I'm wondering about seeing posts of students who seem reluctant to see an MD about physical symptoms. Spiritual healing is not a replacement for regular medical care.  Go see a doctor.

  I go see an MD with any wierd symptom, especially if it persists. I don't always take their advice!! Sometimes Goddess moves me to modify it, or look for a second opinion, but I value the information I get.

 Right now I'm under the care of an MD, a physiotherapist and two chiropractors. I'm grateful to all of them. I have learned a lot about my body and what maintenance it needs as it gets older, through the process of recovering from whiplash.  

 For years I would get a symptom of an electric pain like a needle stabbing a nerve, that would run from my sternum to my nipple. Turns out, it is a sign of a rib moved out of place, pinching a nerve. Chiro told me it was a rib, physio taught me to push it back in place with a tennis ball.

 Both of them taught me what kind of exercise I need to build muscles to keep ribs from wandering. Just a sample... Its all good. Goddess provides.  

 I had exceme since I was a kid, went to a lot of doctors, dermatologists... they just gave me increasinly strong doses of cortesone.  In times of stress sometimes it would appear all over my body and itch terribly all the time. I would scratch even in my sleep.
 Naturopaths taught me to change my diet, Louise Hay taught me it was connected to stress of self criticism, and Goddess led me to nizoral dandruff shampoo and told me to use it on my whole body. Spirit + science! Not either-or.

 I hardly ever get excema anymore, and when I do I barely notice because it doesn't itch.

 A friend has an aunt.. all her life she had severe speech impediment, head twitches and shaking with bad muscle control...  A few months ago, in her 60's she happened to go to a different doctor who found she had encephalitis, undaignosed till now.

 A simple operation and she is fine, normal and free of the disability with a whole new lease on life.

 That her encephalitis, which is common in babies, went undiagnosed for 60 years is a tragedy, but that one MD who was smarter could cure it, is why Goddess invented modern medicine.  I encourage you to make use of it, for your physical symptoms. Goddess provides.  

I'm one who is very hesitant to see a doctor.  I got so tired of doctors who always told me they had never seen my condition before or that there was nothing they could do.  I just got tired of it.  However, the vast majority of doctors I know are genuinely caring people.  There are some I would trust with my life.  A few years ago I had the right side of my jaw rebuilt.  I was in surdery for 6 hours.  That doctor was a saint.  He was so tender and caring.

Dear Mystress,

I hope the following can be useful advice for some of us:

There is certainly good reason to be careful with physicians, or else disimprovement might follow. Cortisone, antibiotica, vaccination, tranquillizers and all sort of other palliations, regularly tend to ensue harmful after some time, especially when taken over years; many prescriptions are given and taken for such a long time and are only replaced then by something similar for further aeons...

But    that is no healing!

I'm decidedly up to recommend here in all medical cases the consulting of a good homeopath, with the stress on good, because many are so-called half-homeopaths and you can have the quackery from them either. A unique trademark of the half-homeopath is, that she or he is anti-spirituell and accepting only natural sciences, she is a chemistry afficionado etc. Thus she can't accept homeopathic remedies which are repeatedly diluted and potencised (through succussion or rubbing); thus she will only administer so-called low-potencies, which contain "real" substance while the high-potencies don't.
She can accept only the dilution, not the dynamizing effect of the succussion.
It's not likely that her mindset will work for you.

I'm seeing many people in health trouble here, and hope that my advise can avoid and spare them unnecessary pain, although of course i cannot really know which pain is necessary or not.

Many true Homeopaths grow into spirituality, naturally, and become for example acquainted with Carl Jung's works or Christian Mysticism or Yoga etc.

I'm no homeopath but only the husband of one, but i have "witnessed" lots of healings and real betterments... .

Love,

Juergen.

: I'm one who is very hesitant to see a doctor.  I got so tired of doctors who always told me they had never seen my condition before or that there was nothing they could do.  I just got tired of it.  However, the vast majority of doctors I know are genuinely caring people.  There are some I would trust with my life.  A few years ago I had the right side of my jaw rebuilt.  I was in surdery for 6 hours.  That doctor was a saint.  He was so tender and caring.

