Seeing Self in Others/Others in Self

[Eileen]

Hi All.  I thought it might be useful (hopefully, and helpful for me of course) to 'put this out there' and see what comments roll in.

The issue of seeing our self in others and others in our self is something that has been front and center lately for me.  Some 'grrrrrrr' has been stirred up at my workplace for a lot of reasons and background that doesn't need detailed here, and of course, I've been resisting it.  I was discussing this resistance with a friend and she said to me that I surely must BE the very things that are causing me frustration.  

I had been thinking this very thing off and on and trying to make that fit, but it wasn't exactly fitting.  I could see that there were ASPECTS that maybe fell into a similar category, but for instance; a coworker trying to psychically probe me, which felt like I was being groped, was one issue.  So I could see that I do access 'stuff' about people, but it's not the result of probing, it's just awareness that is coming from my chakras opening.  I actually shut this off intentionally because I consider prying into other people's business as invasive and impolite.  

I've put a lot of time and effort into trying to figure this out a bit.  Did a meditation where I just went by people one by one in my life and accepted their contributions to me, good or bad...in other words, drawing them in and 'integrating' as a part of me figuratively speaking.  Great exercise, and it did cause a nice shift at work, but there are still people behaving in ways that I have difficulty dealing with.  

So this brought the question; where is the line between rejecting the parts of our self that we see in other people (who cause us grief in this instance) and choosing to not accept bad or undesirable behavior from them?  I'm obviously not perfect at this game of MASSIVE CHANGE, but I really want to move through some of it drawing the most for each effort.  There is a LOT of various STUFF flying around my workplace, but these examples are just a simple bit to play with.

Maybe the reason it's so difficult at the moment is because I do feel what other people are feeling and thinking when I'm interacting with them.  It does tend to put me on the defense here and there, regardless of my non-reaction to it.  There are just some people I really don't want screwing with my life - integrated as my self or otherwise!

Comments, please!
Blessings!
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[Eileen]

...Oh, and to clarify...  The issue with the person probing me psychically is not a problem because I'm worried she'll get information.  Most of the people I spend any time with are awakened and fully aware - much better able to perceive than I am.  It's not the information exchange that is a problem, it's the sensation of being groped that bothers me, and the visual distraction of the person moving (actually a visible act) into an altered state while talking with me that is at issue here.  People who are aware don't have to do anything to be aware...they just are aware.  It feels like nothing to me.  And I trust that.  Groping is invasive to me.
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[b0b]

On the website, there are stories about how just being around some persons (Mystress) can force others into an altered state or start their Kundalini moving.  Perhaps the energy coming from you is actually pushing others into that state? It may of course be something completely different, but have you looked at that aspect of it?

Love and Light!

b0b

: ...Oh, and to clarify...  The issue with the person probing me psychically is not a problem because I'm worried she'll get information.  Most of the people I spend any time with are awakened and fully aware - much better able to perceive than I am.  It's not the information exchange that is a problem, it's the sensation of being groped that bothers me, and the visual distraction of the person moving (actually a visible act) into an altered state while talking with me that is at issue here.  People who are aware don't have to do anything to be aware...they just are aware.  It feels like nothing to me.  And I trust that.  Groping is invasive to me.
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[Eileen]

Actually I did look at this aspect.  It's a possibility, but unlikely in this case.  I say that because I've known her for some time and I have observed her doing this with other people in different situations.  She often will be in conversation with someone near by and exclaim "I got that - I knew you were going to do such and such!"  She's deliberately trying to be psychic.  A lot of people want to be psychic!  I did, when I got swept in to the new age bs that goes along with Reiki and other stuff.  I don't think she's trying to be destructive; she's just trying to be psychic like her other friends.

Again, I don't even mind that, except that it's invasive - in the same way that I really don't want people hanging outside my bedroom window trying to get a glimpse of me preparing for bed, or going to the shower.  One woman I work with is aware, and she knows her boundaries as do I.  We use our awareness to create an atmosphere of clarity and understanding, not to pry and anticipate.  It's just part of our conversation, as it is with my other 'aware' friends.

This is just one little detail of my 'issue' though.  The idea of 'being the things we hate the most' sounds both useful to ponder and irritating at the same time.  I hate the thought of sharing company with a serial killer, but I'm not that, nor does my mind take me there.  I don't like being around people who refuse to shower and use deoderant, but I'm not that.  And I love people who have the patience to work the assembly line for the products that I use every day, but I'm not that either.  Where do we draw the line?  Is it just another statement that creates a state of guilt, like many other forms of religious/belief dogma?  Or is it a legitimate concept worth spending time with, maybe if it's put in a better context?  

I really try to look at all this stuff as it comes up because believe me, my stuff is coming up!  I also understand that Shakti fields can sometimes reflect the (other) person back to them - however they see themselves at the time.  I've experienced this first hand early on.  It's sobering.  Sometimes people see us and they smile because they see a reflection of their happy self.  Other times they get a reflection of their abusive parent or whatever.  

Anyway, thank you for your thoughts.  It's certainly a worthy suggestion!  
Blessings!
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: On the website, there are stories about how just being around some persons (Mystress) can force others into an altered state or start their Kundalini moving.  Perhaps the energy coming from you is actually pushing others into that state? It may of course be something completely different, but have you looked at that aspect of it?

[Mystress]

: Actually I did look at this aspect.  It's a possibility, but unlikely in this case.  I say that because I've known her for some time and I have observed her doing this with other people in different situations.  She often will be in conversation with someone near by and exclaim "I got that - I knew you were going to do such and such!"  She's deliberately trying to be psychic.  A lot of people want to be psychic!  I did, when I got swept in to the new age bs that goes along with Reiki and other stuff.  I don't think she's trying to be destructive; she's just trying to be psychic like her other friends.

