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Protection from Other's Energy

Started by c-light, Nov 04, 2001, 05:30:36 PM

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c-light

It sounds like Sean and I may be experiencing some of the same things regarding taking on other's energy.

I feel disappointed that you spent an hour writing me an answer to my questions about Protection that I never got to see.  

The site you gave me to help explain the difficulty I am having really helped me to understand alittle of what is going on for me.  Interestingly enough, they are in Oakland and so am I.  Perhaps I will contact them.  

I used the clearing techniques they suggested and had no problems after the group meditation this week.  I did not however feel brave enough to attend the Woman's Spiritual Group where the energy is soooo powerful.  I just could not face feeling ill again. And I don't know how to stop it from happening.  

It may be that I am not grounded enough???  I certainly feel the energy coming up my legs, but then I feel the energy all over my body. I can't really stop it from doing what it wants to me when I am in the surrendered state. Can I?  

I will contact you to set up an appointment for some private time where perhaps you can also help me unclog my ears(Head) that feels like they will explode. I have been having this problem for some time.  I feel like it is blocked energy??






Mystress

: It sounds like Sean and I may be experiencing some of the same things regarding taking on other's energy.

I experience it too, and there are no easy answers. There are coping techniques.

: I feel disappointed that you spent an hour writing me an answer to my questions about Protection that I never got to see.  

Well. me too.. and so I shall try to reconstruct it.

First, you can look at the phenomena from two polarized perspectives. One, that we are Holy Boddhisattva martyrs incarnated to process the worlds karma, and our suffering is Goddess work.. or two, that we are meddling and poking into other folks karma where we do not belong, and then complaining when we get our poking noses bent out of shape.

 Well, they are both true, and the latter is the higher chakra view!!! In nonduality, there are no good or bad emotions. We are nothing so nothing "sticks" inside us to make us uncomfortable. No judgments to slow the passage of sharing. Everything is Goddess, and there are no heroes or victims, no suffering but what the soul chooses to experience.

  From that level, the very act of judging someone as needing fixing, or protecting yourself from empathy will cause you to fall from grace.

 The duality of protection is fear. You do not try to protect yourself unless you are afraid of something... there really is only fear itself, to fear. So, in creating protection, you are giving energy to fear.. which is not likely to give good results, like faith would.

 The place to be, is the middle path... that means looking for consensuality in your energy exchanges, looking for perfection, and avoiding the "road to hell of Good intentions" that comes of projecting hidden or conscious ego judgments. No protection, and no attachment, or projection. Becoming soverign in your energy so that your emotional security needs are fed from source within you, and also pulling your field inward, close around you so you are not invading other people's space.

 I do not live in nonduality all the time, and in the lower chakra universe, you have to accept that there is duality and energy hygiene is just part of life in a body.

 However, you are not helpless... you are the Goddess of your own life, on every level whether you are feeling it, or not... and so the worst thing you can do is to give your power away by sinking into victimhood.
 Blaming someone else for how you feel, is giving your power away to them, making them be Goddess for you. Getting fully responsible for your own life takes mindfullness and discipline.

  You have to own something, before you can surrender it... taking and giving responsibility for what Is, to anyone but Goddess gets into a messy argumentative energy dynamic. It may leave you feeling beat up.

: The site you gave me to help explain the difficulty I am having really helped me to understand a little of what is going on for me.  Interestingly enough, they are in Oakland and so am I.  Perhaps I will contact them.  

 Ken and I do not agree on some things, but his insights were very useful for me to get a handle on my uncontrolled empathy, and you have my blessing to go see him. Tell him I said Hi..

 To his thoughts, I would add an understanding of Tantric unity (empathy) and how it affects the flow of karma and energy. Empathy comes of the heart chakra, and the heart is the place of boundary and unity of the lower chakra universe of perceptions of good, evil, individuality, duality... and the upper chakra universe where Goddess is All that Is.

  When you are feeling someone else's feelings, it is because you two have become one, via your opened heart... and when that happens, the spiritual energy has a "water finds it's own level" effect.
 The person who has a higher vibe will dump energy into the person with the lower vibe, and get back their karma in return, so that they are brought to approximately the same place.

 Imagine, if a cup of water meets a cup of sand, and the result is two identical cups that are half water, and half sand.

 Now, to a certain extent, normal life contains a flow and sharing of energy.. so like Ken suggests, you have to take time every day to clear yourself, just like you have to take time to go to the bathroom and brush your teeth, and all the other needful rituals of bodily maintenance. For empaths, mindfullness to energy hygiene is just added to that, and you have to accept it just like you had to accept puberty.

 There are some bonuses, the same empathy allows you to find out what it is like, to be a hawk soaring, or a mountain. There is a universe of beautiful experiences that can come from empathy, including intimacy like some folks only dream of.

 However, you will be getting a lot less sand kicked at you, if you quit going around spraying  your water at every one you meet! Does not matter whether your intention is to send love or judgments, it is still a projection and you must learn to turn it inward, and respect other people's personal energy space/boundaries. Live and let live!

 One fascinating property of the heart chakra, is that it has the whole manifest universe inside of it, along with the still small voice.

 Love the reflection of things, that is in the universe of your heart... Goddess within yourself, and trust Her to handle the illusion of externals. Pray that Goddess has it handled.