Dear Paris, right, there are such doctors and such.

Certainly, the example of Your jaw being rebuild shows the sugar-side of that profession. Dentists can be a real treasure! And also surgeons often are.
After 6 long hours, that You can still be thankful to that man, then You must have made a very lucky choice! I've also been thankful last autumn after a difficult extraction, but that was only 1 little hour!

I find it good that you still look at it the positive way; a positive attitude towards people may keep You healthy by itself. As the husband of a specialist in Anaestetics, turned to a Homeopath(and now upgrading to Psychotherapy) i have heard many stories and as i imagine, got some insights into the different aspects of western health care; this is from a perspective here from Germany, but i think it's widely valid for the Western World.

Certainly, most practical docs have good intentions; i made such an experience with a skin doc, a sympathic woman, who when i was twenty prescribed me the anti-baby-pill for my akne, i can't by the best will imagine that this had been a good idea, still i have no reminiscences, she simply didn't know better; she certainly had good intentions. Then came another doc also a gentle person, who offered to treat me homeopathically; however i was more into the mainstream then, so he finally bombed me with cortisone ointment(well that was one of those legendary half-homeopaths, beware of them!). Certainely he had good intentions!

Oh yes, one thing important for women(in the case that Paris, You are female) is the estrogene given for the menopause and very often for further on...; it really appears the practioners, more so the pharmacy, even don't shy away from black magick tricks to bring it to the woman. It more and more takes some stamina (or a kundalini-awakening?), to resist their seductions, maybe next time in the near future they give you a free whipping when they think you like it, in order for you to buy their pills. I've seen a documentation about it and they are well organized, they are liars and manipulate. They leave nothing out. Please don't trust them!

Another thing is diagnosis; much could be said about diagnosis; there is a saying that patients are diagnosed to death; in less cases it releases your pockets of some money without doing further harm; one possibility is, that they diagnose without a consequence, that is, they have absolutely no idea how to treat the corresponding disease afterward; another case is, that the diagnose is already clear, but nevertheless, for example, your tissue is in addition sent for a cancer test although it has been clearly diagnosed an ordinary abscess; by such a logic, they would cut their patients in stripes and send them to all their (im)possible tests; at least once every week.
Admitted these are escapades, and i'm not going against diagnosing as such, but these escapades are very frequent, often invasive(kind of ops themselves)and they blow up costs enourmously. In many countries it takes a form of health bolshevism, people would'nt pay for this, if they were not forced to pay for the big pot in advance.

With good intentions, it is such a thing...

I think there is one system to it: the doctor, does she more tend to the surgical direction or is she(or he) more into prescriptions;

In the first case, there is a good chance that they are skilled people because that is a skilled trade; for example dentists are among them, i'm still extremely thankful for that wierd extraction last fall, where no other option seemed opportune. However his prescription for the painkiller i threw away without hesitation(well, not right before his eyes)and took instead 2 or 3 pellets of Arnica 30 or 200, as soon as pain appeared and did this again three days later; this Arnica(as used by homeopaths) does more than only block the pain it really supports the healing process and when i showed up 1 week later he was very content with his results...

Still, however skilled they may be, the question remains, on which side they are: on the patient's side or on their own; especially gynecologists have been reported to clear out their patients' uterus for very slight, thatis flimsy causes.

Cancer early diagnosis is also cutting both ways; there is a certain widespread awareness among all kind of people through all layers that you might live longer(and better) without early diagnosis, and i bet they are right. You can take it as rule that once under the knife, the patients days are counted; and it's in agreement with homeopathic standards and philosophy.
Another thing is, when you get that early diagnosis and make another approach, change eating customs and other dubious behavior, clear Karma...

