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Might be in Trouble, Might not be

Started by TheFifth, May 25, 2018, 08:05:00 PM

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TheFifth

That warm smoldering sensation is kind of familiar; I remember when I first came here feeling it like some kind of warm, welcoming campfire in my chest. I seem to have developed some kind of second sight now in addition to the empathy which is cool and helps me visualize things like grounding. Seems the tummo cleared out a lot of noise so I can now find a signal and parse through the karma/splinters better. 90% of my life up until now was in that stoned stupor state, high cortisol/inflammation, high baseline anxiety/tension in the body alternating with detached bliss--not embodied bliss. I used bliss to escape - reliably - until even the escapism didn't work anymore. Good to feel bliss returning, even though I don't necessarily want to hammer that button too much.

I'll just continue trying to listen to the body and its ways of expelling stuff. The barfing can occur essentially whenever I decide to allow it. Negotiating with it so I can be "socially acceptable" in presentation when needed seemed to work. Feel my mind/reasoning/organizational capacity starting to come back. Cortisol / inflammation has always clouded it out and masked my expression.

Weird how things turn out. When I first came here I never would have imagined I was a vampire, that I was carrying so much garbage, or how incredibly empathic/intuitive I seem to be beneath that whole heap.

Mystress

Seems the tummo cleared out a lot of noise so I can now find a signal and parse through the karma/splinters better. 90% of my life up until now was in that stoned stupor state, high cortisol/inflammation, high baseline anxiety/tension in the body alternating with detached bliss--not embodied bliss. I used bliss to escape - reliably - until even the escapism didn't work anymore.

  I am pretty sure it was the other thing I did, not the tummo that is responsible for your clearer head and reduced inflammation. Having bits of your consciousness set against the rest is a chronic stress cause of inflammation. When that interference is resolved, the result is a laser-like alignment of focus.

  You are getting a bit tangled in the terminology. You talk about parsing through your splinters... isn't possible, makes no sense. Jung defined the shadow as "that which we think we are not" and added that it is invisible. Splinters, rejected parts of oneself "I am not that!" live deep in shadow and are invisible to the one who made them. Vampire vortexes have no ability to see or identify splinters or sock puppets. Those manifestations are just not part of its reality or perceptions. 

  What is invisible can some times be detected, like a black hole can be identified by how light is bent around it, and an invisible elephant in the living room can be identified by how people are bent around it. You noted there is a part of you that always expects rejection... that is how it bent the light but you could not call it up to face you, it remained invisible.

TheFifth

Yeah that is likely correct I get kinda excitable with big changes and start jumping to conclusions and making leaps. I still have to test the esophagus issue with an offending food like some type of melon or raw vegetable, will report back in the other thread. I once had my blood cortisol measured and it was unbelievable - I suppose this was more indicative of physiological/medical inflammatory processes albeit rooted in spiritual causes. Another cortisol test would be interesting to do.

I think I'm clear now on the splinters; by being in the shadow they are by their very nature invisible. I had a dream about a month ago that sort of suggested in a subtle way that a lot of what's been going on with me lately has just been my process digging more into the shadow. Good lord did it feel like there was a lot in there. On the one hand I always used to think surely my shadow can't be that big, kind of naively; but feeling how big it is doesn't necessarily feel "special" or unique to me, either.

My practice right now that seems to be working is just going into my solar plexus and hugging all the tension that comes up with violet gratitude-infused light. I always used to wonder if progress was being made but it's just layer after layer. After a good 20 minutes of this practice I feel revitalized and fed somehow. Little breakthroughs seem to be made, then pressure returns which I assume is the k energy pushing on another layer.   

Mystress


Jung defined the Shadow as "What we think we are not" and that means its the whole universe and everybody else on the planet. Don't worry about size.

TheFifth

So much of my life has been spent feeling like God hates me. This angry white-bearded caricature grew into a scowling inner tyrant who criticized nearly everything about me, everything I do. All my suffering, all my pains, demons, everything that has ever held me back from living that traditional life I always felt others had; I never saw these things as divine, or bittersweet, or gifts in disguise, but rather as punishment for some primordial sin I surely couldn’t remember, but surely I needed to be continually reminded of. 

