Physical Manifestations

[WillyT]

  Hello all, I have a question...do entities have the ability to make things or animals manifest into the physical...I had a small snake manifest at my doorstep just seconds after accepting something about myself...

Any info will help
thanks

[Pete]

WillyT,

I've been taught and am of the opinion that we create our own reality.  If you give your divinity to an entity, then the entity may have limited power within your reality.  However, that doesn't seem to be the case here.  If what Mystress has said in other tea room posts, "change the world by changing inside of yourself", is true...then we do in fact create our own reality.  We are inseparable from our reality. 

It seems that the snake synchronicity may have come because you changed inside yourself.  In my own perceptual reality, external conditions sometimes change instantaneously in response to inner work.  In many cases, it helps me to think that the external reality is illusory, only a collection of transient appearance.  That helps me to remove any attitude of self-importance that may arise.  If these things are appearances, then there remains nothing to which one may attach.

warm regards,
Pete

[WillyT]

i share many of the ideas that you have most have come as a result of personal experience thanks for your input...i will take it in... and see if it fits When you talk about illusion and the outside world since we are all perhaps we create everything for ourselves even the illusion to get consciousness to evolve?

[Pete]

I think you may be right in your statement, but I am not aware of having realized the changeless reality.  That tells me that I am obscuring my own awareness.  It doesn't further anything to delude myself with book knowledge about consciousness.  Therefore, I choose to do the work of surrendering the obfuscations and karma that I have created until the realization is there, present and stable.  I can't speak for her, but I think that Mystress uses the word 'surrender' so much because the process seems to be more of a relaxing into the awareness than attaining something that is not there already.

[juergen]

In the K-Primer, Mystress says, that 'Ascended Masters' have the ability to manifest fully into 3d-time; the small snake was perhaps one of them to gratulate you for that acceptance you mention; they(A.M.) seem also to appear a lot in fairy tales.
Little children do sometimes make spontaneous discoverys of a kind when it is hard to tell who jumped towards whom
Illusion has at the moment the following meaning for me: the frequent or exclusive attitude in natural science and its associated world, to define spirit by the material world and all the stubborn rigidity(seeing perfection not in change, but in a final state), which naturally follows from it.

Btw, how may ever the snakes rise within us fully if we don't accept them fully
I guess this is certainly a meaningful event in your evolvement

just what came to the mind,

Juergen

[juergen]

Pete we posted "simultaneously", and it struck me at once that you are speaking of changeless reality, as i did.
Had to read Willy's post again to get a handle on it.
Now it's clear: if conciousness-evolve is an illusion, indeed reality might appear changeless; but what about his statement: "since we are all perhaps we create everything for ourselves", which is again a confession to reality-change?

Hey Willy can you resolve this

Juergen

[WillyT]

i made my statement with the assumption that consciousness evolves with awarness as we work our way to ego death and self realization. The shedding of masks and always being present in the essential self. Ive seen my reality change so i feel that by changing within you change your external reality...the synchronicities have shown and proven this for me personally...so im guessing if it has changed then perhaps reality can only change due to the evolution of the consciousness and awarness, if awarness and focus have the ability to make things grow then an evolving consciousness i think could make the reality change more quickly....at times it feels as though i was not present when the change occured happening very quickly. Perhaps i need to ground more...

[juergen]

Very stimulating article, Willy!

I think your accent on active change-acceleration is the very concern of this path.
It's better to return as quick as possible from fruitless explorations to the One and All Who owns us.( All Mine)

..And that this change is the evolution of the whole scale of consciousness beginning at the Void(pure consciousness/feminine essence) in a sequence of logical reflections from here.
Then the "shedding of masks" can bring us in touch with the "Couple-Self"(Void and Her immediate reflection the Godhead), gradually, involving us somehow in their messing about in love and harmony, which is at a constant change.
The Godhead seems to be the manifestion(light,matter) of the Unprecedented(Void), expression of Her Will, and as She manifests this through him, it is no longer unprecedented(but i guess She has always something in store no worry). So i explain that the Godhead is an entity of death; creativity dies by becoming manifest, and the by the manifestation he gives rise to even more creativity She produces and throws again onto the Godhead.
So the "Couple" seems to be about Will and Acceptance(or in more modern terms: D/s); these 2 kinds(kinks) of Love and the harmony of these Loves.

