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The Witness State

Started by Leslee, Nov 15, 2001, 03:34:49 PM

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Leslee

I've got some questions about Witness state... Some "strange" things have been happening, especially when going for walks, and I'm wondering if they are related to the Witness state.

The past few walks I've been purposely looking straight ahead of me, as far as I can (also trying to increase my peripheral vision with this). Yet, while my eyes are focused way far ahead, I can see what's directly under my feet, too. I haven't tripped over anything even once, and the "terrain" around here is pretty messed up! Along with this, I've been feeling like I'm looking out a different part of my eyes, a way upper part (hard to explain), and I feel some pressure on the front of my head. I feel like I'm looking from above somewhat.

Anyway, it's like I'm a zombie when I'm in this state. I'm not caring what anyone thinks, I'm not freaking out about the horrible drivers and noises around me, I'm not caring that I'm out of a job, I'm just blank. The body below me is just moving and I don't care about anything. The prana swiggles are everywhere, and I see auras around everything. Sometimes I see dances of lights.

Questions:

1. Is this "zombie" state that I'm experiencing the Witness state? I'm having a hard time pinning it down, but I know it's supposed to be emotionless.

2. Is looking through the third eye part of the Witness state? I ask because mine is SO active when this state happens.

3. Is the heart chakra voice the same or different from the Witness state? I'm wondering how many "beings" I have in me, all different. Since during your free five days I previewed the Devine Beloved lesson, I'm wondering if this one is another different "being" inside of me. Or is it that at some level all of these things are all the same? In essence, I'm confused about the voices and states I'm experiencing. I hope this makes sense, as it's really hard to explain. I'll be happy to clarify any way I can.

Love...





Leslee

What a trip! Last night I had a bunch of bad dreams, and I went into this state while dreaming! Saved my ass, I tell ya! Whatever it is, I'm grateful for it :))))




Mystress

  Try not to analyze too much. Everything is unfolding as it should. Perfection. Blessings!

: What a trip! Last night I had a bunch of bad dreams, and I went into this state while dreaming! Saved my ass, I tell ya! Whatever it is, I'm grateful for it :))))






Leslee

I hope you will answer one thing regarding this, please, Mystress: Are the Witness State, Divine Beloved, Heart Voice, Higher Self, and Goddess all the same thing only different "personalities" of it? The lessons make it seem to me like these are all totally different "entities" so I am feeling confused and leary of moving on in the lessons. My small mind is not comprehending the big picture. (I'm loving the learning, though!)

Thanks and love...

:   Try not to analyze too much. Everything is unfolding as it should. Perfection. Blessings!




Mystress

  In a way, yes... Heh.. you doubt what Goddess tells you, but you really are getting the right answers from within. Trust yourself! :)

 The Witness is Goddess eyes, the heart voice and feelings are Her heart's wisdom, The Beloved is Her hand holding yours, making love to you. They behave differently, they serve different purposes on your path. They may work together or appear independently. They are different aspects of you, your relationship with the Divine.

The Heart Voice is the Inner Guru, the voice of God-dess. Genderless, quiet, loving and kind, sometimes funny but not very emotional. Respectful of free will. It will never push you, and you can only hear it when you are grounded surrendered and not afraid. Built in lie detector that warms and glows in the presence of truth. It can speak to you when you are in the Witness state. You may feel it responding to your thoughts, getting warmer or fading to tell you which thoughts are on the right track. The heart is the interface between you and ALL.. genderless spirit/infinite, all knowing.
 The Divine Beloved is your male side (presumably). The twin soul lover who is Goddess taking form to have a romantic personal relationship with you. Your unconscious. Emotional, but patient, funny, wise, charming. You may not have found yours yet. They can be very shy, especially if you try to chase after them or control them.
 The Witness is an altered state.. not an entity, so much as the part of you that watches the world going by and does not judge or resist. Not emotional at all.. when you are the Witness you are BEING Unconditional love. Feels like nothing to be it, but you may have noticed that people are being really nice to you... you feel yummy to them. No judgments or projections. Being Goddess' eyes. Ego is out of the way for a while. You may hear it making noises as the karma unkinks but you don't fall for it's stories. Surrender is automatic, no resistance.

