Hello everybody,

I am having some weird and wonderful experiences I would like to share. I feel so many changes taking place in my life!! It is a wonderful process, but I feel sad because I am leaving things behind that used to be important to me, and aren't so much anymore. Kind of feeling a bit of guilt because I feel like I am abandoning my loved ones in order to move into a higher vibration of living.

I've been doing the grounding ritual not the prescribed eight times a day because of a lot of bullshit ego reasons. Fear, doubt, letting other things take priority, etc. And I had noticed that the grounding ritual was not working for me as well as other things, like singing, writing, focusing on loving  my pain, surrendering stuff to be transmuted, etc. Not realizing that these things were also grounding!! But I spent a lot of time resisting doing the grounding, for silly reasons.

And lately I have been experiencing the unusual chaos mentioned by others. I let go of my boyfriend, friendships, my apartment, school, while other things are coming back to me, like my relationship with my mother. I am k-awakened, and she is Pentecostal, and we are finding common ground and embracing love once again for each other!! It is good. She has done so many cruel and hurtful things to me in the past, and so many times I was ready to disown her. But an inner voice told me not to, and I am glad I didn't. We are talking about spiritual stuff, and not arguing now that I have learned to communicate in her language. And I have learned that you can get your point across a lot better when you speak to people in their own language. Kind of unnerving.

During the most recent chaos and turbulence of my life, I could not get grounded; I needed catharsis. The only thing that helped was putting on my Tea Party CD with Middle Eastern, sexual belly-dancing type music. BTW, I find their CD Alhambra very good for awakening the kundalini, and k seems to rise in respond to the vibration and tempo of certain songs. Actually, as I posted in the past, I only had a vague idea of what kundalini was before my awakening. And then one day a friend and I were listening to the Tea Party and I said for some reason 'Makes the kundalini rise, doesn't it? What the heck is kundalini, anyway?' And went on the web and found www.domin8rex.com. Anyway, I digress. I'm getting wrapped up in synchronicity here!! 'Cause I remember hearing the song Inanna by the Tea Party, falling in love with their music, and embracing Inanna as a patron goddess. And experiencing the classic Descent of Inanna throughout various seasonal energy patterns.

Anyway, back to my point. I was stressed, and put on my Tea Party CD. And for the first time in my k-process, my spine started doing the classical movements; arching, wriggling like a snake, uncontrollable movements that produced ecstasy in my heart and solar plexus. Sexual tantric feelings of bliss and arousal. And now I'm finding the the grounding has become highly sexual and ecstatic, like my chakras are orgasming, and I'm getting frequently blissed out and endorphinated!
And now that the chaos has died down, I am doing my best to do the grounding several times a day. And now I really, really like doing the grounding!! It's better than sex; actually it feels like what I have been seeking all my life from sex.Almost like the Sun God and the Mother Goddess are fucking me, and each other through me. It's wonderful!! I think my surrender was blocked because I needed to surrender myself sexually to the Great Above and Great Below.....I wasn't fully surrendering my body to the grounding, and missing out on the ecstasy.

One day I did the grounding, and it felt like almost a full-body orgasm. And then after I blissed out for a bit, enjoying the endorphins, I started giggling from happiness uncontrollably. But then a thought hit me like a rush of water; I am moving into a new life, and there are things I will leave behind me as I flow into a new vibration. Loved ones, places, ideas, friends......and I started to cry. But.....I am surrendering that sadness to Gaia, and accepting what Is. And I am seeing the death archetype here and there. And I am also seeing visions of my ex-boyfriends corpse, and it seems to be wanting something from me. I know it means that things are changing in our relationship, and that he is still looking for something from me, and I am letting God/dess sort out all the rest of it, and getting comfortable with seeing images of Death around me.

Another thought I had was that I have been producing amrita for a long time. And my body went off into full-gallop k-fire heart orgasm tears of joy bliss. Yay!! Here's a vulgar question; does amrita ever taste like sweet semen? I swear to gods, that's the taste I have been getting from the back of my throat towards the top. Spirituality is becoming overhwlemingly sexual for me.