We seem to do this acceleration from the location of the veil/lens and its sphere of Selves(Ego, DB, Shadow Self and those i may omit for lack of insight) by becoming/making the lens more and more active/responsible instead of just shielding us like uninvolved "innocent" infants and potential victims.

Mystress has talked about an ego-death ritual, She does occasionally, maybe once a year or so, but warns against exaggeration; some of the ego stuff might be indeed who you are, and in a way it's our platform where we work from, where DB and Shadow self originate from.

And i think you are also right with grounding which seems to go hand in hand with the other work. I have experienced times of neglect, when it tended to become much of a routine and stagnation; my new attempt is with the version from 'Kundalini Teacher', having it printed out and following it literally...

kick my ass when i'm talking bullshit,

Juergen

[Mystress]

  Wow, what a thread..!! You are all brilliant.

   So where do I start? Willy, I am curious as to why your first thought was of entities.. but I think it is probably you are at that lesson and they are on your mind. Serpent is a Kundalini symbol, and seeing one is a YES from the universe and a positive affirmation.  Pete is right, do not give that power away to anything less.
  That is a big part of navigating the Chapel Perilous astral realms of power chakra opening, where critters live. 

  The power chakra and the third eye open together, to give you the doorway into the astral realm which has been called a classroom of dreams.. but it is really about experiences, decisions made and unmade, and the choice of love or fear.  It is stuffed full of creatures who want to be God for you.. or to persuade you, that they have power because if you believe it, then they do!!  It is a process of reclaiming your power back from the everywhere we give it away to, in order to give it back to Goddess.  Shortcut: see Goddess in them and love them and they explode.  If you are not able to do that successfully then that is why there is the Entity Clearing.

   As for change-accelleration.. hang on to your hat. There is a basic self preservation reason why it is good to have a silent mind, and in absence of that to keep surrendering whatever thoughts you do have, in order to avoid accidental manifestations. 

  Every thought is a prayer, and when you start to become mindful of your thoughts and exactly how much junk and noise goes on in your head.. the concept "be careful what you pray for" takes on a whole new meaning and you realize you are actually better off having no thoughts at all!!  If you can manage it. Me Hyperactive ADD woman with people asking me about stuff in my head all the time as well as my own noise...

  I was pulling out of a parking garage today and some guy in his SUV was stopped, partly blocking it and dropping off a passenger... I said out my window that it was not a good place to stop, blocking the road as with some difficulty I steered around him. The two people there got nasty quick and defensive. The last thing the guy yelled at me was "go to hell" and I said "been there, see you there soon!" which I thought rather witty as I really was not taking their spewing seriously at all. Telling me to go to hell is kind of redundant ya know?  I know the place so well I can work as a tour guide showing the way to the egress  
  Of course I surrendered it all after, especially the curse reflection lol..

  Most thoughts are just karma junk noise anyway. You are not your thoughts. However thought-word-deed is that the God is US.  Free Will is Goddess Law and She does not judge.  Goddess Provides.  Are you smart enough and omniscent enough and compassionate enough to be a God? You can spend a year training a monkey to fly the space shuttle, but in the end it is still a monkey.  It is not going to have a clue about what is going on and would really prefer to just hang in a tree and eat a banana anyway. 

  So reclaim your power. You are God of your own life with a free will power of manifestation... and the moment you claim it, quick as you can pass that hot potato onto the Infinite part of your mind which really IS omniscent and wise enough to do a good job of running your life and personal universe, and motivated because it loves you more than you can ever know. 

  As for, Just Being and not Doing... very worthwhile, but it takes a while to get the knack, eh?   To not be giving power to the entities and the thoughts and the emotions and all the stuff that is less than Infinite unconditional love and wisdom.  To let the thoughts drift by without reacting to them or arguing or judging them... ha.. good luck with that.. but the part that watches the thoughts without judging them... the part that you cannot watch, but only BE... IS your infinite self. 
  Then you are in the *state* of surrender and do not need another thing, being All.

  Cannot do that yet?  Well, then use your free will to surrender the thoughts and junk in every moment as it comes and gradually your mind gets quieter. 

  So many of these thoughts, like the concern about entities are just karma on the way out.. and it will slide out like warm butter if you just can stay out of the way and let it walk on by...

   We do not let the thoughts pass by without judgment.  We get involved. Feed the fear.  Give it Divine power to shape our personal reality by granting it the energy of belief that it is true.