 The Witness is a transient state, BTW. Often people who are on a fast path up through the chakras/dimensions and have a lot of processing to do, will be put into the witness for days weeks months at a time so that there is no resistance to the processing that is going on, (coz ya don't care) and it is also a nice anaestesia. Better than crying screaming away your karma as it releases!!

  Eventually you pop out to a higher level, which is the fun part... great big fat Buddha belly laugh at the cosmic joke of all creation. Ya know that guy Michael on K-list who is always posting funny poetry? Like him. Like me cracking up laughing my ass off at Sean posting about how every where he goes people tell him their problems. You laugh away the karma as it comes in, and it is Truth that makes you laugh. Truth and beauty. Laughter is a recognition of Truth.

 That part is way more fun than the witness, but you will still move between being laughing buddha and witness and Leslee. What you see as Witness makes you laugh as Buddha.

 You get to move through the altered states of the different perspectives effortlessly to get the whole picture. Like shifting gears.

 You do not get into this phase of spontaneously being the witness, until you have reached a ..well, it is hard to measure, but yeah, past 50% of the way. When you have consciously surrendered enough that the balance is tipped and the momentum begins to carry you into effortless surrender that is the Witness state.
  It is a very positive sign, evidence that "Goddess has it handled". At this point, it is best to not spend too much time analysing, because feeding the ego desire to understand becomes its own sort of resistance. "Shadowspace" comment to you on K-list was exactly right, and it was your own stuff he was reflecting. Your impatience and mistrust of your own insights. :)

 Goddess does not like to fit into the boxes we try to make for Her, and evntually they must be cast aside.  It does not matter how pretty the box may be... the explanations you gather now, as new attachments will become more karma to be surrendered later. To attain Self Realization, I had to leave all the stories behind like excess baggage. Know nothing, Be everything. To write this course, I had to grow a new ego. Custom built, like an actor creating a role.

  That is why my efforts to explain the process must always be a little confusing and incomplete. The explanations are a crutch for your ego, to persuade it to get out of the way of the process so your reistance does not get you beat up anymore...  

  You see, the process changes. Your ego needed a "sales pitch" of explanations in order to be persuaded to sign on the dotted line and choose surrender... in order to get you past the 50% mark/new balance point where the Witness could take over and now that you are there just go with the flow and don't worry. Don't care! Just Be and Goddess has it handled.
 There is no religion or spiritual path in the world that can define Goddess or pigeonhole the awakening process. We make some generalizations... to soothe the ego and put it to sleep, but everyone is unique. You can spend your life comparing people's opinions about the path of K. the name of Goddess, etc... and in the end none of them have the whole truth, because Goddess cannot be contained in a box of words. The truth that matters, is whatever ideas that make your heart feel lighter... :)
   Blessings!


: I hope you will answer one thing regarding this, please, Mystress: Are the Witness State, Divine Beloved, Heart Voice, Higher Self, and Goddess all the same thing only different "personalities" of it? The lessons make it seem to me like these are all totally different "entities" so I am feeling confused and leary of moving on in the lessons. My small mind is not comprehending the big picture. (I'm loving the learning, though!)

: Thanks and love...

: :   Try not to analyze too much. Everything is unfolding as it should. Perfection. Blessings!






Leslee

What a BEAUTIFUL explanation, Mystress. Thank you SO much. Someone once told me that both hemispheres of my brain are equally developed, and I tend to believe this. Sometimes I can just let the intuitive side take over, and truthfully, I like that best. But the other side needs some attention too!

You're right... I'm on my way. And I am turning into a healer before I thought it would be possible. I'm turning everything over to Goddess now, because I can't possibly understand this... Yesterday, I was at a buddy's house, helping him paint his garage, and his overly-jittery and absolutely HUGE dog came up to me. He says something's wrong with her: she twitches and spasms out, gets insane. She's an angel in disguise, I think.