How deep this cultural programming runs, it remains invisible for so long; invisible but visibly lived out. For so long I wished this God really was an invisible spaghetti monster but he was tangible in how I related to my suffering, how flawed I always felt and how I mentally punished myself for it. So deeply imperfect. I thought I had shed him away in my adolescence but his harsh voice remained.

The thought that I’m perfect just the way I am feels like home, or some refuge I have no other choice but to come back to. I’m sure in some universe I could keep repeating the same story, playing the same game over and over again, never letting go of the self-flagellation and just feeling shitty until my final breath. I guess I do have a choice, but love is a very different universe than fear. I'm sure Goddess has no judgment between either choice, but there's no denying that for where I am now, it just feels like love is the smarter of the two.

I guess I’m just in a place where I want to be love because I feel there’s no fear there, or the fear transmutes there, or there’s nothing to even fear there. Maybe I just have to actually see myself and the world for the first time.


Gopi

#105
Quote"The thought that I’m perfect just the way I am feels like home, or some refuge I have no other choice but to come back to."
Yep. Self is All. Ramana fell into non-duality at a very early age. All separation is illusion. Whenever people would ask Ramana about God, he would respond 'Who is this seeker?' hinting at the illusion of separation.

Quote"I guess I’m just in a place where I want to be love because I feel there’s no fear there"[
Excellent. When you are no longer afraid of facing fear and surrender to Goddess, then fear does not have the same effect on you. You can observe it, learn lessons, then move past your own fears, and make compassionate choices in your own life. Osho says when you ARE love, it is not something that you do. When you ARE love, there is no intention to fix or save others. All is as it should be. We learn to see the Divine perfection in All that Is. Like a rose blossoming, you do not worry about whether someone is benefiting from your fragrance. You simply blossoms and spread your love because you cannot be otherwise.

Happy to hear that you are having these experiences and realizations.
Namaste!
Gopi

TheFifth

Thank you Gopi, I enjoy reading your posts and find your sharing about your own journey in the other threads comforting and inspiring.

There seems to be a seed of silence growing now, sort of like that feeling you get when you're falling down or being pulled out to sea and things feel kind of slowed down and unreal, peaceful. It's kind of like that, but not exactly.

Good stuff, welcome developments. I feel like I've found my way back to a discernible trail.

TheFifth

Had a dream that I was literally laughing at everything that has ever bothered me and somehow felt that was how I want to live. So strange how over a year ago I somehow had that experience for a day or two of just entering into complete inner silence, like I had somehow stumbled into it and Mystress said that was my true nature. It made perfect sense because when I was there it was just empty but I was everyone at the same time. The ruse was up, so to speak. Interesting to reflect on it a bit, having been away from it for so long.

I'm not really convinced anymore that this shadow stuff coming up has been"bad" (unconscious framing I had at the time). The "demon" that's been hanging around for the past year (most apt nickname I can give it) does reveal itself as a teacher, testing me incessantly on how well I can stay grounded and expand my circle of love. Even the parts of me where it feels like light never touches. Cold, dark places. Having them emerge as palpable revelations is a gift, just another side of self. Why should it be lower in value than the highest peak or most ecstatic mystical experience?

The demon isn't going anywhere and I don't expect him to anymore. The unconscious resistance was always the same, "get outta here!" High and mighty. Will he cast off his red suit eventually? Part of me feels like the red suit *is* the reflection of my own karma. On a deeper level, if he is a personality splinter perhaps he is just lonely and cold, in which case I suppose building any loving pipeline would be beneficial and promote integration. When I say he's palpable, I literally feel him in my solar plexus, slightly to the right side. Spasms, rightness. I think that the periodic spasms are indications of a release of something, which is good. Should probably write about it more for processing and untangling.

Gopi

#108
Thank you. I have learned and benefited a lot from the Tea room. So am happy to contribute.

Quote"There seems to be a seed of silence growing now, sort of like that feeling you get when you're falling down or being pulled out to sea and things feel kind of slowed down and unreal, peaceful."
Zen buddhism practitioners hint at Satori experiences. Satori is usually inadequately translated into English as Enlightenment. It is very hard to talk about Satori because in order to describe a phenomenon there must be an observer and a conscious experience of that phenomenon. Satori *happens* or an individual []*falls*] into Satori when they no longer identify as an individual consciousness - no observer, no phenomenon. No water. No moon. Satori is not and cannot be an achievement because it is not a logical conclusion and there is no doer (hence the words 'happen' and 'falls').