Eileen... sometimes Goddess uses annoyance to draw my attention to someone whom She has placed before me to be a student. Ineviatably I have to surrender to it, even if I do not like them personally. Resisting only makes the communication more difficult.

 You are being called to be crone for an inept teenager, reach out and teach her to to be psychic, and also teach her what the cultural good manners are, to respect boundaries.  She acts out because she is insecure and seeking validation. Her validation is you telling her that she is right and to learn to mind her own business.

You went through that phase too, so it is a past self she is reflecting in you, and one you have not quite forgiven. Mend it in yourself, by passing on what you learned.

: Again, I don't even mind that, except that it's invasive - in the same way that I really don't want people hanging outside my bedroom window trying to get a glimpse of me preparing for bed, or going to the shower.  One woman I work with is aware, and she knows her boundaries as do I.  We use our awareness to create an atmosphere of clarity and understanding, not to pry and anticipate.  It's just part of our conversation, as it is with my other 'aware' friends.

: This is just one little detail of my 'issue' though.  The idea of 'being the things we hate the most' sounds both useful to ponder and irritating at the same time.  I hate the thought of sharing company with a serial killer, but I'm not that, nor does my mind take me there.  I don't like being around people who refuse to shower and use deoderant, but I'm not that.  And I love people who have the patience to work the assembly line for the products that I use every day, but I'm not that either.  Where do we draw the line?  Is it just another statement that creates a state of guilt, like many other forms of religious/belief dogma?  Or is it a legitimate concept worth spending time with, maybe if it's put in a better context?  

Sometimes, it is simply "Namaste" seeing Goddess in them, a reflection of yourself and getting past your personal judgements about how other people choose to live.

 It is part of the ascention process, adjusting to live in a higher vibration world. Expansion of consciousness.

 On a universal level, you are all that Is, so you are them too. Rejecting them is separation, it prevents enlightenment. Expanding consciousness requires examining and surrendering the judgments.

 If Goddess wants to have the experience of being a stinky homicidal assembly line worker then She will, and She does. Not manifesting as that through you at the moment, but you are That, anyway. Who knows what turns of fate could land you in those shoes?

 What you resist, persists. Accepting and surrendering the karma of ego, makes it less likely to need to manifest.

 The shadow is defined as what you think you are not. Shine your unconditional love and acceptance into the aspects of yourself that you reject when they show up as the illusion of "Other".

 When you are genuinely able to say "Namaste" to a serial killer, then a big chunk of ego shadow stuff goes off to the light... and higher wisdom comes back down to give illumination of wisdom about human nature.

  It keeps you grounded, and humbles the ego to do this practice of accepting that you are what you think you are not.

 This practice never ends, it is what makes Kundalini a lifelong process. Even when all the other chakras have opened fully, the infinite lotus of the crown keeps expanding as you integrate more and more of the world into unity with yourself, "I am That."

 Learning to see perfection, comes of this exercise. When you give love and acceptance to the parts of your infinite self that you think you are not - which is also where you think Goddess is not - you integrate separation and consciousness expands, your body can live at a higher vibration of ease and flow.

 More essentially, give love to what their reflection triggers in you, rather than projecting your love and acceptance and your judgments onto them.  

 You defend your ego's insistence that it is not a stinky serial killer, you only increase the separation, the strength of the ego. What you resist, persists.

 Ego arguing for its individuality is luggage that weights you down, you cannot take it with you because a body holding onto this stuff cannot handle living at a higher vibration.

Your individuality is in your thumbprint and your DNA, and that will persist in what you become when ego is no longer a barrier between your experience of yourself and Goddess will for you- the life that your soul designed.

 Ascension and humility are tied together, letting go of ego makes room for more light to flow. All the noise about being special, or better because you are not homicidal and use deodorant has to be let go.

 It is evolving into a Buddha compassion: whatever they do, these are your fellow human beings, and they are Goddess manifest, perfection. Learning to see in a whole new way, as new chakras open to give insights.  

: I really try to look at all this stuff as it comes up because believe me, my stuff is coming up!  I also understand that Shakti fields can sometimes reflect the (other) person back to them - however they see themselves at the time.  I've experienced this first hand early on.  It's sobering.  Sometimes people see us and they smile because they see a reflection of their happy self.  Other times they get a reflection of their abusive parent or whatever.  

That mostly happens if you have your energy turned outwards, to poke and reflect. Turn your energy inward, focus it on your own heart and power chakra navigation, and people will mostly see a friendly, honest person who is a pleasure to deal with.

 It is not about what other people do, Eileen... it is about you, your relationship with your Infinite Self. Blessings!

: Anyway, thank you for your thoughts.  It's certainly a worthy suggestion!  
: Blessings!
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: : On the website, there are stories about how just being around some persons (Mystress) can force others into an altered state or start their Kundalini moving.  Perhaps the energy coming from you is actually pushing others into that state? It may of course be something completely different, but have you looked at that aspect of it?

[Eileen]

Thank you, Mystress, for your answers.  In addition to what you wrote here I went back to your articles on shadow and projection to re-read them.  Very helpful.  There's quite a differenc between "reading" and "needing" - so that the information seats more solidly when one is in a state of chaos.

I have a lot to chew on.

There is a lot of very intense change going on for me right now, so all of this is very intense.  I've been quite overwhelmed.  Fortunately, I've come into the hands of 2 amazing, very advanced 'healers' who are providing good support for me in the form of massage/energywork and acupuncture, without any projections.  Mostly tho, it's about going inside and facing my self.  Thank you for using just the right words and just the right touch so that I could come together rather than come apart entirely.  
Blessings!
Eileen