living from heart or power chakra?

[John Black]

i have been focused on living from my heart for a long time now.  Mystress says to be living from the power chakra. i asked my heart if i should be living from my power chakra instead and i got a nice warm expanding feeling from my chest and diaphragm. i have spent alot of time being in my heart and meditating on my heart as the center of my conscience. being in my heart is great and i have had many wonderful experiences from it with no not negative side affects so far. but i do feel some truth to living from the power chakra.

honestly, i am pretty confused now.

     i do a meditation where the love radiates from my heart to the heart of every being everywhere. is this an example of not respecting boundaries? i am not sure if living from the power chakra is such a great idea. what are the negative side affects of living from the heart? Mystress said something about being crucified but i have yet to be crucified in a literal or non literal way.

W L & L,
john

[TwinDragon]

The main thing (I think) is that the heart chakra conciousness of unconditional love and the heart chakra universe, doesn't know of the boundaries of free will/divine will, which lie in the power chakra universe. It is the power chakra that discerns whether something is right action or not. I try to listen to and live from both of these chakra points/chakra universes.

An example may be that empathy is an aspect of the heart chakra universe, yet the discernment to use it or not propably is a power chakra aspect of discernment.

The heart chakra doesn't know of the boundaries of the body, which also is found in the power chakra. (In my experience also the body-mind connection is found in the second chakra)

Maybe someone else can explain this better than me at this time...

[John Black]

yeah, that makes some since. it seems to me that the heart knows everything, it knows whats best for everything everywhere.  so how could it not respect boundaries? since the power chakra is associated with power and mental thoughts, would'nt it be associated with the mind and ego? and if i was living from power chakra wouldnt i be living from the ego/mind? 

[Duu]

hi Jhon,

It is a bit unusal advice you got. I think Im missing perhaps a part of the statement.
Living or embracing the power chakra is not avoiding,judjing, supressing the content it represents.
For our time it can be agresion, hierachical strucures, control-domination and other.
So living in a realm of power chakra when this issues are not cleared, embraced is in fact  a great suffering, confusion
and escape to heart chakra or elswhere, usualy in our head somwhere away from reality is seen
as the good or only option.
But trough this course there will be many times where third chakra issues come to be cleared
and in time living in the third chakra will be quite nice. As our civilization is
an expresion of us and expresion of our dominant structures that are I think at mostly third chakra based
clearing our own third chakra can mean clearing relationship to the world out there.
It is ment on symbolic level. I think as a part of our evoluition so Im not thinking
that it means to actualy moove to live there, but just embracing whatever is in there and not
escaping from it. In fact we live in all our chakras at once in diferent modes depending on their clearing, opening of mysterious petals.
We can live in one aspect more out of choice or necesity but it can also be just an escape.
Many spiritual ways see the world and for the fact the lower chakras as evil or at best dark.
They would consider aproach to embrace them as heretic. But I think there is no way how we can skip them
in our evoluition if in fact we want any evolution to happen on internal or external level.
Yet unfortunately duality realm means presence of pain, that is unavoidable as well.
Since we no longer judge duality and evolution and the necesery conflicts it brings as bad or evil. We cant judge pain as bad or evil.
Crucified maybe but crying about it, not yet.
(I sometimes cry about the stuff and wounds, yes, I could tell you stories. But as DB says this is lovely good fairytails you can write a book about it.
But I rather not Seen what can happen. So I just let things go)

The old tibetan text sometimes say about such meditation of sending love that it is there in fact to heal us internaly and not others.
And perhaps even seeing that they are others is a view to be healed.
Sending love in this way is a lovely budhist meditation. But It can be seen as not respecting boundaries it the way that the others did not ask for it.
And it is our judjment or belif of the moment that they need the love, that they are needy.
Well yes, people are needing love, they are sleeping, living uncocious lifes ruled by ego. In pain. But is pain bad?
We could then judge pain, evolution a whole duality life as bad. Or in fact as some nonfuctional perversion, monster
that we need to fix trough our love.
We are part of life and we will act as life moves us, part of it will be act of kindness and other games of life.
But for balnced philosophy, view, it is good to look at our belief systems first.