There comes a point in the journey of the seeker where the only hurdle is the effort of the seeker. This may seem very counter-intutive and confusing for some because till this point the seeker has been instructed to be steadfast in his/her spiritual practices and make efforts. And then you reach a point where you have to let go of what you are looking for and with it your doership. This is a definitive moment of trust, deeper surrender, vulnerability, and strength.

My first Satori experience happened while I was doing my yoga practice in Mystress' living room on a early December morning. I simply fell into a deep silence. And all the questions, doubts, voices, worries, and concerns just fell silent. All is as it should be. You are simply present and enveloped in a peaceful silence. Watch the grass grow.

Quote"The "demon" that's been hanging around for the past year (most apt nickname I can give it) does reveal itself as a teacher,"
The Latin word daemon means helper spirit or guiding spirit. Your demons are your best friends because they will never abandon you and they will always tell you the truth even when you don't want to hear the truth. Most of us do not like facing our own demons because they tell us the ugly truth - the things we don't want to hear about ourselves.

Imagine that you see a good friend crossing the road and he is not aware of a bicycle headed towards him. You call his name but he does not hear you. So you call LOUDER and LOUDER. You jump up and down and do what you need to do in order to get their attention. Your friend may be startled and shocked by your random actions but your intention is to get their attention. This is what demons do for us. We refuse to pay attention. So they get more louder and angrier and meaner. Whatever they need to do in order to get our attention. So that we don't hurt ourselves. Your demons are loving and caring friends and whose job is usually thankless.

Give thanks to your demons every time they teach you difficult lessons. If some of them are really mean, you can slowly earn their trust back and teach them how to communicate their needs without getting nasty. In my experience, the grumpiest demons are also like a little kitten once you establish trust.
Namaste!
Gopi

TheFifth

 :) Think I made a breakthrough with the demon I was talking about. Goddess provided me an opportunity to be confronted with a family member who has always rejected and judged me--he has always been very activating for me. As I was falling asleep one evening I was in the usual space of "I don't want to feel this resentment" and feeling crummy about it when I decided to focus on the sensation and really honor it. That's what I told him--that I appreciate and honor you for who and what you are. At this point I had the revelation that he exists (or existed in that form) to protect me, or at least that's how I had probably molded him at an early age. Maybe he existed to help me as a youngster deal with all the projections I seemed to draw--either way, that's the past.

Since that little conversation with him I feel so much lighter and clearer. It's like the heaviness in the stomach and tightness in the face just vanished. Just gone.

Probably belongs in the other thread but I'm feeling guided to change my diet to something lighter and simpler. I suppose I'll actually go over there and write up what I've noticed on the health front.

TheFifth

Spent a good week or so flying high only to form another log jam. I think a lot of it has to do with this hang up I have around being a nice person. I don't know how or were I got it from but I'm pretty much nice and courteous to as a habit, which is definitely a positive thing, but the downside of it can be repression of emotional states that don't conform. So, when I experience anger or any negative relational emotions I almost instantly repress. Makes sense it would become depression.

Busting out of the log jams right now seems to be nothing short of a detonation of sorts, a rather dramatic emotional outburst in a secluded and private environment where I can just let this energy move. If it doesn't move, it just freezes into an aching solar plexus. Holy cow is it powerful, though. Nothing wrong with rage, no judgments, at least not anymore. It is a very dynamic energy that even feels creative.

Hard to say if or when my vortex will come online and handle this stuff on autopilot, but, at least for now, this seems to be working. I guess my judgments around these types of emotions are what are causing this metaphysical indigestion. It's funny because I was all clear and felt emotionally more stable than probably ever before then my guide led me into an online comments cesspool to feed and the depression returned. I guess he is and always was online and I've just been holding incongruent opinions and judgments.


TheFifth

I decided to hang up little reminders for myself to surrender just as a check on myself and my tendency to fall into automatic patterns of thought. This has seemed beneficial since there seems to be zero room anymore to foible around. This has to become a lifestyle. Every thought must be surrendered or it seems to become a sticking point that throws everything out of wack.

Gopi

Nice to hear about your progress.