With a dermatologist , as another example, you would be also more on the warning lights area; they usually only suppress the skin symptoms, but still eruptions do occur, maybe smaller, but permanent/chronic, and regularly in accordance with a general worsening of the state, for example breathing problems, organic diseases, cramps, mental state etc.
Such an occurence of a disease-shift is perceived by many people and they are wise enough to throw the drugs away and look for better choices.
Then the hardcore people complain that it's a shame, these expensive drugs, yatta yatta yatta...ok, they drugs often discarded over years, but to accuse the patients here shows only lacking insight. They are sitting on a high horse and in their arrogance have no nose that the non-professionals are right here and the professionals are wrong. By the way, i think, this arrogance is something that all of us will have to surrender, more or less.

Well i'm a fan of homeopathy, cannot deny it, and i hope this goes not too far offtopic here!

I wish You always a lucky hand in health affairs,

Love,

Juergen.

As far as my understanding goes, every medical tradition has its specific angle on tackling health problems. Western medicine excells at surgery and looks mostly at the chemical processes in the body, Ayurveda looks at the doshas and the elements and how they affect us, Acupuncture uses the meridians and so forth. I'm not -exactly- sure what a homeopath does, but it's got something to do with using the body's own healing in form of very concentrated, small doses? If you are a big fan of homeopathy, I'd love to hear more about it.

We once had a visit from a polish man who is an energotherapist. He heals by manipulating our magnetic fields. The first thing he said is that "It should be a crime to use only one form of healing or medicine and disregard all the others"

But this is what we are doing, isn't it?  People like to find "proof" that their type of medicine is right, and the other types are inferior or unproven.  And who is really suffering for this? The patients, of course.

If we go and see a doctor or healer or massage therapist or something else, they always have something to teach us.  But it may simply be to go deeper into our own intuition and guidance.  Just because we go somewhere doesn't mean we have to do everything they say, especially if our gut instinct says no!

Here in Sweden homeopaths and natural healers are in a constant war with the contemporary medical community, they keep posting "research" that claim that they are right and the others are wrong. Then they go to the papers with it.  

I find the whole thing to be incredibly ridiculous and outright daft. It's like this big ego game rather than the wellbeing of people's health. Bleh.

I'll let me own insights guide which treatments to take and which ones not to take.

None of the medical systems are complete in and of themselves. None!  If they were, we would only have one type of treatment by now, one way of looking at the body. The body has doshas, chemical processes and meridians as well, sometimes one treatment is more appropriate than another (And yes, this includes western medicine too)

Funny thing with my boils is all I had to do was to adjust some habits to help detoxing. Now I get some excercise and sweat daily, and my skin is faring a -lot- better already. The boils started to shrivel and dry up. Even old ones that were only scars. This happened last fall also when I had some boils and went through shankaprakshalana (hatha yoga detox practice)

Thanks for sharing your insights about homeopathy! I still haven't understood what it's really about though.

Namaste!
Gustaf

: Dear Mystress,

: I hope the following can be useful advice for some of us:

: There is certainly good reason to be careful with physicians, or else disimprovement might follow. Cortisone, antibiotica, vaccination, tranquillizers and all sort of other palliations, regularly tend to ensue harmful after some time, especially when taken over years; many prescriptions are given and taken for such a long time and are only replaced then by something similar for further aeons...

: But    that is no healing!

: I'm decidedly up to recommend here in all medical cases the consulting of a good homeopath, with the stress on good, because many are so-called half-homeopaths and you can have the quackery from them either. A unique trademark of the half-homeopath is, that she or he is anti-spirituell and accepting only natural sciences, she is a chemistry afficionado etc. Thus she can't accept homeopathic remedies which are repeatedly diluted and potencised (through succussion or rubbing); thus she will only administer so-called low-potencies, which contain "real" substance while the high-potencies don't.
: She can accept only the dilution, not the dynamizing effect of the succussion.
: It's not likely that her mindset will work for you.

: I'm seeing many people in health trouble here, and hope that my advise can avoid and spare them unnecessary pain, although of course i cannot really know which pain is necessary or not.

