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BDSM and spiritual path

Started by noer1, Nov 29, 2003, 10:22:05 AM

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noer1

Hello Mystress,

For last few days I have tried to understand BDSM lesson at FST.
Very hard lesson for me.
BDSM is something new for me.
As an eastern, it is very difficult to understand the relationship between spiritual path and BDSM.

I already read your page, ref: introduction to angelique.
I also have limited belief of how a spiritual person should behave.
But I'm not resistant, I'm ready for a new idea.

Pro-Dom & BDSM, (as usually found in adult site), first time make me a little shock, but finally give me another spiritual perspective.
In order to find more BDSM information, I already join K-Goddess forum.

I am still confuse.

What is the goal of role play & responsibility lesson ?
could you explain me that goals with eastern background or maybe with budhis term / background ?


Thank you.






Mystress

Well, the answer is, don't worry about it. It is not about you, move onto the next lesson. Re-reading the lesson, I can see how you might get confused, and so probably I will rewrite it at some point, to make it clearer. Thanks for the feedback!

 Some of the students of the course have a background in BDSM, and are drawn to me because of that,.. drawn from my personal site, on a different provider which has essays about SM as a spiritual path of sacred sexuality. The K-Goddess forum resides on that domain.

 I do briefly address the issues of consensuality, etc... for their sake,  but this course really is not SM oriented... and it is certainly not porn! :)  

 In places, I refer to BDSM slave/Master games, as a metaphor for turning your life over to the Divine path, and following the will of Goddess within yourself, instead of the will of ego. I find westerners can sometimes understand the concept more easily, through that metaphorical context.

My most recent site, Kundalini-teacher.com has similar content about the Kundalini process, but does not mention SM at all.  

 Like it says on the front page of this site:
Someone wrote to me today: "I have to admit I was a little taken aback when I learned you were a dominatrix and K awakened but I realised after watching what was going on that what you actually do is teach surrender to the Goddess and so it is clear to me now.  I have not come across this before!"

  I  seek to train students to become slaves to Goddess manifest within themselves, to the inner Guru that is their own spiritual guidance of the heart.  As Gandhi said, "The still small voice within, is the only tyrant I will accept."

  I teach surrender, which is the essence of the Kundalini path. To abandon the illusions of freedom that is ego, to recognise one's own helplessness in the face of Divine power, and to give yourself over to the will of Goddess. "Not my will, but Thine be done." To be a slave to Goddess within yourself, is to be truly free, the spiritual freedom the Buddha spoke of.

 The Buddha said, "life is suffering", yet most images of the Buddha show him laughing or deep in meditation... not suffering at all! How to get from a place of suffering to a place of joy and meditative bliss... is Fire Serpent Tantra! Surrender to the Goddess, as a slave to a Master or a devotee to a Guru.

Is that clearer?


: Hello Mystress,

: For last few days I have tried to understand BDSM lesson at FST.
: Very hard lesson for me.
: BDSM is something new for me.
: As an eastern, it is very difficult to understand the relationship between spiritual path and BDSM.

: I already read your page, ref: introduction to angelique.
: I also have limited belief of how a spiritual person should behave.
: But I'm not resistant, I'm ready for a new idea.

: Pro-Dom & BDSM, (as usually found in adult site), first time make me a little shock, but finally give me another spiritual perspective.
: In order to find more BDSM information, I already join K-Goddess forum.

: I am still confuse.

: What is the goal of role play & responsibility lesson ?
: could you explain me that goals with eastern background or maybe with budhis term / background ?

:
: Thank you.

:      






Sabrina

 How to get from a place of suffering to a place of joy and meditative bliss... is Fire Serpent Tantra!

Hey Mystress,

I got a nice energy rush up my spine when I read that...thanks for the reminder!

Sabrina




noer1


Yes, that is the answer.
Now, I understand that lesson.
Thank you very much.

: Well, the answer is, don't worry about it.
It is not about you, move onto the next lesson. Re-reading the lesson, I can see how you might get confused, and so probably I will rewrite it at some point, to make it clearer. Thanks for the feedback!

:   Some of the students of the course have a background in BDSM, and are drawn to me because of that,.. drawn from my personal site, on a different provider which has essays about SM as a spiritual path of sacred sexuality. The K-Goddess forum resides on that domain.

:   I do briefly address the issues of consensuality, etc... for their sake,  but this course really is not SM oriented... and it is certainly not porn! :)  

:   In places, I refer to BDSM slave/Master games, as a metaphor for turning your life over to the Divine path, and following the will of Goddess within yourself, instead of the will of ego. I find westerners can sometimes understand the concept more easily, through that metaphorical context.

:  My most recent site, Kundalini-teacher.com has similar content about the Kundalini process, but does not mention SM at all.  