Quote"...this hang up I have around being a nice person. I don't know how or were I got it from but I'm pretty much nice and courteous to as a habit, which is definitely a positive thing, but the downside of it can be repression of emotional states that don't conform."
Most of us have heard about fight/flight response when we are facing danger or think we are in trouble. There are two more: fawn and freeze. Fawning is when you try to distract or please the predator in the hopes that the predator will not harm us. Freeze is nature's mercy mechanism when confronted with trauma - 'deer in headlight' - frozen so you don't feel any pain. There is plenty of examples in nature where you can see fawning - birds displaying vibrant colored feathers, animals changing shape/color of their body, fish that swim together, etc.

Children who grow up in homes where the family dynamics with adults is dysfunctional and abusive can become 'people pleasers' as adults. You do everything you can all the time to make sure that everyone is happy. It can get really messed up when children start internalizing that any problem that happens is their fault for not trying harder. The child exists to please the whims of adults. Which is so cruel and unfair.

We all get our fixes one way or the other when we are starved for too long. Even though 'people pleasers' may be genuinely nice and considerate, they can also become very manipulative and often mean when things don't go their way. Starved dogs bite harder. People pleasers may not use harsh words but they know how to hit others where it hurts. The truth is most of the time people pleasers expect others to be considerate, kind, and appreciative of their efforts. Unfortunately, it is human nature to think less of what is available freely. Being taken for granted, feeling unappreciated, emotionally burnt out, bitter about perceived betrayal, and foul mood are not fun to experience. A lot of people-pleasers get to a point where they are severely burnt out because they always put other people's needs first and do not take care of themselves. Burnt-out empaths and paranoid light workers.

We repress because we have been taught that having certain emotions/thought is bad. There is a difference between feeling an emotion and letting the emotion take over you. Being aware of our emotion and acting upon them are two different things. Being angry means we are feeling violated. Being afraid means we are feeling threatened. And so on... Emotions and feelings themselves are neither good or bad. We all have dirty fantasies. We all have unkind thoughts. We are all capable of cruelty and kindness. Goddess made us human so that we can experience all human feelings. And you are right about rage/anger being "a very dynamic energy that even feels creative". There is much therapeutic value in finding release through creative efforts and art.

Quote"I was all clear and felt emotionally more stable than probably ever before then my guide led me into an online comments cesspool to feed and the depression returned."
Dump overload. Get grounded. As Mystress says, 'What you resist persists'. Surrender your anger and ask your guides to show you the lesson. Give gratitude for the experience and to your self.

Namaste
Gopi
Namaste!
Gopi

Mystress

Gopi wrote:  Children who grow up in homes where the family dynamics with adults is dysfunctional and abusive can become 'people pleasers' as adults.

  Cool response, popular meme going around. Did you ask your discernment if it is true for him?

  It is not true for me. I did not give a shit about pleasing my parents, only about keeping them off my back. My preferred state was unavailable/invisible.

  The thing about being ridiculously empathic is, whatever emotions I inspire in others I will be feeling too. Especially as lately my body responds to stress by bleeding, I am highly motivated to not cause stress in others.

  The missiles people send when they are pissed at you, are not ideally digestible because typically they are not sending it to let it go, they want to be right about it- whatever they are projecting. It is not a gift, it is bait on a hook.

   On a lazy day I might just put my wings up, hide behind them and trust the magic to show them that it is really not about me. At the same time, the inside of the wings are reflecting back, how my reaction to the bombing, really is all about me, lol.

  I sometimes gather the stuff and pass it  as a gift to the faeries. Goddess won't take stolen karma like that but faerie are fine so long as it is offered respectfully. It is messy gunk to transmute myself, have to rise above it, see it as a gift. "Everything is love or a cry for love", pretend they are offering their karma at the feet of the guru yadda yadda. Boring.

  So, it is not hard to guess why a psi vamp who does not know they are one or how to digest, might get really gun-shy about pissing people off. Feeling your power chakra turn into a lead brick for a few days, vortex plugged with indigestible spewings and not understanding why it happens except, highly motivated to be a very nice polite person.

  Gopi, now that you have finally come out the other side of years of depression, it is a good time to sit down with your own guidance and find out how much of it, was not even yours. How much was empathic noise you internalized as your own?  It would not surprise me at all if you discover the depression was never really yours, to begin with.

  When I first met dreamwalker in secondlife, he was a miserable insane suicidal wreck of a human being. At one point we counted, I think fourteen different types of mental illness that were not his own. At least that many different identities too. A shaman who did not know he was one, took it all on as his own, did not know how to resolve. Decades of mental illness.