  A shamans gift is a sense of alternate realities and the ability to see and navigate them when it serves to do so.  In an infinite universe, anything that can exist must exist at least as potential, some where, some when.. time and space also being illusion, please do not ask me to try to describe the when and where....   So there are an infinite number of You living an infinite number of different lifetimes simultaneously... and your thoughts and beliefs shape what particular aspect of that your spark of consciousness is oberving.  Changing your mind about something looks like jumping the tracks to a different reality tunnel.. and people do it all the time without even noticing. 

  We are born and die again in every moment. To see that truth is a Siddhi of the higher chakras that is gained when the lens of perception is cleared and the chakra petal opens to grant the insights.  The whole sense of growth in linearity is illusion...

  For Juergen, with your love for iconography:  The final frame of the movie 2001: a space oddysey and the image from revelations of the pregnant woman about to give birth and a dragon poised to devour the newborn child is that they are both snapshots frozen in eternity. 

  Ye seek the void: it is where you live.  You cannot ever escape the void, all exists in Shaktis womb, and the child within dreams the dragon outside, but there is no outside.  The dragon and the idea of "outside" are illusion, dreams. 

   The cosmic child, in the womb of the void, never born because nothing exists outside of that.. Void has no outside, it is infinite.   You never left the void, you are there always, dreaming this reality into existence.  The difference is the dream is becoming lucid.. you are becoming aware of being a God. You can do *anything*, create any reality and what to do with too many choices?

   The cosmic child, does not choose but lives them all... but you, the individual human spark of consciousness that puts on your shoes and socks, one at a time, but not in that order... ?

  If you set out to save the world then you are lost again, because you have forgotten it is not real and bought into a dream of a world in need of saving. Whenever you put belief in what is outside of yourself...

  However, this is a shamans perspective.  Don't try too hard to understand it because it will turn your head around. For most people, the knowledge of exactly how illusiory and ephemeral the physical world truly is, is terrifying like vertigo that does not end. Everything solid and predictable that you depend upon is phantom and transient and prone to change without notice, so for mental comfort the mind does *not* notice the endless reality tunnel track jumps and gives you an illusion of solidity and linearity. 

  Fact is, a healthy herd of humans needs only a tiny quota of whacked out shamans with bizarre perspectives.  Most folks simply do not need to know or see that. For a few, knowing how to shift the tracks a little bit consciously is more than enough to discover and follow your bliss.

  Chop wod carry water.. stub your toe on a rock, it still hurts. You still have to surrender to what Is in the here and now of being a human incarnae on earth. 

  Thank you for the interesting thread!
  Blessings...

[Eileen]

    Every thought is a prayer

Then you are in the *state* of surrender and do not need another thing, being All.
  We do not let the thoughts pass by without judgment.  We get involved. Feed the fear.  Give it Divine power to shape our personal reality by granting it the energy of belief that it is true.

In an infinite universe, anything that can exist must exist at least as potential, some where, some when.. time and space also being illusion, please do not ask me to try to describe the when and where....   So there are an infinite number of You living an infinite number of different lifetimes simultaneously... and your thoughts and beliefs shape what particular aspect of that your spark of consciousness is oberving. Changing your mind about something looks like jumping the tracks to a different reality tunnel.. and people do it all the time without even noticing.

  The whole sense of growth in linearity is illusion... 

   The cosmic child, in the womb of the void, never born
  The difference is the dream is becoming lucid.. you are becoming aware of being a God. You can do *anything*, create any reality and what to do with too many choices?

  The cosmic child, does not choose but lives them all...

For the purpose of 'seating' my understanding into my mind, as well as being open to correction where I might be deluded, I'd like to articulate my thoughts on this thread. 

Standing on the statements "As above, so below" and "As within, so without," the whole thing finally makes sense to me - for what that's worth.  If it's true that we project our beliefs (conscious and unconscious) outward onto other people and material things (and I very much believe this is true...it's my experience for sure) and consider that other people have characteristics that we are not, then this is a game that Consciousness is playing as well in order to maintain the illusion that this world exists.

...So that, in order for there to appear to be something other than THAT, there must be given the illusion of separation.  "I" is born.  In order for "I" to exist, there must be more "I's" - and it's imperative that all those "I's" APPEAR to be different from any other single "I".  And so the world is chopped up into infinite numbers of 'things' and 'I's" in order to give the appearance of something solid, as Mystress mentions in her post.  And if the world appears to be chopped up into all these pieces, with separate identities, then naturally, fear would come into being because one "I" would (appear to) be different from another, and the "I" would begin to need.  To feel separate, less than, more than, unequal.....