: Many true Homeopaths grow into spirituality, naturally, and become for example acquainted with Carl Jung's works or Christian Mysticism or Yoga etc.

: I'm no homeopath but only the husband of one, but i have "witnessed" lots of healings and real betterments... .

: Love,

: Juergen.

Hi Gustaf,

thanks for your interesting insights, which i can only confirm, as far as eyem informed about the various divisions; my general awareness is, that there are two sorts of methods: those which can help and those which can't, within their sphere of use.
The good ones comply with natural laws, the bad ones don't.
Still one can produce miracles with the bad ones, but not for long.
This happens on many levels, but were talking here about medical issues, right?
One example comes to the mind:
A young woman suffered from baldness, her story was, that she had seen a doc, when her hair started falling, who gave her a cortisone treatment, with the result, that her hair grew rich and satisfying. Another result was, that she was also "on dope" now, and after a while even the cortisone couldn't prevent her from total baldness, much worse than ever before...
This is only an example but there is a system to it and its name is palliation or dope or addictive drug.
Including alcohol; always the same scheme: fast betterment, cold disillusion ensuing soon.
And somethings going wrong: back in my time at the student-hostel some medical student-friends pointed me to the cortisone contents of an ointment which lay around, decidedly warning me against this; so the cortisone was already frowned upon back then, in the western school of medicine. But if you look at the present, the practitioners still use it widely, and such ointments are even obtainable for everyone, without a prescription.
Ok, over time this will stop, but it can't do much harm, i think, to support  this breakdown a little by some testimony.
Because sin or separation can be very tedious within institutions, and there are lots of money dealt with, and i wouldn't be too credulous.
To those practitioners it cannot remain hidden, what they are really doing, but they have no alternatives to: hormones, antibiotics, palliatives, (addictive)drugs. The only thing to compensate incompetence is to become an actrice(or actor); not that acting to support to bring up karma, but actors in order to deceive; deceive the clients and probably deceive themselves.
I'm not being judgmental here, since these are facts.
I'm also not saying, that the medical  profession is the scum on earth.
In fact these are traits widespread through society, traits that we are struggling here to release and give up.
But the quacks are just an example and there is no use in supporting this.

This was something about the palliative method: To administer something of opposite effect, given in the hope that it might lead to balance, harmony.
Like balancing an acid with a base.
Sounds somewhat logic, but doesn't work. Never!
It's based on chemistry, so it's scientific, but applied to the living organism, there is a wrench in it: living beings are no chemical factories; life is constructed to provide autonomously for her needs, and not for being made a clinical case; the western approach is like sweeping out the jungle, to tell the jungle, what it's got to be like. We find it control-attitudes, preferably towards the children; finickily control someone!
In no time they are infantilized, needy, dependent. So it's up to the parents to continue to manage their childrens' affairs completely, more then they ever intended!
If they become worse, they are bad children.
Or bad patients, incompetent, incurable, simulants, crazy, unworthy... .
And it's the same with chemistry medicine: the life force says: "thanks for managing my affairs!So eyem going to have a little sleep(in the root chakra?).Please wake me when you need me again!"
This is foreign aid, which has also proved disastrous, foreign aid in the narrow sense.

In the kundalini course, as i view it, we're just doing the opposite!
We seek confrontation with the karma, we're trying to bring it up, perhaps doing some roleplay to have the picture before the nose, only to have some contents in the ugly mirror, to release; but not to suppress it/palliate it/rationalize it etc.
More like a plumber or sewerage worker, than an aesthete, when we are dealing with stuff.