[edward]

This post is right on the spot. Especially Duu's answer.

I'm on yoga teacher training this week (and the next week  and the coming fall also). Anyway, the master teacher, sent energy up trough my feet when we were doing savasana, and she said that the energy was stuck in my power chakra. The next time she sent energy up my feet, I focused on surrendering issues from the power chakra, and what came up was that I was no victim, and that I often give away my power.

How often I try to be loveable, agreeable, cheerfull and nice instead of being myself and set the record straight.

My strategy has for a long time been to avoid stuff, by living from the higher chakras, when faced with stuff I don't like. Thinking all is One, so it is okay to be abused.

Anyway, she asked me to start teaching beginner yoga classes from this fall, and she says that it is very important to get these  issues clear, otherwise the students might suck energy out of me and leaving me exhausted.

I feel more empowered now, and the power chakra is starting to feel much better. It's been like having a Porsche for so long time, but no driver's license.

Yes, on one level all is illusion and is One, but when attacked by a gang of hungry wolves, you can't think that is okay to get attacked because all is One - you listen to power chakra and get away, or slay them if, that's possible. That is Goddess, and unconditional love too.


Edward

[John Black]

mmm    i like the pack of wolves analogy.

[ant]

i haven't ben attacked by wolves,
i have been attacked repeatedly by a pack of teen age males
i was living high on Jesus at the time, and never stand up for myself
i was living in my upper chackras, or so i thought
but when i felt my life was in danger
i sure did fight for it,  it was kind of out of body experience

don't think one can live out of one chackra
but if you wanna try, OK
i think that when the wolves attacked
you will respond in your best interest any way

ant


 

[ant]

well actually it might be better to stand up for self right away,
then you don't have to kick wolf ass,
ant

[edward]

Ant,

Do you really think that you will be able to react in the best way for you,  if you are not anchored in the body and not aware of it's boundaries getting stepped over?

Edward

i think that when the wolves attacked
you will respond in your best interest any way

ant

[TwinDragon]

Mostly when I feel my boundaries are about to be stepped over, I show energeticly with my entire body that I don't want that. And then folks doesn't overstep them in the first step. It's like I send out a signal, "hey here's nothing for you"...

People often follow instinct, so instinctively people will sense to not overstep one's boundaries if you can really show and really know where that line goes. But you have to be present in the body and the power chakra.

Been struggeling with really getting this for a while... Practice practice practice! My power chakra is getting better...

We are like animals, animals aren't evil or anything, they just have really clear rules. And that's all Goddess...

[ant]

Hello Edward,
Thanks for the responce,

Mostly i was talking what happened in my past,
my mind set at the time was to be like Jesus,
so to die for not deffending myself was viewed as a good thing in my mind. i did follow up that post with this: "well actually it might be better to stand up for self right away,"

so yes, i agree one should stand up for your bowdries

But don't see nothing wrong with trying to live from heart
and what happens to you

ant

[Mystress]

Hello John:

   I think you are misunderstanding a little bit. I didn't say to live from the power chakra. Its about a gender difference, women are naturally centered in the heart and men are naturally centered in the power chakra.  Part of the reason why the path of surrender is harder for men.  If you read posts with senses open, especially chat, you will feel womens chat energy touches your heart and male chat energy touches your power chakra... its a way to detect birth gender in situations of online anonymity. 

  I don't really advise people of what chakra to live from, although living entirely in the upper chakras isnt wise because you lose touch with the body wisdom. I teach discernment which gets advice of both heart and power chakra. The center of your consciousness is your soul and it usually hangs out between the two, but a little closer to the power chakra to be able to communicate to you, what is the path of your dharma.

  Your heart has the entire universe in it, so send love to the people inside your heart instead of projecting it outwards. That way Goddess delivers as She knows best.

[John Black]

aaaahhh okay