And I feel like I am being introduced to the world of Faerie somehow. That I am moving into a vibration of being where the Fey live. And remembering what Mystress told me once, that an energy which I believed to be my DB feels more like a bent fey to her (I think that's what you said, Mystress. Correct me if I am wrong) Seems I have been desperately trying to put form to my DB, instead of waiting for one to manifest. Waiting for God/dess to show me what to do for these entities, doing entities clearings and waiting to see if there is further work left for me to do, or if I am feeling these energies as memories only, and not as entities manifest in the present.

So...life is becoming weird and wonderful!! And I am having a lot of experiences I would like to talk about, but am hesitant to. I know this is a tantra course, and I know we have a k-sex list, but I am feeling the urge to talk about sexual things that are scary to some. I am wanting to talk about things that are downright perverted, depraved, BDSM and kink-related - conversations which I kinda feel might frighten people on the k-lists. Perhaps I am wrong about this. But....I do not want to stomp on anyone's boundaries.   I remember the old k-goddess list, and find myself wishing it was still there, because I would be comfortable discussing such things on that list. Wondering if I should set up a new list like it!! A list where people can be as graphic and perverted as they please without fear of hostility. I feel like the old k-godess list was such a place, and I was sad when it had to be taken down.

On that note, I realized recently how much I really, really like pain. Pain breaks me open and takes me outside of myself and my ego....and I enjoy waiting for God/dess to replace the shattered fragments. I think that my arthritis and my relationships have been a fulfillment of this....my needs being met unconsciously because I was not aware that intense pain was a need for me. I always viewed pain as an annoyance and inconvenience. And now I am learning that bliss can be found through pain. Of course, since this realization, I have noticed I am clumsier than usual and am having more painful 'accidents.' Banging my hands off stuff, mostly. Ouch! Time to get grounded and focus on my hands. And wait for God/dess to send me BDSM partners.....there seem to be a couple of play partners looming on the horizon, maybe. Maybe not. We'll see.

So....does anyone think it would be a good idea to open up a new kundalini list for the depraved like me? *grins* I think it's high time fetishes stopped being disgusting and shocking, and embraced for their beauty. At least for me. Hee hee....I have stopped calling myself bisexual, and now think of myself as pansexual......ironic, as Pan likes to pop by now and again to have sex with me. I do so enjoy Pan and his merry little band of satyrs.....

Sabrina

  Great post, Sabrina!

: Hello everybody,

: I am having some weird and wonderful experiences I would like to share. I feel so many changes taking place in my life!! It is a wonderful process, but I feel sad because I am leaving things behind that used to be important to me, and aren't so much anymore. Kind of feeling a bit of guilt because I feel like I am abandoning my loved ones in order to move into a higher vibration of living.

Yeah, I know what you mean. You cannot live your life for another, and surrendering guilt helps make the transition easier. Serve Goddess and have none before!

: I've been doing the grounding ritual not the prescribed eight times a day because of a lot of bullshit ego reasons. Fear, doubt, letting other things take priority, etc. And I had noticed that the grounding ritual was not working for me as well as other things, like singing, writing, focusing on loving  my pain, surrendering stuff to be transmuted, etc. Not realizing that these things were also grounding!!

Yep!

:But I spent a lot of time resisting doing the grounding, for silly reasons.

: And lately I have been experiencing the unusual chaos mentioned by others.

Not mentioned here... The transition from April to May was a painful and ecstatic personal transition for a lot of folks... the energy seems higher, eh?

:We are talking about spiritual stuff, and not arguing now that I have learned to communicate in her language. And I have learned that you can get your point across a lot better when you speak to people in their own language. Kind of unnerving.

Yup. I do that... It is another form of surrender. Not forcing your terminology onto another, makes for greater harmony and communication. After all, words fail to communicate the vasteness of the All, but the essence of spirit is universal.

: During the most recent chaos and turbulence of my life, I could not get grounded; I needed catharsis. The only thing that helped was putting on my Tea Party CD with Middle Eastern, sexual belly-dancing type music. BTW, I find their CD Alhambra very good for awakening the kundalini, and k seems to rise in respond to the vibration and tempo of certain songs. Actually, as I posted in the past, I only had a vague idea of what kundalini was before my awakening. And then one day a friend and I were listening to the Tea Party and I said for some reason 'Makes the kundalini rise, doesn't it? What the heck is kundalini, anyway?' And went on the web and found www.domin8rex.com. Anyway, I digress. I'm getting wrapped up in synchronicity here!! 'Cause I remember hearing the song Inanna by the Tea Party, falling in love with their music, and embracing Inanna as a patron goddess. And experiencing the classic Descent of Inanna throughout various seasonal energy patterns.