And so, if I'm correct in my perception, then the statement above (that there are an infinite number of 'yous' living an infinite number of lifetimes simultaneously) will make better sense to one who sees the illusion for what it is....   When I first was introduced to the 'quantum model' of life - where there are infinite "I's" living different lives simultaneously, my mind tried to imagine all these Eileens running in different directions living all these different options...on different tracks as per Mystress's description.  I tried to see it that way.  But that is impossible to really get the mind around because (at least in my mind) that perception was still subject to linear time thinking.  The 'simultaneous' concept was trying to fit into multiple Eileens running separate time lines, and that's rediculus, because there is no such thing as time.

...HOWEVER, when I remembered the bit about how we project the things we think we are not onto other people and objects, it fell into place for me.  Correct or not, this is how I see it today, and it's a masterful way to keep the illusion very thick:

Creation is experiencing infinite "I's" at once (NOW) in the form of all those separate bits.  It's not that there are a bazillion Eileens running off on different tracks or roads or directions like a misinterpretation of the quantum model- it's just that the "I" is projecting itself into infinite identities...creating the illusion of separation - of separate "I's".  But in fact, Creation is experiencing EVERYTHING at once (NOW) simultaneously....

Which means that, I am happy, sad, fat, thin, rich, poverty stricken, starving, satiated, miserably, blissful....and on and on and on, right NOW.  There is no separate Eileen experiencing any of it....it's all Creation, which is not even One because one is a quality that does not exist.  There indeed is nowhere to go, nothing to get, nothing we need, nothing to be.  It all is.  And so the concept that there are all these Eileens running various timelines, evaporates.  I am the Caucasian, the Indian, the African, the dog, the snake, the tree, the stars...etc.  But there is no I.  So it's just this silly little story that thinks it's amusing to tell this whole mess in the first place...

And it explains why as my awareness expands, I FEEL what others feel, think what others think, and experience this sense of chaos that feels like it wants to obliterate my mind.

And yet, in order to play the game, there has to be an I.  Since I'm All at once, then I can choose which role to play - so long as I remember the game...and do it consciously.  And that just makes the game all the more interesting.
Sigh...
Eileen

[juergen]

  Fact is, a healthy herd of humans needs only a tiny quota of whacked out shamans with bizarre perspectives.

Oh Hex! to be a whacked out shaman 'd be sooo cool!
There are certainly completely different definitions of shaman in the mass media, which is not great surprise, and they may even be "whacked out", on different terms, alone South Korea has about 300,000 of them, registered. Or, a nice overkill, isn't?

  Chop wood carry water.. stub your toe on a rock, it still hurts. You still have to surrender to what Is in the here and now of being a human incarnae on earth. 

That's also right; maybe this surrender can make "the illusion" more agreeable.

I can accept and to some degree comprehend that within the reality proper with its infinite vastness and complexity, not the first best can be allowed to be involved and interfere.
This should be enough "Void" for the moment before i get twisted another round (too much).

Thank You, Mystress for Your priceless info and patient guidance!

juergen


P.s.:

I want to go back to a passage by Willy, which i initially got wrong:

Willy:
When you talk about illusion and the outside world since we are all perhaps we create everything for ourselves even the illusion to get consciousness to evolve?

Now i'm quite shure that he didn't mean, that evolvement of consciousness is an illusion; rather, that illusion is for mental comfort, just like Mystress is saying.

(clever Willy  )

[WillyT]

...Mystress I thought entity because the thought which made me accept this idea about myself was accompanied with a warning of the future...taking me out of the present moment it made me fearful...I will do an entity clearing either way and continue searching withing for the answer...If I am understanding you correctly even acknowledging that an entity may have the power to make something manifest is giving away my own divine power...kind of self perpetuating. I will accept it as a gift of my divine power not yet understood. THANK YOU.

...ironically enough last night while drifting into sleep I saw my power chakra glowing and pulsing like the sun....I could see the symbols for a few childhood attachments, things I wanted to do at the time that did not manifest still sitting there...I surrendered them and drifted to sleep...

I am grateful for everyones input. So many perspectives help me draw my own conclusions and im truly appreciative.

thank you

[juergen]

You can do *anything*, create any reality and what to do with too many choices?