This is exactly the location of homeopathy in the medical area!
It comes from the greek and means "suffering similar", which means, the remedy makes the patient suffer similar to her already actual suffering.
Remedies are made of metals, minerals, herbs, preeminently, and there is a unique preparation method, simultanously diluting the raw substance and "potentizing"(rubbing, shaking) it.
For instance a C30-preparation has been 30 times in succession diluted 1:100 in alcohol, each time neatly shaken. The final product is taken to moisten or impregnate some tiny sugar-pellets, which are also mostly the form of administration.
Now if you go take 2 different C30-remedies to a chemical analysis, they will find absolutely no difference between them, just the sugar!
However you can take  one of them in and watch what they do with you. Most probably they will produce the remedy's symptoms in you, not all but some, which you might have not experienced in all of your life. This is called proofing, and they did it much in the beginning of homeopathy, some 250 years ago, to obtain a reliable materia medica. Often the proofers repeated these doses(of 2 or 3 pellets)and possibly real distress might have ensued, so that "nothing" can be harmful though.
Well it reminds me much of the void, like Mystress is teaching about; i don't want to be rashly, but if i had to assign that energy of homeopathic potencies, i would put it next to the Shakti-Energy rather than  the chi or prana, because it really shows signs of intelligence.

Here is a link to a site with lots of material and some old classics to download: http://homeoint.org/

now i want to refer to you a bit more in detail:

"sometimes one treatment is more appropriate than another (And yes, this includes western medicine too)"

well, in order to know what's appropriate you gotta know, what is available, right? But orthodox "westerners", are by definition a bit narrow, although things are luckily changing, slowly.
By the way, from the side of a homeopathic physician, this is not easy to decide, if she be a western mediciner; i would say, she is a westerner, who has not been too shy to let her experience and intuition decide what works and what doesn't, and has taken that extra mile.
And as an "informed source" i can affirm, that she will most probably almost never go back to the old ways of medication; it's not a fifty:fifty thing!
However sometimes patients are already under western school treatment and have become dependent on it, and it's no problem to treat them parallel.

Or else, if a patient is in need of insulin or other substances, which the body cannot produce itself, because of damage: here the western school has something to offer; it is interesting however, that in such exceptional cases, where damage is irreversable, there can be no talking of healing, right?

Substitution can be useful as well, however the damage from the west, and this damage is no trifling matter, comes from their ambition, to heal by substitution, which is a contradiction in itself.

"Here in Sweden homeopaths and natural healers are in a constant war with the contemporary medical community, they keep posting "research" that claim that they are right and the others are wrong. Then they go to the papers with it."

You are right, Gustaf it's quite similarly the case here in Germany, but the issue of research cannot be pointed against naturopaths or homeopaths. It is more likely to be an issue of a witch-hunt campaign originated from the materialists, which is now firing back(Since waterproof research has prooven effectiveness, always doubted or rejected by the established). That campaign has also often been issued in one breath against the Astrologers, Spiritual Healers of all kinds, Clairvoyants.
Ok among the school mediciners there may also be tolerant, open minded, gentle people in all divisions, who cannot be held responsible for their organizations or lobbies in tv and politics etc; sure there are!

Then it's good to have intuition, like you do, but some people need still some training with it, and why not should clearness arise from repeatedly reading in the papers about controversial things? I think following controversies is also some kind of magick. It may stir up the desire for awakening :-)
One has only got to timely stop reading at a certain point! Well controversions likely to get ridiculous quickly, thats true, just like a competition in cakes-eating.

"If we go and see a doctor or healer or massage therapist or something else, they always have something to teach us. But it may simply be to go deeper into our own intuition and guidance. Just because we go somewhere doesn't mean we have to do everything they say, especially if our gut instinct says no!"

Seems good guidelines to follow!

"Funny thing with my boils is all I had to do was to adjust some habits to help detoxing. Now I get some excercise and sweat daily, and my skin is faring a -lot- better already. The boils started to shrivel and dry up. Even old ones that were only scars. This happened last fall also when I had some boils and went through shankaprakshalana (hatha yoga detox practice)"

Wow!
If you can do it like this, this is certainly the ideal way!

Somehow you awakened my interest in Ayurveda, since you said, it is grounded on the 5 Elements; juicy stuff!

So i wish you good luck further on and thanks again for the com,

Juergen.