The Kundalini-gateway.org site has a nice cybrary of music people have found to make the snakes dance. Music can be very powerful.

: Anyway, back to my point. I was stressed, and put on my Tea Party CD. And for the first time in my k-process, my spine started doing the classical movements; arching, wriggling like a snake, uncontrollable movements that produced ecstasy in my heart and solar plexus. Sexual tantric feelings of bliss and arousal. And now I'm finding the the grounding has become highly sexual and ecstatic, like my chakras are orgasming, and I'm getting frequently blissed out and endorphinated!
: And now that the chaos has died down, I am doing my best to do the grounding several times a day. And now I really, really like doing the grounding!! It's better than sex; actually it feels like what I have been seeking all my life from sex.Almost like the Sun God and the Mother Goddess are fucking me, and each other through me.

The Grad ritual of this course, is similar...

:It's wonderful!! I think my surrender was blocked because I needed to surrender myself sexually to the Great Above and Great Below.....I wasn't fully surrendering my body to the grounding, and missing out on the ecstasy.

: One day I did the grounding, and it felt like almost a full-body orgasm. And then after I blissed out for a bit, enjoying the endorphins, I started giggling from happiness uncontrollably. But then a thought hit me like a rush of water; I am moving into a new life, and there are things I will leave behind me as I flow into a new vibration. Loved ones, places, ideas, friends......and I started to cry. But.....I am surrendering that sadness to Gaia, and accepting what Is. And I am seeing the death archetype here and there. And I am also seeing visions of my ex-boyfriends corpse, and it seems to be wanting something from me. I know it means that things are changing in our relationship, and that he is still looking for something from me, and I am letting God/dess sort out all the rest of it, and getting comfortable with seeing images of Death around me.

Cool!

: Another thought I had was that I have been producing amrita for a long time. And my body went off into full-gallop k-fire heart orgasm tears of joy bliss. Yay!! Here's a vulgar question; does amrita ever taste like sweet semen? I swear to gods, that's the taste I have been getting from the back of my throat towards the top. Spirituality is becoming overhwlemingly sexual for me.

Well, I have not tasted semen in about 20 years... so I dunno. Amitra tastes sweet, and salty both. It has a consistency like semen. Goopy transparent jellyfish stuff that you can break up with your tongue and make more liquid. It is also slightly alkaline, and can make your throat feel kind of sore and raw, till you get used to it.

: And I feel like I am being introduced to the world of Faerie somehow. That I am moving into a vibration of being where the Fey live. And remembering what Mystress told me once, that an energy which I believed to be my DB feels more like a bent fey to her (I think that's what you said, Mystress. Correct me if I am wrong) Seems I have been desperately trying to put form to my DB, instead of waiting for one to manifest.

Yeah, that can be hazardous. Forcing the DB to manifest is not surrender... it often results in attracting an entity who impersonates the DB. I am going to have to write an essay clarifying that... no good, trusting an impostor.

:Waiting for God/dess to show me what to do for these entities, doing entities clearings and waiting to see if there is further work left for me to do, or if I am feeling these energies as memories only, and not as entities manifest in the present.

Did you ask your Guardian Angel to not allow any entities near you unless they are in service to the Light, and your highest good?

: So...life is becoming weird and wonderful!! And I am having a lot of experiences I would like to talk about, but am hesitant to. I know this is a tantra course, and I know we have a k-sex list, but I am feeling the urge to talk about sexual things that are scary to some. I am wanting to talk about things that are downright perverted, depraved, BDSM and kink-related - conversations which I kinda feel might frighten people on the k-lists. Perhaps I am wrong about this. But....I do not want to stomp on anyone's boundaries.   I remember the old k-goddess list, and find myself wishing it was still there, because I would be comfortable discussing such things on that list.