   The cosmic child, does not choose but lives them all... but you, the individual human spark of consciousness that puts on your shoes and socks, one at a time, but not in that order... ?

  If you set out to save the world then you are lost again, because you have forgotten it is not real and bought into a dream of a world in need of saving. Whenever you put belief in what is outside of yourself...

Ahhh, choices!
The cosmic child offers them all by living them all.
My choice to see the perfection-version/view, right?

Thanx!
juergen

[juergen]

As for, Just Being and not Doing... very worthwhile, but it takes a while to get the knack, eh? Smiley Tongue

being prone to personal cult, would probably identify me as a doer.
I wonder if there is really love of the fan towards the idol, at large.
I think wy really r in such a relationship is one relationship between adult and child where D and s looses all significance.
It's again the choice of the fan/admirer to see perfection in What Is.
Choice of responsibility, on the passage to adulthood.
And then taking care of the hot tomato, i think.

Lao-Tse's customs officer

[juergen]

I-leen sighence - protracted salem sighs
No, vibrant post!

And if the world appears to be chopped up into all these pieces, with separate identities, then naturally, fear would come into being because one "I" would (appear to) be different from another, and the "I" would begin to need.  To feel separate, less than, more than, unequal.....

This is then the individual part with its fears, needs, fixations and i believe, it's not illusory: it had been intended from source Herself; illusion 'd be to confound it with source or cut off the nerves to source, out of delusions of grandeur.
It's like the notoric conflict between the detective(mostly "our" hero(ine) and her "ignorant" superior.
"Need is the mother of invention", Mystress said once.
The inventions are like satellites cruising around a certain common sense, which was delivered to each piece(together with hierarchical structures), and i think Shakti's purpose of this all, is Her Own growth, by using operable chi. Imprinting that chi with Her state of the art of a certain given state, so that the Shakti-breathing chi parts are equipped with awareness and free will, shape etc., so that it becomes a challenge for separate & connected intelligence to see(or find) the perfection of it; on behalf of another click in evolution.
Seeng the perfection is, a bit like a goalgetter biding her chances...
So there is common ground in individuals and genders, as well as "difference of opinions that makes horse races"(Mark Twain).

So life approaches perfection, when Fems discover their outward uniqueness and all the accessories that fit them(wealth), while not forgetting or dismissing the inward connection with its more general(psychic) awareness. Males have a tendency for usurping feminity by producing surrogates of energy in form of weaponry, don't encourage it! Our(male) bliss is firstly to be under guidance by our DBs, and then some.

The cosmic child may be our free will, which is essentially essence, but tiny.
The way then is: Connecting with source to find perfection in local parts, which becomes perfection of source; who said this: divide and rule?

Divide and have fun!

juergen

P.s.:
Needs or scenes from a marriage

[Mystress]

Eileen wrote:
And if the world appears to be chopped up into all these pieces, with separate identities, then naturally, fear would come into being because one "I" would (appear to) be different from another, and the "I" would begin to need.  To feel separate, less than, more than, unequal.....


   There is a lot right with your post which makes what is not resonant harder to define. The over all feel to it is you think too much. There are a lot of assumptions promoting leaps...

   The essential thing is that fear *is* the separation.

   You assume the separation came first, it doesn't. We learn separation with the growth of ego and the beginning of fear that is conscious; defined as mentally generated as opposed to the natural fears of the body which are part of its mechanism.   The body has its own sense of boundaries, although for a baby, defining where mother stops and itself begins is a fuzzy concept.

  This becomes even more apparent, tapping into the consciousness of trees and animals.  They do not have an ego, what fears they may have are mostly a mechanism of survival and they do not sweat about them unless they happen.  They experience unity (trees especially)  yet they have a sense of self, of personal boundaries and their fears are only around the destruction of that... and even there, they take a long view.  The tree does not get angry at the woodpecker or the caterpillar. 

  Do you understand what I mean? In the physical there is an individuality in our very DNA, and the vessel grows protective stuff around that for the sake of the genetic experiement continuing... but without losing the sense of unity, their place in creation.   
   Then there are human ego minds which grow a mental identity made of fear, which creates a sense of separation from All. Ego and Karma are made of fear, those fears give us the sense of being separate from the Divine. 

  The idea you put forth, of a evolution into separation and fear, sorta falls down when you remember that infinite has no beginning...  so the question is, what value does ego find, in creating personal mythology? 

  Blessings!