  Coming out the other side of it, mourning the lost years I asked him: if you could trade 40 years of crazy to gain the ability to heal insanity in others, would you take that deal? his response was immediate- yes he would. dreamwalker has become the best healer I have ever trained, his knowledge of insanity from the inside gives him insights that perhaps could not have been learned any other way.

  For the extremely empathic, for the genetically gifted, insanity can be caught like a virus, from another person. Not wanting to trigger other people to spew their crazy at you, can be basic self preservation.



TheFifth

All this is timely and makes perfect sense. It’s adaptation. I’ve always wondered why I’m so distant from people and have always felt like my survival depended on not pissing other people off lol. More vampire stuff.

It runs through every facet of my life. Romantic relationships? Too bumpy and the entanglement is overwhelming. Anger from a friend or coworker feels like psychic assault. On my clearest days lately the empathy is really cool, the way in which I can experience another person so deeply but most of the time in my life it was just...overwhelming.

Been grounding 9-10x daily really trying to even out the energies and give my system every advantage I canâ€"I know it is designed to clear itself given enough support.

The insight and advice here is always spot on and related to whatever it is I’m working through or processing. It all keeps coming back to the vampire thing though. It really cuts to pretty much every facet of my life.

Mystress

It all keeps coming back to the vampire thing though. It really cuts to pretty much every facet of my life.

  "Facet" is the magic word, you used it twice. Faceted like crystals...
   
  I made a discovery a few weeks ago, psi vamps have a mark on the left side same location as the ice blade in a sang except it has been described as a cascade of fiery diamonds, or the inside of a geode. Early stages of testing suggests that it might work like wings only better, when it comes to transforming and sending back the agro.  Goddess provides the balance as part of the design of you. Just still getting the system fully up and running eh?

  So your assignment is to work with your guide to find that inside yourself, between collarbone and hip, left side. It might look like a big lumpy sausage when you first discover it, all plugged up with karma stuff. Clean it off and test redirecting the depressive gunk off the comments to it, see what happens.

  Cleaning the gunk off and activating it, seems to be quite transformative especially at clearing the childhood impressions that make barfing kriyas and insecurities. All that rejection stuff, I bet it is in there...

  Ya know, I did not set out to become a healer. Empathy blackmailed me into becoming a healer.  Sometimes, the only way to escape feeling someone else's misery was to help them feel better...  and then I got good at it.  Enlightened self interest, its called.

   I don't think it is the same as being a people pleaser, especially when the healing involves a smack upside the head with a clue-by-four. (Followed by hiding behind my wings, lol)

   For sure it is more pleasant to experience empathy with happy people so that can be a motive.


   

TheFifth

So far so good. Seems like it eats some of it and then other parts move up my throat and makes me kind of retch and feel like I have a frog in my throat. Upward movement of karmic stuff I always take as a good sign. The other indicator I use is sense of self or lens and this seems better too, clearer than I’m used to. The empathy is starting to feel more like food and less like gunk. Lots of intermittent spasming in the solar plexus.

Mystress


  Well, it is brand new tech, so far only shared with two psi vamps who are on my skype. You are on the vamp R&D team, your discoveries are helpful.

  My first impression of the thing in sausage form was of a constipated bowel. One solution for that condition, take fibre or eat more food to push the old shit out. Sorry to be graphic but that is what you are doing. Feeding it is cleaning it out, and the retching is the mild version of the barfing kriya.

   You could continue to clear it out like that but I would do a shortcut, Goddess return to sender.  I just don't have much patience when it comes to karma from people who would verbally abuse a child.

  "Goddess please take this, and give it back to whomever it belongs to, in what ever way, shape, form, or time as You know best. Thank you." Might need a few repeats.

   She won't take stolen karma except to return it, and it will be transmuted into what ever form of insight they will hear best, at the most opportune time.

  When you have the crystally thing completely cleared out, ramp it up to full on sparkle and go out in public, check out how people respond to you. Charisma on turbo charge? Could be fun! 



TheFifth

Yeah what I’ve been doing has felt a bit slow and like I’m doing it “manually” but some part of me since yesterday has had that feeling that this stuff is actually quite old and could be returned to sender - probably why surrendering it didn’t seem to work. There’s this sort of candy-like sweetness sensation in my stomach and a glow around my heart which I take to be signs of proper digestion.