: As far as my understanding goes, every medical tradition has its specific angle on tackling health problems. Western medicine excells at surgery and looks mostly at the chemical processes in the body, Ayurveda looks at the doshas and the elements and how they affect us, Acupuncture uses the meridians and so forth. I'm not -exactly- sure what a homeopath does, but it's got something to do with using the body's own healing in form of very concentrated, small doses? If you are a big fan of homeopathy, I'd love to hear more about it.

: We once had a visit from a polish man who is an energotherapist. He heals by manipulating our magnetic fields. The first thing he said is that "It should be a crime to use only one form of healing or medicine and disregard all the others"

: But this is what we are doing, isn't it?  People like to find "proof" that their type of medicine is right, and the other types are inferior or unproven.  And who is really suffering for this? The patients, of course.

: If we go and see a doctor or healer or massage therapist or something else, they always have something to teach us.  But it may simply be to go deeper into our own intuition and guidance.  Just because we go somewhere doesn't mean we have to do everything they say, especially if our gut instinct says no!

: Here in Sweden homeopaths and natural healers are in a constant war with the contemporary medical community, they keep posting "research" that claim that they are right and the others are wrong. Then they go to the papers with it.  

: I find the whole thing to be incredibly ridiculous and outright daft. It's like this big ego game rather than the wellbeing of people's health. Bleh.

: I'll let me own insights guide which treatments to take and which ones not to take.

: None of the medical systems are complete in and of themselves. None!  If they were, we would only have one type of treatment by now, one way of looking at the body. The body has doshas, chemical processes and meridians as well, sometimes one treatment is more appropriate than another (And yes, this includes western medicine too)

: Funny thing with my boils is all I had to do was to adjust some habits to help detoxing. Now I get some excercise and sweat daily, and my skin is faring a -lot- better already. The boils started to shrivel and dry up. Even old ones that were only scars. This happened last fall also when I had some boils and went through shankaprakshalana (hatha yoga detox practice)

: Thanks for sharing your insights about homeopathy! I still haven't understood what it's really about though.

: Namaste!
: Gustaf

:  I'm not -exactly- sure what a homeopath does, but it's got something to do with using the body's own healing in form of very concentrated, small doses? If you are a big fan of homeopathy, I'd love to hear more about it.

I know a little about it, right now I am taking a homeopathic remedy for my deaf ear... when I remember! The British royal family uses homeopathy almost exclusively, and they are very healthy and long lived.
 Essentially, homeopathy takes a substance that produces the same symptoms as the illness, then dilutes it repeatedly until there might not be even a single molecule of the substance in the finished dose, but the vibration of the substance remains, and that is what does the healing. When the body is stimulated to deal with the symptoms caused by the homeopathic remedy, it cures the symptoms of the illness as well.

 Strangely enough, it has also been used successfully for pest control. Take a damaging bug, make a solution of it and dilute it down and down then spray a crop, and the bug won't go near the crop! I guess the crop carries the vibe of the bugs death.

 Too bad they don't think to do the same with the problem of species introduced into places where they don't belong, like the cane toads in Australia.

 One of the wildest conspiracy theories I have ever heard states that the Third Reich has making anti-Jew homeopathic preparations from the ashes of Jews killed in the concentration camps, and spraying it over Germany. I'm doubtful there is any truth to it. At least, I hope not!

 Blessings...

:   Strangely enough, it has also been used successfully for pest control. Take a damaging bug, make a solution of it and dilute it down and down then spray a crop, and the bug won't go near the crop! I guess the crop carries the vibe of the bugs death.

the idea with "vibe of the bugs death" seems intriguing and extensible to all of hom. remedies, since their preparation process can be viewed as extremely destructive, killing the original substance; so the results are fine enough to permeate the whole body, the mental as well as the physical-one. On the other side it must be threatening enough to the original toxins, bugs microbes or what ever, by the law of similarity. So they flee in wild panic into the open arms of the immuno-gorillas!

right in the bulls eye, i would say!

for someone, who knows just a little about homeopathy ...

in silence and awe,

juergen.