Yahoo deleted it... but I'll be setting up a new one soon, once I find a nice list program for the server domin8rex.com is on. The server this course is on does not allow adult content, they approved this course but I don't want to push things.
 In the meantime, you can write about it here. If some students are offended, then they will know they have some issues to clear! Add a content warning to the subject line, if you like.

: Wondering if I should set up a new list like it!! A list where people can be as graphic and perverted as they please without fear of hostility. I feel like the old k-godess list was such a place, and I was sad when it had to be taken down.

Do what you feel... I'd suggest not using yahoo, though.

: On that note, I realized recently how much I really, really like pain. Pain breaks me open and takes me outside of myself and my ego....and I enjoy waiting for God/dess to replace the shattered fragments. I think that my arthritis and my relationships have been a fulfillment of this....my needs being met unconsciously because I was not aware that intense pain was a need for me.

That is an amazing insight! Congrats!

:I always viewed pain as an annoyance and inconvenience. And now I am learning that bliss can be found through pain. Of course, since this realization, I have noticed I am clumsier than usual and am having more painful 'accidents.'

Sabrina... awhile ago, you mentioned music in your head, on the K-list. Music *can* be a communication from the DB, but having music in your head full-time is symptomatic of being stuck in a hypnotic trance. Hypnosis is a useful tool for getting info from your unconscious, but being entranced full time is not wise or healty. I have noticed you are unusually suggestible... I wrote about my slave being accident prone as a way to get unconscious endorphin needs met, on K-list and now you are having accidents. I have noticed it with other things too... I write about something and you apply it to yourself, whether it fits, or not. You are way too suggestible!

SABRINA!! WAKE UP~~!!!

:Banging my hands off stuff, mostly. Ouch! Time to get grounded and focus on my hands. And wait for God/dess to send me BDSM partners.....there seem to be a couple of play partners looming on the horizon, maybe. Maybe not. We'll see.

Don't be in a hurry to find a new relationship. Rebound affairs are seldom lasting or enjoyable. Focus on your relationship with Goddess, and with yourself. (Your Self.)

 Blessings!

... I feel sad because I am leaving things behind that used to be important to me, and aren't so much anymore. Kind of feeling a bit of guilt because I feel like I am abandoning my loved ones in order to move into a higher vibration of living.

: Yeah, I know what you mean. You cannot live your life for another, and surrendering guilt helps make the transition easier. Serve Goddess and have none before!

That is the plan. Guilt is a wasted emotion. I also had to surrender the idea that enlightenment meants giving up all of my old life. Enlightenment isn't always like that! I know there are things I will have to surrender, and possibly loved ones, but it doesn't necessarily mean leaving everything behind.....just the attachments, and the things that are not in God/dess' will for me.

: : I've been doing the grounding ritual not the prescribed eight times a day because of a lot of bullshit ego reasons.. Not realizing that these things were also grounding!!

I'm also starting to see what ungrounds me!! Resistance, fear and judgement are the big ones.

: : And lately I have been experiencing the unusual chaos mentioned by others.

: Not mentioned here... The transition from April to May was a painful and ecstatic personal transition for a lot of folks... the energy seems higher, eh?

The energy is MUCH higher. And things are starting to flow much better for me. I am starting to feel more natural and in the moment. Spring is usually my biggest time of manifestation and growth anyhow....surrender is harder for me during the fall and winter. I have to constantly surrender my fear of winter.....Newfoundland is a lot like Narnia during the reign of the White Witch.....perpetually cold and snowy.

: Yup. I do that... It is another form of surrender. Not forcing your terminology onto another, makes for greater harmony and communication. After all, words fail to communicate the vasteness of the All, but the essence of spirit is universal.

Yeah, words are tricky. And I tend to be too wordy, and talk too much. I realized lately I have a fear of being silent because I have a lot of ego judgements about quiet people being boring, timid, having self-esteem issues, etc. Which is what I was told when I was a quiet, introverted child. And then there are other times when I am afraid to say what's on my mind. It's hard to find a middle path with communication sometimes.

It's better than sex; actually it feels like what I have been seeking all my life from sex.Almost like the Sun God and the Mother Goddess are fucking me, and each other through me.

: The Grad ritual of this course, is similar...