Anyway, she was humping me, knocking me down, throwing her bones in my lap, licking me everywhere (yuch :) ), totally uncontrolled. My buddy says she doesn't do this around anyone but him.

For the hell of it, I put my hands on her head and she stopped moving all of a sudden; her breathing slowed to a crawl. Then she jumped up and laid across my lap, head hanging over my knees, her tongue hanging out, eyes open like in death. I felt the most intense energy going through my hands and coming back to me to and from this animal. I sensed something wrong with her brain for some reason. But I remembered what you told me--that I'm not ready yet to heal. So I gave the energy to Goddess and told her to do with it what should would.

This animal laid there in my lap for an hour, got up and looked me in the eye. Something changed about her. She was calm the whole day. She was playful still but not out of control.

That was so fucking cool. I don't know how, but I fixed my buddy's bum leg and my husband's back spasm by feeling their energy with my hands and then sending some.

I know I'm not supposed to do this stuff until I'm ready, but it feels SO good. I slept 12 HOURS last night. I haven't had a good night's sleep in over a half year. Maybe Goddess wants me to do this, because I've never felt so at peace.

Now that I know I'm on the right path, I'll have an easier time surrendering.

I have to remember, though, that any gifts do not make me special. Sometimes I find myself feeling special, and I know that's the road to hell for me.

Bless you for your time, your patience, and your caring.




Mystress

  It is lovely to see you growing! Lifted up by faith... beautiful! I knew you could do it. Proud of you...

 Goddess has led you to do some healing, to facilitate your faith and surrender. It is not about what other people need. You know this, so stay focused inward.

 If Goddess within you has decided it is time to do some healing work, then my preferences are meaningless. It will be OK, so long as you stick with doing what you are doing:

1) only moving to heal if it seems Goddess Will for all concerned.
2) allowing Her to handle it, through you, and keeping your ego opinions of what you think needs to be done, out of the way.
3) Staying humble and avoid getting too "special" about being a vessel.

  The miracles are blissful, joyous, amazing... give all thanks and credit to Goddess and keep your ego out of it... both in the work itself, and in the celebration afterwards.

 That is the secret to success. The best healers will always tell you, that they are only the messenger. The vessel, the conduit for a higher power working through them. They are not simply being modest. If their ego gets in the way then the healing gift is polluted, and may fade. It is like love, you can only hold it by constantly letting it go. It is love... :) Love cannot be owned, forced or controlled, or given a timetable.  

 I know, being a vessel of miracles can be quite a blissful kick, and that is part of why the biggest lesson is discernment. Knowing when to act, and more importantly, when not to.

  When you first feel the bliss of it, you may want to run out and do healing on everyone you meet... don't. Stay focused inward.
 That is the trap, get addicted to the bliss, and you may start looking for illness and dis-ease in everyone, so that you have something to fix, instead of seeing Goddess Perfection in what Is.

 That is the first step down a slippery slope of projecting illness onto people so that you can play hero savior. Pretty soon you create a reality where you are surrounded by needy sick people who want your attention 24/7... but who may not actually be willing to surrender the stuff. You have already found out how not blissful that experience is!
 Then before ya know it, the projections start smacking ya in the head, and you are about to get crucified. You are in the garden going "Oh shit what did I do, let this cup pass from me, somebody help me get out of this". etc... heh heh heh.. :) Don't go there.

 Well, I thought I'd pass that on. Goddess has probably already told you something similar. You are doing great! Blessings...

:I sensed something wrong with her brain for some reason. But I remembered what you told me--that I'm not ready yet to heal. So I gave the energy to Goddess and told her to do with it what should would.
: I know I'm not supposed to do this stuff until I'm ready, but it feels SO good. I slept 12 HOURS last night. I haven't had a good night's sleep in over a half year. Maybe Goddess wants me to do this, because I've never felt so at peace.

: Now that I know I'm on the right path, I'll have an easier time surrendering.

: I have to remember, though, that any gifts do not make me special. Sometimes I find myself feeling special, and I know that's the road to hell for me.

: Bless you for your time, your patience, and your caring.