[juergen]

  The idea you put forth, of a evolution into separation and fear, sorta falls down when you remember that infinite has no beginning...  so the question is, what value does ego find, in creating personal mythology?

So Infinity has no Ego, even no I, or any sort of kind which 'd be associated with a beginning?
Thus these concepts are illusion?
Makes sense for me.

The psychologic olymp 'll have to think twice and bow before the big ADD gal
There are extended sensations of 'going about the wrong way'-going abouts; heehee, "erase and rewind!"

As for the trees' special trait of care(turned fear) i'm reminded of your post of this Canadian Cedar at Your place, which seems to perfectly fit into the picture here.

As for the relation of mental fear and love i found this verse:

The road now leads onward
And I know not where
I feel in my heart
That you will be there
Whenever a storm comes
Whatever our fears
The journey goes on
As your love ever nears

from: Never-ending by Loreena McKennitt;

Many of us are aware of certain blockages from grounding or/and basic lack of trust/lacking jump of faith, and i thought a reason may lie in the initial relaxation before grounding.

It's a bit like
"before enlightenment: chop wood carry water - after enlightenment: chop wood carry water":

Love overpowers fear and we come near love thru grounding; yet we come also near to grounding thru (initial)love; paradoxical, isn't?

genetic experiement

Only someone from the german language sphere would take this mis-spell, where 'ie' is quite frequent and maintains the spoken sound 'i'(like in "experiment").
Genetic experiment, eh?

love, juergen

[walkinthelight]

I subscribe to the notion, sometimes a snake is just a snake and nothing more.  But to answer your question, I cannot see why anything can't be manifested or prompted or placed in a position, in which provides you an opportunity to stop and question it's reason of positioning or existence.  I would gather if you reflected on this  creature and found an answer about yourself or life's circumstance then it truly doesn't matter how it actually arrived at it's location, but more importantly what you learned from it.  Just my two cents and not much more

[juergen]

Walkinthelight:
I would gather if you reflected on this  creature and found an answer about yourself or life's circumstance then it truly doesn't matter how it actually arrived at it's location, but more importantly what you learned from it.

Appearances and disappearances can teach us that we have no position of power from the panoramic point of view we call commonly reality.
Parts of this forum appeared to disappear during a few days, and what i learned, was patience and not to panic
Then i guess you are right it's of less importance, if it really disappeared.
About a year ago i encountered a very strange and scary wild animal creature while walking in the forest; it came closest to a wild cat or a lynx; it was placed in the midst of my way when i first noticed it at a distance of about 200meters, and i'm shure it noticed me too. Unusual was it made no preparations to retreat. Maybe a cause for me to retreat, but i decided to go on; it only stepped aside a bit when  passing it.

I was in a state of respect with internal shivers, tense but no way aggressive or in fearful panic, and i felt so was the other person.
I guess it gave me some humbleness.
Still i don't think it was a wild cat or a lynx, or anything known.

Juergen

[walkinthelight]

Interesting story, I'm glad you made it by safely.  I watched a video the other day, two guys walking through the forest and a brown bear was going to charge them, they chose wisely they retreated!

[juergen]

Interesting story, I'm glad you made it by safely.  I watched a video the other day, two guys walking through the forest and a brown bear was going to charge them, they chose wisely they retreated!

The trick with wild beasts from a t.rex 'til annoying gnats and further on, may be not to be tasty to them .
After a series of gnat-bites i gave will to become utterly "untasty" to them, while "chasing" remained totally ineffective; well i only chased rather casually.
To my own surprise, in the following i only experienced a tiny neglectable bite, then no else.

And also the other way, like the story related by a witch from Belgium, when She  felt unable to eat the coconut after it had ranted about the plantation staff. So it may all come down to communication(compare Joni Mitchell in "Talk to me"; "Com" has an inherent tendency to make live more agreeable, even in unforeseen ways).
While the coconut story also shows, there need to be some boundaries with communication, lest one desires to starve

Btw: Hi Michael and Welcome!


I'm happy to have found this forum and I hope to grow and hopefully come to know some of you in time. I will tell you I'm very cynical and maybe overly upfront with my opinion, I apologize and I hope that no one finds offense.

Discourse has its dephts and traps, however which cannot serve as an excuse to abstain from(see above: *Joni*) it.
I guess we will can manage this, hope you will give us soon some more taste

I agree with you that there is so infinitely much to learn and grow and heal!

'til later,
Juergen