I have heard hints of this on the k-list. I enjoy the sexual union with the God and Goddess....but it is harder to accept the tantric union with other things and people. I keep surrendering a lot of guilt attached to this. Funny story; my friend brought to school a collection of beachrocks her boyfriend had collected for her. And I picked them up and had a sort of energy orgasm! My back arched, my breathing accelerated, and I felt ecstatic. I could feel the pounding of the surf, and the sand under my toes, and the sun on the sand. It was kind of embarassing!! Fortunately, my friends are used to my eccentric behaviour, so they didn't think much of it.

: Well, I have not tasted semen in about 20 years... so I dunno. Amitra tastes sweet, and salty both. It has a consistency like semen. Goopy transparent jellyfish stuff that you can break up with your tongue and make more liquid. It is also slightly alkaline, and can make your throat feel kind of sore and raw, till you get used to it.

I see....I still don't know if it is amrita, but it does not matter. My body responded to the thought with k-fire, so I'm sure there was something in the thought, and that it will become clear in time. I am trying not to get too caught up in the psychic and material phenomenon of kundalini, and to just watch these things pass through me.It also helps me to accept these phenemonon as natural, and nothing too extraordinary. Reminds me to be humble. I get a lot of choking kriyas. So far the doctors haven't found a cause for it, though they have told me I can get surgery to move my jaw forward to free up my breathing passages. I am not able to break the fluid with my tongue, as there are only trace amounts of fluid that almost immediately go down my throat.

:
: : And I feel like I am being introduced to the world of Faerie somehow. That I am moving into a vibration of being where the Fey live. And remembering what Mystress told me once, that an energy which I believed to be my DB feels more like a bent fey to her (I think that's what you said, Mystress. Correct me if I am wrong) Seems I have been desperately trying to put form to my DB, instead of waiting for one to manifest.

: Yeah, that can be hazardous. Forcing the DB to manifest is not surrender... it often results in attracting an entity who impersonates the DB. I am going to have to write an essay clarifying that... no good, trusting an impostor.

I think I have been attracting entities to me!! When I was Wiccan, I was very caught up in ghosts, astral travel, psychic powers, etc. Which opened a link for entities to aproach me. I have also been attracting entities because I fear attracting entities. Surrendering that fear....focusing more on love and trust and faith. Since my ex moved out, i have been experiencing awful night terrors, which is nothing new for me. I have been afraid of the dark, and things that go bump in the night ever since I can remember.

: :Waiting for God/dess to show me what to do for these entities, doing entities clearings and waiting to see if there is further work left for me to do, or if I am feeling these energies as memories only, and not as entities manifest in the present.

: Did you ask your Guardian Angel to not allow any entities near you unless they are in service to the Light, and your highest good?

Yes, I did.....and caught myself trying to see what my Guardian Angels look like!! Forcing Spirit into a manifestation again!! But I trust that entities within me and near me are in my highest good. I do keep seeing the same ones around me though. One looks like a gnome, one resembles Mercury, and the other one looks like a tree spirit. I have surrendered them many times, but since I keep sensing them, I suppose I should do some detective work and let God/dess show me how to deal with them? Or it is possible they are not entities...I don't feel them inside my body, but outside, in my aura or outside my aura. They seem linked somehow to my childhood, or events from the past. They may also be linked to my desires to consort with faeries and to live in a fantasy world. Also, I used to be convinced I was really a faerie changling, so perhaps I attracted them to me that way!! And I am seeing images of children and babies a lot lately. Time to do some work on my inner child, maybe?

:   In the meantime, you can write about it here. If some students are offended, then they will know they have some issues to clear! Add a content warning to the subject line, if you like.

Then I will do that when the Spirit moves me.

: : On that note, I realized recently how much I really, really like pain. Pain breaks me open and takes me outside of myself and my ego....and I enjoy waiting for God/dess to replace the shattered fragments. I think that my arthritis and my relationships have been a fulfillment of this....my needs being met unconsciously because I was not aware that intense pain was a need for me.

: That is an amazing insight! Congrats!

