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question about Carla's crown chakra blockage

Started by Percyval, Sep 10, 2000, 01:22:59 PM

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Percyval


Mystress, i am still quite curious about the particular block of the crown chakra that Carla spoke of... from what i'd experienced, blocks usually block the energy going up as well as the energy going down... but Carla wrote:

"I feel like my crown is blocked - it's much easier to 'feel' the earth energy than the sky energy - I can get the warmth but it's difficult to get it to open up and let the light down - seems to go up and out more readily.  Like there's a cork that will get pushed out but not in."

since she apparently can feel the earth energy going up through it, i was wondering if perhaps it is not really a block... could it be that there is another reason why she just is unable to identify or let in the sky energy?

when i first started doing my 45 days of grounding, there were times when i could not feel or see the light coming in from above... at that time, you encouraged me to just proceed as if it were coming in even if i don't see it, and that worked out very well for me...

another thing that i like to do nowadays, is to absorb the sky energy into all of my chakras while laying flat on my back... it feels kind of like sun bathing in the sky energy... (actually, i've learned to do complete grounding exercise from this position... although i had been doing the grounding for a couple of years before attempting it, so this might be confusing for beginners to try).

Mystress, i have one more question about the sky energy that we take in during the grounding exercise... and perhaps it is stupid question from someone who has studied with you for so long... is the sky energy that we take in during the grounding exercise of form of shakti? Or is it prana?  in other places i have heard it described as the "Shiva" energy (from duality Shiva and Shakti)... although the energy is what it is, and i have been able to work with it, the names and concepts for this have always eluded me...

warmly,

percyval




Mystress

   Hello:

: Mystress, i am still quite curious about the particular block of the crown chakra that Carla spoke of... from what i'd experienced, blocks usually block the energy going up as well as the energy going down.>>>

 Advanced students ask harder questions.. :) I dunno the answer, why don't you check with your own guidance.? ;P
 I asked Goddess and I've already shared the info I got..  
 Having said that.. it could be many things. Personally, I think it is perceptual. If she was not getting the downflow then it would be harder for her to spark the upflow. It could also simply be that she is meant to follow a path of deep surrender to Divine will. So she is not getting much Prana but a powerful flow of Shakti, which is all she needs. Thus, I advised her to let the Shakti work on the blockages, and they will go away in time.

 Some folks only get Shakti, others only work with Prana. Some, like me, get to work with both, which can be really tricky. Sometimes when I surrender and say "It will be as Goddess Wills", my heart voice says "Thou Art Goddess". Very annoying! My monkey mind is not smart enough to make those kinds of decisions, but Goddess gave me dominant DNA and so it goes.

 I have learned to interpret it as a message to "Follow your Bliss". So I have to contemplate my options from a grounded state and feel in my body, which path has the most blissful energy around it.

The thing about crown chakra blockages, is that removing all of them all at once can really rock your world. Opening the crown fully is opening to a huge flow of information that not everybody is ready for. You need time to grow into it.

 I advise slow and steady pacing. Goddess has it handled.

 Carla was already awakened when we met.. Every awakening is unique, some folks awaken to the sky energy and work their way down to the root, working with Prana before they awaken the Kundalini. Others open at the root and work their way up then down again. In this course, we open the crown to let the light in and the root enough to let the Earth energy in, then focus on opening and clearing the heart, and get the heart to awaken the Kundalini. A middle path. Heart is the center chakra of the rainbow. But, some folks get awakened from the grounding without making the conection to the heart-voice. Uniqueness.

 Each chakra opens not once, but many times, each time another petal of the lotus unfolds and perceptions expand a little bigger. The process of K. never really stops, there is no limit to Bliss. Chakras open and reopen wider.

<<<: "I feel like my crown is blocked - it's much easier to 'feel' the earth energy than the sky energy - I can get the warmth but it's difficult to get it to open up and let the light down - seems to go up and out more readily.  Like there's a cork that will get pushed out but not in.">>>>
 Again, seems perceptual. If you are feeling the warmth and you are getting enough energy to spark the upflow from the Earth, then no worries. The upflow will blow out the cork at a pace that is right for you.

<<<<: since she apparently can feel the earth energy going up through it, i was wondering if perhaps it is not really a block... could it be that there is another reason why she just is unable to identify or let in the sky energy? >>>>

 Sure.. but remember, reasons are of the ego.. you are not a novice, so ask yourself why you need reasons?

<<<: when i first started doing my 45 days of grounding, there were times when i could not feel or see the light coming in from above... at that time, you encouraged me to just proceed as if it were coming in even if i don't see it, and that worked out very well for me... >>>>
 Yep. Goddess has it handled.

<<>>>
 Kewl!!

