of your karma, and as you let go and clear karma your body vibration rises and your subjective world becomes closer to the Divine world.

 Right now there is separation: you are having a hard time integrating the vast bliss of the out of body experience of unity with the Godhead, with your physical reality of day to day life. There is an "I" - "Eye" that does not see Goddess perfection in what Is.  

how to offer my consciousness?

: there is some unresolved powerlessness here for me. I do not want to own God as an object, but that presence is all i want?? When God comes to me it is easy and effortless to love, if i have to cultivate and express these qualities "myself" i am a long way from home.. and yet next door.  

You don't have to. Just surrender every thing you think is not love, until there is nothing but love left. When you hand the mundane over to the Divine, the mundane becomes Divine.  It is all Goddess anyway, but with surrender you can know it absolutely.
 Surrender the separation, bring the two worlds together.

  Does that answer your question?
 Thank you for your gentleness and vulnerability.  Blessings!  

: Regards

:  
: : : Goddes dropped by to confuse me, and left without answering me:

: : : There are 5 different "kundalini´s". You have not yet had kundalini rise to the crown, it was prana. (me i guess *s*)

: : Hmmm. That doesn't surprise me. Surrender is the imperative of Kundalini, and for you it seems kind of optional.

: :   Do a search on the Five Shaktis. Shaktis are referred to as powers, and also Goddesses. Prepare to be confused!
: :   I have encountered the idea before, I just don't consider it relevant.

: :   Ask Goddess to awaken your Kundalini. Blessings...  

: : : Does anyone know about the 5 different kundalinis?

: : : 1 of the 5 was ?chit? kundalini i belive was the word, the feminine kundalini, no others mentioned. I cannot find info on this anywhere..

: : : And how to change so it is shakti/kundalini not prana that rises? and whats the difference?

: : : I have done the grounding etc. 1000+ times as described but apparently i missed something.. or so it sounds? I feel grounded, centered and in surrender most of the time.

: : : When she left i felt the energy rise, but if that was kundalini i do cannot sense the difference between this experience and past "kundalini" experiences.

: : : Hints are most welcome.. since my curiosity was stirred alot.

: : : Tommy