Yeah, and I think I have been confusing masochism with submissiveness as well. It's becoming clear to me that I'm not as passive as I thought I was, that my submissiveness was more of co-dependency issue. At this point, I can only say for certain that I am a masochist. We'll see about the other letters in BDSM, and how they relate to me!!

: Sabrina... awhile ago, you mentioned music in your head, on the K-list. Music *can* be a communication from the DB, but having music in your head full-time is symptomatic of being stuck in a hypnotic trance.

Wow...when i read this, k-fire exploded in my brain and all around my head!! And so many things came up with it..so many bits of my Shadow came up to be embraced and integrated. I had a rough couple of days!! Lots of dreams about being beaten up...symbolic of beating myself up!!

Hypnosis is a useful tool for getting info from your unconscious, but being entranced full time is not wise or healty. I have noticed you are unusually suggestible... I wrote about my slave being accident prone as a way to get unconscious endorphin needs met, on K-list and now you are having accidents. I have noticed it with other things too... I write about something and you apply it to yourself, whether it fits, or not. You are way too suggestible!

I noticed it too...didn't know what to make of it. It happens to me a lot. When I admire someone, or look up to them, I find myself 'trying on their clothes', so to speak. Maybe it's time to stop wearing clothes!!! And I often find myself looking for explanations for stuff, and going with the one I like best. The explanation that sounds most fantastical to me. I am still banging my left hand more frequently, and seeing images of a leash attached to my palm during meditation. I don't know what it means yet, and am trying not to obsess about it, and let the message unfold.

I have a feeling that if I am perpetually in hypnotic trance, it has something to do with my desire to escape the mundane world, and escape to a fantasy world. I noticed some time ago that I live in my head, and in my dreams and fantasies too much. Perhaps I have somehow made myself insensible to the world around me by trying to escape it? Would this cause fragments of my ego to dive into the unconscious, and thus leave me open to suggestion?

This is the first time I have heard of the idea of a perpetual hypnotic trance. Out of curiosity, what would cause this? I have never deliberately attempted to hypnotize myself. Do you know any other symptoms besides hearing music full-time? And how would one go about breaking the habit? Sorry to ask so many questions.....I am very befuddled about this!! I feel there is something that is eluding me here, something obvious that I am missing.

:

SABRINA!! WAKE UP~~!!!

If I had a dollar for every time I've heard that.......

: Don't be in a hurry to find a new relationship. Rebound affairs are seldom lasting or enjoyable. Focus on your relationship with Goddess, and with yourself. (Your Self.)

I am SOO not in a hurry for a new relationship. There are always people willing to indulge in BDSM scenes with me.....but I am not ready!! Acknowledging my desires is enough for me at this point.

On that note, I tend to fall in love a lot, and develop infatuations with people. And I'm starting to realize that whatever I'm falling in love with something within them, it is something I do not see in myself. So..now when I develop crushes on people, I try to find the aspects of them that are within me, and fall in love with that!!

I surrendered another big fear tonight. I have had a lot of friends wanting to do healing with me lately. But I was afraid to because I thought I would get too much of their karmic junk. But tonight I did a brief healing session with a friend of mine, for maybe ten minutes or so. And I kept surrendering, and surrendering, and surrendering......and found myself quickly falling into bliss and light. It was great!! We both felt better..and I realized that healing can accelerate when done between two people with love and trust and surrender. Empathy doesn't seem to have such a negative effect when done from a grounded state, and through the heart.

Sabrina

[See my response appended below...]

: : Another thought I had was that I have been producing amrita for a long time. And my body went off into full-gallop k-fire heart orgasm tears of joy bliss. Yay!! Here's a vulgar question; does amrita ever taste like sweet semen? I swear to gods, that's the taste I have been getting from the back of my throat towards the top. Spirituality is becoming overhwlemingly sexual for me.

: Well, I have not tasted semen in about 20 years... so I dunno. Amitra tastes sweet, and salty both. It has a consistency like semen. Goopy transparent jellyfish stuff that you can break up with your tongue and make more liquid. It is also slightly alkaline, and can make your throat feel kind of sore and raw, till you get used to it.

The Gheranda Samhita is a classical treatise on Hatha Yoga and is available from many online bookshops. In particular it describes Khecari Mudra.  The Khecari Mudra is a very advanced technique.  It requires the supervision of a Yoga Master.