<<<<: Mystress, i have one more question about the sky energy that we take in during the grounding exercise... and perhaps it is stupid question from someone who has studied with you for so long... is the sky energy that we take in during the grounding exercise of form of shakti? Or is it prana?  in other places i have heard it described as the "Shiva" energy (from duality Shiva and Shakti)... although the energy is what it is, and i have been able to work with it, the names and concepts for this have always eluded me... >>>>>

 Yes, it is a stupid question.. :) LOL!! Just kidding.. it is not really an answerable question, for the level you are at. Depends on how you choose to think of it.

 Perceptions.. there are no religions or conceptualizations that can really explain the infinite.. we make stories to soothe the ego into surrender, but that does not mean the stories are true. If we believe them, they become true for us, and the choice of beliefs is not really about Truth, but about what is most effective for  spiritual growth and a fulfilling life.

Eventually you attain a silent mind that doesn't wonder about the stories, "Know nothing, Be everything". On that level of existence they are all true and none are true. Crazy contradictory higher chakra stuff. At that point you can start inventing new religions.. LOL!!

 Someone recently (Horia from K-list) was preaching to me about how Kundalini Shakti is energy and Shiva is consciousness. I told him to stuff it..:) His Guru is not my Guru, he is working from a Patriarchal paradigm.

 I conceptualize it the other way around. Goddess the Void gave birth to Her consort, the Light and between them they created everything else. I choose to believe that and share it because I find that is a useful conceptualization for duality-space and the Western mind. Some folks imagine the sky energy as blue and the Earth energy as red. I teach you to imagine them both as white light, because it is easier and it works.

 Everything looks different inside-out anyhow. The center of the Earth is light and the center of the sun is black. Duality.

 So to me Shakti is consciousness and Shiva is the sky light energy. Shaki cannot really be controlled, She has a mind of her own, but Prana can. Fem-dom.  I conceptualize the sky energy as Prana and the Earth energy as Shakti, but Goddess is All that Is, so is it all Shakti? It is all born of Shakti and exists in Her infinite womb. Yet, She gives us Free Will and Prana to play with. Prana is everywhere, in the sky and in the Earth and in the life that exists on the Earth. Prana is made by trees, so is there prana in the stars? I dunno.

 Everything is made of light. E=MC2. Yet, it is held in form by consciousness. Without consciousness there would not be creation, but consciousness is a property of matter. I think, therefore I am, I am, therefore I think. Does I rock think? I've had some interesting conversations with rocks, especially crystals. Yet, thinking is a function of ego and the Zen Master has a silent mind. I vanish in my mirror because I am *not*.. I am nothing.. yet, I AM.

 Martial artists work with Prana and bend it to their will, but if the K awakens then they need to learn to surrender to Divine Will. Seen from a Higher chakra, everything that happens is Divine Will, we are led carrot-and-stick to make the choices Goddess wills and Free Will is illusion.

 Yet, Free Will is a gift of Goddess and She allows us to have the experience of Free Will... and most folks don't experience Divine Will directly, .. but, still everything is unfolding as it should.  

On the level of All that is, Spirit is genderless and it doesn't care what you call it, it just Is.  LOL!!

 Have I confused you enough, yet? Zen koans are confusing because confusion makes way for new insights. Get confused enough, you give up looking for reasons and then the monkey mind shuts up so you can just Be.

 If you research the topic, you will find many contradictory opinions. Such as: some interpret the pics of Shakti standing on Shiva to mean that She is dominant, and others say it is because He is the ground She springs from, as a flower springs from the Earth. That would mean Shiva is giving birth to Shakti. Doesn't work for me, as a concept... but really it's a chicken and egg question. If time does not exist, then what does "first" mean?  

 Some folks say all psychic phenomena is Kundalini, others say that the third eye can open from the sy energy without awakening the K. Which one is true? Well, in a universe of limitless manifestation, everything you can think of, must occur somewhere, or else the universe would not be infinite. What is true for the individual, is what works best for their unique manifestation.
  Fun question, percyval.. the answer is that there are no answers and many answers. Pick the one you like best, and go with it!
   Blessings..

PS: To the newbie students: Every chakra has an eye that sees a different dimensional universe, and some of the universes contradict each other.. different perceptions, different rules. This post skips back and forth among them plafully which you may find very confusing. Don't worry about it. I'm just being playful with a graduate student who is playing at being a novice.






Percyval

thank you, Mystress... there is so much wonderful information in your answer that i will need to read it over several times to absorb it all... my reason for asking was curiosity, and a desire to hear some further elaboration from you about these things...

also, i hope to contribute to making the Tea Room a more active and interesting place... i hope that my participation here is a help to the other students, and does not confuse them with too much information too soon... please let me know if my questions and comments become counterproductive...

as far as the Light from above and below goes, it does feel to me like it is all the same energy... it just seems to take on slightly different flavor based on whether it comes from above or below... during the grounding exercise, it feels like i am acting on Mother Earth's behalf in gathering up the light from above, in much the same way as a tree does... and the Earth feels grateful for my contribution to its nourishment, as i feel grateful to the Earth and Sky for nourishing me...

warmly,

percyval