Been very sleepy. Getting geared up to start running a new Tx group for addiction which was very stressful in the past on an energy level.

Will try the shortcut.

TheFifth

Interesting. I suppose it’s just a heaping pile of projections. Getting back impressions and images of people, some recent (over the past year) I wouldn’t have expected but I’m not surprised.

TheFifth

Interesting way to tangibly come to this realization but people really are like Gods/Goddesses walking around, the power of their thoughts and projections. The way these have effected me really make me want to be careful about how I think about others because it really does have an effect. And to think most of it was from some of the people closest to me.

Mystress


  Well we don't usually give much weight, to the opinions of strangers. People we are close to, we are invested in how they feel about us so we let it in. Vampire hunger makes extra receptivity.

  On an unconscious level, everybody is completely psychic, telepathic. The only difference is how much of that information rises into awareness of the conscious mind. With FST we deliberately cultivate a relationship with our unconscious self so it becomes more willing to share the information and, presto! Just like that, you become psychic.

  Just because someone does not consciously hear the thoughts of another, does not mean there is no effect, there is still an unconscious impression that ripples.

  There is a cosmic right to privacy, if you request it. I have a sort of mental bunker, mirrored on the inside for when I need privacy to sort out my thoughts about someone, without any projections affecting them.



TheFifth

My health and  energy levels seemed to crash a few days ago in response to my coffee habit, which I always tell myself I need to move through the day and keep fatigue at bay.

Interestingly enough I found myself in a position where my vortex seemed to lead me to snack on someone’s troubles and I feel revitalized. It sort gives me more evidence that my physical health is tied together with establishing harmony with my vortex and appetites. If anything, maybe my issue hasn’t been being bogged down with too much karma, but not eating enough of it to keep everything moving.

Interesting, my sense right now is that having cleared a lot of the childhood projection stuffâ€"now that everything seems up and runningâ€"it’s time to eat a lot more. Like a kid having a growth spurt or something.

I figure I’ll surrender and leave it to my guide. I don’t want to go about looking for snacks or develop a “healer” ego and whatnot. But feeling better and energized is nice if synchronicity keeps steering snacks my way.


TheFifth

You know, there’s something about the state I’ve been in over the past few days that’s very blissful. I felt crushed, total collapse of energy and barely escaping the warm trappings of my bed. I always used to read about Ram Dass where he’d talk about going into hospitals and feeling tremendous presence and contact with the divine being among all the ailing people; I never really got it.

I guess I just realized, hey, maybe I do have some kind of fibromyalgia-like illness. If so, what can I do about it? Nothing. For one thing, I can stop being so hard on myself, trying to keep pace with social expectations.

Goodness though, there’s so much sweetness, bliss, a euphoric explosion of violet out of my crown just thinking about it. There’s such a gentle, serene part of me that only comes out at times like this. My eyes soften, yet I feel stronger and more courageous than ever. I guess it’s the feeling of just giving up, and truly meaning it. Just done.

And, of course, the fatigue abates. Maybe the kundalini was crushing me for a reason. Literally felt like gravity had increased to the point I could no longer raise a finger of volition. A cleansing die-off of sorts. I felt like a corpse, honestly. I had gotten a bit gung-ho about certain pursuits and was definitely in a state of trying to have my cake and eat it too, getting attached to my music and trying to juggle it with working and whatnot.

This bliss though, I’ve never felt anything like it. Plenty of peak experiences and bliss before, but this is very intense. I feel like I’m surrounded by flower fragrance. I can smell it. It’s very nice.

I get the sense I must have been bottlenecking there somehow. It feels like there’s been a release and the illness has turned into sheer ecstatic intoxication

Mystress

 What if it is not fibromyalgia, but starvation? You have been quite timid with feeding, taking on some hard cases but still only one at a time. You have capacity to feed on hundreds, probably thousands at once... and through time.

  Pick a cause, pick a sport, pick a protest. How about AA? At any given moment, there are hundreds of AA meetings going on, all over the world and your vortex knows everything. Think some of those folks could use a load off?  How about climate change? Miss Thurman is having rallies almost every day, thousands of people. Pick a cause, how about military veterans? Prisons? Do a search, print a list, have a few for lunch every day. You don't need proximity, only intention and vortex agreement, it handles consent, intend that too. Let it decide how many and you will be surprised at your capacity.