:   Like it says on the front page of this site:
: Someone wrote to me today: "I have to admit I was a little taken aback when I learned you were a dominatrix and K awakened but I realised after watching what was going on that what you actually do is teach surrender to the Goddess and so it is clear to me now.  I have not come across this before!"

:    I  seek to train students to become slaves to Goddess manifest within themselves, to the inner Guru that is their own spiritual guidance of the heart.  As Gandhi said, "The still small voice within, is the only tyrant I will accept."

:    I teach surrender, which is the essence of the Kundalini path. To abandon the illusions of freedom that is ego, to recognise one's own helplessness in the face of Divine power, and to give yourself over to the will of Goddess. "Not my will, but Thine be done." To be a slave to Goddess within yourself, is to be truly free, the spiritual freedom the Buddha spoke of.

:   The Buddha said, "life is suffering", yet most images of the Buddha show him laughing or deep in meditation... not suffering at all! How to get from a place of suffering to a place of joy and meditative bliss... is Fire Serpent Tantra! Surrender to the Goddess, as a slave to a Master or a devotee to a Guru.

: Is that clearer?

:  


:
: : Hello Mystress,

: : For last few days I have tried to understand BDSM lesson at FST.
: : Very hard lesson for me.
: : BDSM is something new for me.
: : As an eastern, it is very difficult to understand the relationship between spiritual path and BDSM.

: : I already read your page, ref: introduction to angelique.
: : I also have limited belief of how a spiritual person should behave.
: : But I'm not resistant, I'm ready for a new idea.

: : Pro-Dom & BDSM, (as usually found in adult site), first time make me a little shock, but finally give me another spiritual perspective.
: : In order to find more BDSM information, I already join K-Goddess forum.

: : I am still confuse.

: : What is the goal of role play & responsibility lesson ?
: : could you explain me that goals with eastern background or maybe with budhis term / background ?

: :
: : Thank you.

: :      






noer1

Yes, that is the answer.
Now, I understand that lesson
Thank you vey much.

: Well, the answer is, don't worry about it. It is not about you, move onto the next lesson. Re-reading the lesson, I can see how you might get confused, and so probably I will rewrite it at some point, to make it clearer. Thanks for the feedback!

:   Some of the students of the course have a background in BDSM, and are drawn to me because of that,.. drawn from my personal site, on a different provider which has essays about SM as a spiritual path of sacred sexuality. The K-Goddess forum resides on that domain.

:   I do briefly address the issues of consensuality, etc... for their sake,  but this course really is not SM oriented... and it is certainly not porn! :)  

:   In places, I refer to BDSM slave/Master games, as a metaphor for turning your life over to the Divine path, and following the will of Goddess within yourself, instead of the will of ego. I find westerners can sometimes understand the concept more easily, through that metaphorical context.

:  My most recent site, Kundalini-teacher.com has similar content about the Kundalini process, but does not mention SM at all.  

:   Like it says on the front page of this site:
: Someone wrote to me today: "I have to admit I was a little taken aback when I learned you were a dominatrix and K awakened but I realised after watching what was going on that what you actually do is teach surrender to the Goddess and so it is clear to me now.  I have not come across this before!"

:    I  seek to train students to become slaves to Goddess manifest within themselves, to the inner Guru that is their own spiritual guidance of the heart.  As Gandhi said, "The still small voice within, is the only tyrant I will accept."

:    I teach surrender, which is the essence of the Kundalini path. To abandon the illusions of freedom that is ego, to recognise one's own helplessness in the face of Divine power, and to give yourself over to the will of Goddess. "Not my will, but Thine be done." To be a slave to Goddess within yourself, is to be truly free, the spiritual freedom the Buddha spoke of.

:   The Buddha said, "life is suffering", yet most images of the Buddha show him laughing or deep in meditation... not suffering at all! How to get from a place of suffering to a place of joy and meditative bliss... is Fire Serpent Tantra! Surrender to the Goddess, as a slave to a Master or a devotee to a Guru.

: Is that clearer?

:  


:
: : Hello Mystress,

: : For last few days I have tried to understand BDSM lesson at FST.
: : Very hard lesson for me.
: : BDSM is something new for me.
: : As an eastern, it is very difficult to understand the relationship between spiritual path and BDSM.

: : I already read your page, ref: introduction to angelique.
: : I also have limited belief of how a spiritual person should behave.
: : But I'm not resistant, I'm ready for a new idea.

: : Pro-Dom & BDSM, (as usually found in adult site), first time make me a little shock, but finally give me another spiritual perspective.
: : In order to find more BDSM information, I already join K-Goddess forum.

: : I am still confuse.

: : What is the goal of role play & responsibility lesson ?
: : could you explain me that goals with eastern background or maybe with budhis term / background ?

: :
: : Thank you.

: :