The benefits are stated as follows:

[3.28]  By this practice there is neither fainting, nor hunger, nor thirst, nor laziness.  There comes neither disease, nor decay, nor death.  The body becomes divine.

[3.29]  The body cannot be burned by fire, nor dried up by air, nor wetted by water, nor bitten by snakes

[3.30]  The body becomes beautiful; Samadhi is attained, and the tongue touching the holes in the roof of the mouth obtains various juices, and eventually drinks nectar.

[3.31-32]  Various juices being produced, day by day the Yogi experiences new sensations: first, a saltish taste, then alkaline, then bitter, then astringent, then butter, then ghee, then milk, then curds, then whey, then honey, then palm juice, and lastly arises the taste of nectar.

A less drastic alternative to the classical Khecari Mudra is to gently massage the tongue and the Frenum Lingui using a thin cloth (like muslin) soaked in water or milk.  This is recommended by my Yoga Masters, and this can be done without supervision.

Let me know if the above explanation was useful to you.

I have just done about two or three hours of an intricately combined/interspered Yoga session and spontaneous Kundalini Shakti snake dance.  This was assisted by various types of music: Indian classical and Trance Goa (at www.mp3.com).

Bhavin
TheYogaMan

• http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bhavin.desai/yoga/">The Yoga of Swami Dev Murti Ji

Bhavin:
   Most Fire Serpent Tantra students attain the nectar, without doing the mudra, or trying to attain it in any way. It just starts dripping down the back of the throat. Goddess provides.
   Blessings...

: [See my response appended below...]

: : : Another thought I had was that I have been producing amrita for a long time. And my body went off into full-gallop k-fire heart orgasm tears of joy bliss. Yay!! Here's a vulgar question; does amrita ever taste like sweet semen? I swear to gods, that's the taste I have been getting from the back of my throat towards the top. Spirituality is becoming overhwlemingly sexual for me.

: : Well, I have not tasted semen in about 20 years... so I dunno. Amitra tastes sweet, and salty both. It has a consistency like semen. Goopy transparent jellyfish stuff that you can break up with your tongue and make more liquid. It is also slightly alkaline, and can make your throat feel kind of sore and raw, till you get used to it.

: The Gheranda Samhita is a classical treatise on Hatha Yoga and is available from many online bookshops. In particular it describes Khecari Mudra.  The Khecari Mudra is a very advanced technique.  It requires the supervision of a Yoga Master.

: The benefits are stated as follows:

: [3.28]  By this practice there is neither fainting, nor hunger, nor thirst, nor laziness.  There comes neither disease, nor decay, nor death.  The body becomes divine.

: [3.29]  The body cannot be burned by fire, nor dried up by air, nor wetted by water, nor bitten by snakes

: [3.30]  The body becomes beautiful; Samadhi is attained, and the tongue touching the holes in the roof of the mouth obtains various juices, and eventually drinks nectar.

: [3.31-32]  Various juices being produced, day by day the Yogi experiences new sensations: first, a saltish taste, then alkaline, then bitter, then astringent, then butter, then ghee, then milk, then curds, then whey, then honey, then palm juice, and lastly arises the taste of nectar.

: A less drastic alternative to the classical Khecari Mudra is to gently massage the tongue and the Frenum Lingui using a thin cloth (like muslin) soaked in water or milk.  This is recommended by my Yoga Masters, and this can be done without supervision.

: Let me know if the above explanation was useful to you.

: I have just done about two or three hours of an intricately combined/interspered Yoga session and spontaneous Kundalini Shakti snake dance.  This was assisted by various types of music: Indian classical and Trance Goa (at www.mp3.com).

: Bhavin
: TheYogaMan

: Bhavin:
:     Most Fire Serpent Tantra students attain the nectar, without doing the mudra, or trying to attain it in any way. It just starts dripping down the back of the throat. Goddess provides.
:     Blessings...

Yes, the Khecari Mudra is not necessary for the Amrita/Nectar, which can happen completely naturally.  The information that I provided was to address Sabrina's question about the taste(s) of the nectar.  I thought that providing one of the technical (?) contexts in which nectar manifests would perhaps be more generally useful to the group.