Sharing experience and insight about nihilism and emptiness of mind.

[Duu]

In last couple of weeks a certain views of nihilism started to form in me
even when I had already well understood the guidance that Godess is all that is.
Simply something was wrong.  And I didnt know what or where.

Godess led me to one teaching of a 8th century Tibetan zen master being explained.
Teaching was just 5 lines.

Content of mind is the mind
Mind is empty
Emptiness is clear light
Clear light is connection
Connection is great bliss

I dwelt in past weeks in places of grate calmness and emptiness. There was no mind just just emptiness. And it was calming and cleaning. A sort of detached, nihilistic. But there was no joy arrising, no brightness in mind. It was because there was still a duality present. And I believed on top of that that such a thing as emptiness exists as if outside of awarness. This was all just rest of a mind habit from the usual observation of external objects.

Therefore as instructed I observed emptiness of mind, no-mind closer and found out that emptiness is the awareness. And for a moment I was the awareness itself looking back at me before the duality was identified as the same. I saw it actually visually as a shimmering of the black space. Clear light, Godess. Clear meaning shapeless, open, nondimensioanl.  Light meanig awake, bright awarness.

At first I saw there is no mind to be found and later also found out there is no such thing as “empty”. Thus a sentence “empty mind” is for me  just a very symbolic statement. To use words that are 3D, based on material world can be a subtle trap of belief system when in spiritual world. And such belief system will by used by mind habitualness to skip the alert observation at a place where it is extra needed. Other than that the truth was not occluded.
The trap of nihilistic view and of belief that such a thing as emptiness does relay exists, aside from its symbolic and metaphorical meaning was for me a serious issue, block. Error of applying of habitual thinking from material world to internal world. Not being enough observant. Budhist and Tantrikas knew this long time ago.
It is I believe a mistake to consider just emptiness for the natural state of the mind. It will lead to nihilism and will block flow of shakti. The alert observer will notice the all pervasive clear light, Godess even when there is nothing at all to observe. And thus conects to source.

[Martin]

Thank you, Duu.

Your thoughts brought to my mind the teachings of Nagarjuna.

He teaches about the emptiness of inherent existence. The works that I have read are often quite dry, but they seek, through logical reasoning, to show that all positions that one may take with regard to objects of the mind are incorrect. 

Crucially, and this is why respond to your post, Duu, he teaches about the Emptiness of his own doctrine.

Emptiness is called Shunyata and the doctrine is correctly called not just Shunyata but, Shunyata-Shunyata - which means the Emptiness of Emptiness.

I remember reading Nagarjuna while studying nihilistic philosophers, and although at that stage, and still, I had not explored emptiness in the way that you have been doing, the reasoning which Nagarjuna presented regarding the emptiness of emptiness really helped, I guess, in my not taking my nihilistic philosophy without a healthy dose of faith.

love

Martin

[Sigmund]

Impressive, Duu.  Always good to remember.  Namaste.

[Duu]

Hi Martin, hi Sigmund
yes the term emptiness is especially important term to most branches of Buddhism.
But then they also commonly have a warning about nihilism as well.
I did not guess what they meant, in a personal level. It appears as contradiction ie. great emptiness but no nihilism, also speak of emptiness and then about the light right after.

So when thinking about it we are at a koan level already and have no other solution that to find it out experientially, for our mind will not help us here anymore.

Love. Duu

[Mystress]

  Goddess is the nothingness. The sacred space where creation happens.

  At first the nothing seems like nothing, but gradually as ego erodes and you become nothing, you discover the Nothing is so full, alive with consciousness and infinite creative potential.

  Early in 1996 I had an experience where I was catapulted into the starry void, watching this planet being born... Voice said "I am infinite, nameless, nothing... and I am you."

  The experience was so astonishing and disorienting that I actually spent a few days looking in Goddess encyclopedias trying to find which one was nameless... makes no sense!  I discovered a shift of thought I could be one or the other.

   Sweet submissive man I had known slightly for a few years had come by to help with some things.  Afterwards I went to play with him... I was standing, deciding what to do with him as he knelt at my feet looking into my eyes...Strange impulse of thought, I shifted... There was no outward change but he saw it in my eyes! Started shaking, gasped "Goddess" and fell over.

  I remember two distinct thoughts, as if two minds. One was sheer astonishment that he had recognized the Presence, and named it! Goddess. The other was a calm, very matter of fact recognition. "Oh... looks like I got another one. Wonder what he will be for?"

  Well.. he is for keeping always and I hear my druid coming in the door from work now..."Hello Mystress I am home!"  Yes.

  I have an arranged marriage. Goddess gave him to me, laid him at my feet. I give thanks for him every day. The Nothing, is active.