 If you do this, She shall... and that is when you start getting spontaneous miracles and way less empathy torture. The energy field the Buddha sets up by gazing into his own navel, is totally different than our judgmental efforts to "help" each other. It is blissful and non-intrusive.
 Where your attention goes, so follows your energy. Direct it inwards.. gaze into your own heart, or navel... :) Strengthen the connection to Goddess within yourself, then it won't matter so much what other people do.

 You have to love yourself, before you can love anyone else, and on a higher level, you are All.. so focus inward, with your blessings and your ego judgments.

  (Some yogis say, that the highest peak of enlightenment happens after you have fully opened all centers and brought the heart soul presence down into the navel chakra of duality. That is really, bringing the soul down to live in the body, while aware of the illusion. )

 Of course, there is the third thing... those spontaneous acts of compassion that are not premeditated or have expectations of success or reward. Then it is Goddess acting through you, She will provide, and there will be no illness or negative karma feedback afterwards. Learning the discernment of that, is learning to have the silent mind of a Zen Master... and the empathy is there to support you, by beating you up until you learn it. :)

 It is not about protecting yourself... if you stop shooting projections at people, you will no longer need to shop for a bulletproof vest.

  Free Will is Goddess Law, and anytime you trample on that in any way, with your "good intentions", or ego judgments of what you think needs fixing, Goddess will smack your head. I am doing it consensually, as Goddess wills, in my role as "teacher", and I still get a whack sometimes. Cannot teach, without judging and the discernment to reflect judgments instead of making them can be a risky leap of faith.

  Light, your choice to "hold the group" brought you into Tantric unity with them, and also your choice of leadership made you responsible for all the stuff you took on. Your projecting energy stirred up their stuff and it flowed into you as the one responsible.
  Karma follows responsibility.. shit flows uphill, to where the buck stops. Your K. going to work processing what came in, is part of what made the intensity so great. The alchemy of transmutation can be blissful... if there is no resistance. However, likely a certain number of people were not willing to surrender the stuff you stirred up, and so it got stuck in you and made you ill. It is your own doing, because they did not ask you to be their savior... or even if they did, it does not necessarily follow that they are actually willing to follow through on surrender.
  Saviors sometimes get crucified... think of that, when you get the impulse to save or fix.. it will remind you to be humble. :)

 If you are really seeing Goddess in them, then you will know Goddess within them has it handled and there is nothing to be "saved".

 Seeing Goddess in someone, is a more empowering projection than seeing someone who needs to be "fixed"... but some people may be resistant to seeing Goddess within themselves.

 A projection is a projectile. If you want the empathy war to stop, then quit shooting. Look for love and approval, from source within yourself and realize the judgments you make tell a lot more about you, than that which you judge. So, observe what you judge, and get to know yourself better.

 Sean, you have often spewed your judgments of how awful people are... do you know that your private thoughts ate heard by their unconscious, which is as telephathic as you are... even if their ego is not aware of the incoming energy. Your judgments are an aggressive act, throwing darts... and you get back the emotional junk you stir up.

 When you mentioned your accident and loss of mobility, it made me wonder. Have you had any kind of grief counselling to come to terms with your loss? Grief is a process, and feeling angry at yourself and the world is one stage of it. Reading some info about the stages of grief and dealing with loss might be very insightful for you getting a perspective of where you are at. If you are going around bristling with unreleased grief and anger, like a 6 foot porcupine, then poking people is inevitable.

 That stuff is not really about them, they are a reflection of how you see yourself, and that is where your healing love and attention needs to be focused.

 I am not perfect at this stuff either, and I still get burnt out with empathy sometimes. In my role of being a teacher, I become a something instead of a nothing, and so stuff can stick.

 If I/when I was living in the upper chakra universe, full time I see perfection, and there is no need to teach anyone anything. You are Goddess too. You could ask your own heart voices about this, and it would give you answers. None of you really need me, but you believe you do, so Goddess provides... when the student is ready the teacher appears, as they say.

 All day every day people ask me for my blessings... and to some extent, any projection, even a consensual exchange of blessings results in some empathy and incoming sand. It is just part of the work, and I know when I have too much sand because I start dreaming of running off to Fiji to paint, like Gaugin. :)  

: I used the clearing techniques they suggested and had no problems after the group meditation this week.  I did not however feel brave enough to attend the Woman's Spiritual Group where the energy is soooo powerful.  I just could not face feeling ill again. And I don't know how to stop it from happening.  

The techniques you learned from Ken, do stop it from happening, to a large extent. It will take some time and practice, for you to learn to trust in it, and it is good for you to be gentle with yourself. Keep doing them, and you will gradually gain confidence in yourself and your ability to stay clear and anchored in your own space and self.

 What I will mostly do, is teach you more specific ways of energy hygiene, by giving you a scrub and explaining how so you can learn it. We will also go into how to find cords that allows your energy to leak to other people, and how to break those connections so you are soverign in your energy.

   Blessings!






Sean


Hello,

: I will contact you to set up an appointment for some private time where perhaps you can also help me unclog my ears(Head) that feels like they will explode. I have been having this problem for some time.  I feel like it is blocked energy??)


Well I'm new to all of this too, but I can relate to the energy in your head. For me it was that my top charkra was closed and all of that energy was slamming into my head with no place to go. In another list Mystress said to open that up and ask for it to stay open to let the energy flow. I felt SOO much better after that. More like a conduit than an energy bomb about to go off. I could really feel it flow up and out. Neat. Just a thought...


I started going to a drumming circle to.. Cool.

Lets stay in touch...


Sean