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Problems with entities/guides - Negative energy

Started by b0b, Oct 28, 2005, 07:26:52 AM

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b0b

I have been having an amazingly hard time getting my hands around these concepts.  I sort of accepted that I had a very different view of this aspect and went on to other lessons, but I keep getting pulled back to take another look.

In my personal experience, these things do not exist.  I have worked with individuals that thought they were being bothered by entities... only to see how they were creating these things themselves.  I have watched Reiki Masters make claims about their spiritual guides...finding them, using them...for me this has
always been an excuse not to take credit/blame for the idea themselves.

The only spiritual beings that I can truly say I have experienced..
that is seen, felt heard or saw were angels that I had asked to assist me in a Reiki Healing session.  

This whole issue of negative or bad is foreign to me.  All is one. There can be no negative or bad, there only is.  

Maybe I have missed the train and not become enlightened enough to see the reality, but for me reality is what I create it to be.

If I run around doing cleansing and chasing out negative energies am I not creating those negativities and giving them power by believing in them?  If I chose NOT to believe they have no power over me.

I have found this truth of mine to hold up in practice, however it is so avidly attacked by many others that they have even kicked me out of several discussion groups for daring to share my truth with them.

Maybe this is MY major ego issue that needs a kick in the A@# from some of you for me to get over it... if so please begin the kicking and let us see if it does any good.

Love and Light!

b0b







Mystress

 

 You find it confusing because you are looking at the problem/situation/drama from a perspective of a few chakras higher than the place where the entities exist, so you see the larger picture and are immune.

 In the dimension/universe of the power chakra, they exist. On a higher dimension all is Love. Make sense? It is OK with me if you choose not to believe in them.

: I have been having an amazingly hard time getting my hands around these concepts.  I sort of accepted that I had a very different view of this aspect and went on to other lessons, but I keep getting pulled back to take another look.

: In my personal experience, these things do not exist.  I have worked with individuals that thought they were being bothered by entities... only to see how they were creating these things themselves.  I have watched Reiki Masters make claims about their spiritual guides...finding them, using them...for me this has
: always been an excuse not to take credit/blame for the idea themselves.

: The only spiritual beings that I can truly say I have experienced..
: that is seen, felt heard or saw were angels that I had asked to assist me in a Reiki Healing session.  

: This whole issue of negative or bad is foreign to me.  All is one. There can be no negative or bad, there only is.  

: Maybe I have missed the train and not become enlightened enough to see the reality, but for me reality is what I create it to be.

: If I run around doing cleansing and chasing out negative energies am I not creating those negativities and giving them power by believing in them?  If I chose NOT to believe they have no power over me.

: I have found this truth of mine to hold up in practice, however it is so avidly attacked by many others that they have even kicked me out of several discussion groups for daring to share my truth with them.

: Maybe this is MY major ego issue that needs a kick in the A@# from some of you for me to get over it... if so please begin the kicking and let us see if it does any good.

: Love and Light!

: b0b







Tommy

Dear Bob

I did not feels a sudden urge to kick you.. hope that is ok :) I agree that one should not be giving entities too much power by believing in them.. but by "pretending" that they are not there you just might block yourself from becomming all one. Maybe entities is not an outside source of power but aspects us ourselves as you mention.. but some of the entities i have encountered in myself and others were so different from myself that i could not relate to them at all. and i would have been hard to clear them out trough normal ways of surrendering or using psychology.. simply because they did not make any sense. And when i look at this from a higher level i turns out that what i relate to as myself is a compilation of entities.. atleast if we agree that an entity is a voice/authority not in harmony with what we relate to as ourselves. I can understand that i hear my mothers voice sometimes telling me to be carefull.. because i have heard it so many times as a child that i exspect any adventurous thoughts to be met with precaution.. i can deal with this.. but when some being from a horrorshow is trying to enter my spine trough a wormwhole from 30.000 years ago i do not know how to deal with or integrate this experience into my everyday psychology.

What i wondered when i read your post was this.. do you neglect your lower charkras and live out of your body? or have you found a clever way of dealing with some concepts that are very hard to comprehend?

Blessings
Tommy


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:   You find it confusing because you are looking at the problem/situation/drama from a perspective of a few chakras higher than the place where the entities exist, so you see the larger picture and are immune.

:   In the dimension/universe of the power chakra, they exist. On a higher dimension all is Love. Make sense? It is OK with me if you choose not to believe in them.

: : I have been having an amazingly hard time getting my hands around these concepts.  I sort of accepted that I had a very different view of this aspect and went on to other lessons, but I keep getting pulled back to take another look.

: : In my personal experience, these things do not exist.  I have worked with individuals that thought they were being bothered by entities... only to see how they were creating these things themselves.  I have watched Reiki Masters make claims about their spiritual guides...finding them, using them...for me this has
: : always been an excuse not to take credit/blame for the idea themselves.

: : The only spiritual beings that I can truly say I have experienced..
: : that is seen, felt heard or saw were angels that I had asked to assist me in a Reiki Healing session.  

: : This whole issue of negative or bad is foreign to me.  All is one. There can be no negative or bad, there only is.  

: : Maybe I have missed the train and not become enlightened enough to see the reality, but for me reality is what I create it to be.

: : If I run around doing cleansing and chasing out negative energies am I not creating those negativities and giving them power by believing in them?  If I chose NOT to believe they have no power over me.

: : I have found this truth of mine to hold up in practice, however it is so avidly attacked by many others that they have even kicked me out of several discussion groups for daring to share my truth with them.

: : Maybe this is MY major ego issue that needs a kick in the A@# from some of you for me to get over it... if so please begin the kicking and let us see if it does any good.

: : Love and Light!

: : b0b







b0b

Is it necessary to go back and view these from their own energy level? Oh! Aspects of myself...yes that approach has some merit. Hmm...I will try it from that level.

THANKS!!!!! :-)

Love and Light!

b0b

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:   You find it confusing because you are looking at the problem/situation/drama from a perspective of a few chakras higher than the place where the entities exist, so you see the larger picture and are immune.

:   In the dimension/universe of the power chakra, they exist. On a higher dimension all is Love. Make sense? It is OK with me if you choose not to believe in them.

: : I have been having an amazingly hard time getting my hands around these concepts.  I sort of accepted that I had a very different view of this aspect and went on to other lessons, but I keep getting pulled back to take another look.

: : In my personal experience, these things do not exist.  I have worked with individuals that thought they were being bothered by entities... only to see how they were creating these things themselves.  I have watched Reiki Masters make claims about their spiritual guides...finding them, using them...for me this has
: : always been an excuse not to take credit/blame for the idea themselves.

: : The only spiritual beings that I can truly say I have experienced..
: : that is seen, felt heard or saw were angels that I had asked to assist me in a Reiki Healing session.  

: : This whole issue of negative or bad is foreign to me.  All is one. There can be no negative or bad, there only is.  

: : Maybe I have missed the train and not become enlightened enough to see the reality, but for me reality is what I create it to be.

: : If I run around doing cleansing and chasing out negative energies am I not creating those negativities and giving them power by believing in them?  If I chose NOT to believe they have no power over me.

: : I have found this truth of mine to hold up in practice, however it is so avidly attacked by many others that they have even kicked me out of several discussion groups for daring to share my truth with them.

: : Maybe this is MY major ego issue that needs a kick in the A@# from some of you for me to get over it... if so please begin the kicking and let us see if it does any good.

: : Love and Light!

: : b0b