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Started by Sinisa, Nov 15, 2001, 06:39:33 AM

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Sinisa

Hi again,

I have one more question:

-can be sexual fetish used as pasive object ( link to Goddess ) in meditation?
I am interested about that aspect of human spirituality: what is in human mind related to fetishes especially nylons or latex that can be used like a trigger? On that way fetishes can be like pointers to the higher (orgasmic) states of
mind.

Thanks,
Sinisa







Mystress

  Holy cow, big question!
  The short answer is, yes.

  The longer answer is, use the sexual fetish response to raise energy and redirect it to burn off your karma.

  Rather than focusing on the goal: orgasm, focus on the feelings of excitement and desire rising upwards, spreading through your body like smoke from a fire. Keep stoking the desire and surrendering it so Goddess transmutes it to Shakti... you may start to shiver and tremble with desire-kriyas.
 Postpone orgasm, as long as possible, interrupting yourself over and over. Before orgasm shift your attention from the external fetish object, to gratitude to Goddess within yourself for the pleasure that a body can feel. For having a body to feel with.

 The intensity will also give you endorphin, which is like Goddess given happy pills so stuff does not bug you so much.

 All weekend I was getting waves of desire, and enjoying them just for themselves, not acting on them. By sunday night, even tho I was reading about photoshop design tips, I was experiencing K-fired mini-orgasms and shivers, exquisite electric pleasure radiating through my belly.

  When it got so intense that I could not think of anything else, I took it as a message to do some tantra magic. I had an orgy with myself, to raise my vibration with a vibrator... LOL!! Variety from shower tantra.
 I was reading every kind of pornography.. random stories from the alt.sex.stories. archive to fuel the desire, and switching focus inward to gratitude and heart bliss before/during orgasm. Some stories I liked better than others, but my focus was "all acts of love and pleasure serve the Goddess". Keeping an open mind, reminding myself that it was all ficton. Illusion.

 Eventually I ended up in an archive of lesbian D/s mind control stories, which were easy to mentally redirect into surrendering my ego junk to Goddess within myself. Then, to no stories or focus but the ecstatic movement of the energy itself.

  Lost count of orgasms, but after about 6 hours of this, I was in an ecstatic, electric altered state that felt like an acid trip... fell into it for several hours meditation.  Plenty of energy and focus to clear out some karma junk stuff that had been persistently clogging my system, that would not clear from a lower vibe/chakra/dimension.

 Now I am in a higher vibration dimension I call "Avalon", I recognise it by the golden light I see gently coloring everything and the Peace and joy is in my heart. Not done yet, home is one vbration/dimension higher than this. I think my belly muscles need to rest, tho!

 With sex tantra, both genders postpone orgasm as long as possible, interrupting themselves to raise energy. After that, it changes. Women charge up with multiple orgasm, which eventially breaks through to extended orgasm.. orgasmic states that last for minutes, hours... days, in case of some Kundalites. Men make a shift into having orgasms without ejaculation, then they also go to multiple non-ejaculation orgasms, then extended ones.
 This trains the procreative, sexual energy to go inward and upward. This information is not in level one of FST because it is intended for the next section. :)

  blessings...


: Hi again,

: I have one more question:

: -can be sexual fetish used as pasive object ( link to Goddess ) in meditation?
: I am interested about that aspect of human spirituality: what is in human mind related to fetishes especially nylons or latex that can be used like a trigger? On that way fetishes can be like pointers to the higher (orgasmic) states of
: mind.

: Thanks,
: Sinisa







Sinisa

Dear Mystress,

Thanks for answers,

:    Rather than focusing on the goal: orgasm, focus on the feelings of excitement and desire rising upwards, spreading through your body like smoke from a fire. Keep stoking the desire and surrendering it so Goddess transmutes it to Shakti... you may start to shiver and tremble with desire-kriyas.

Yes, I noticed this movements. I will make one comparison; orgasm is like a breaking one wall of energy. That wall is a border between two stages. I don`t feel kriyas like trembling, I feel them like a flow of energy from my genital area to my head. So there are no breakings of walls, only pushing them ahead. Sometimes I feel frustrate because there was no orgasm like explosion but like a flow of orgasmic states. So, todays default state is much higher than an orgasm before one year.

:   Postpone orgasm, as long as possible, interrupting yourself over and over. Before orgasm shift your attention from the external fetish object, to gratitude to Goddess within yourself for the pleasure that a body can feel. For having a body to feel with.

I postponed orgasm for a six weeks, I have no need for them. I mean classic orgasms. Now, I am doubt, not in body but in my mind, to make it or not. To stop this «celibacy» or not?

:    When it got so intense that I could not think of anything else, I took it as a message to do some tantra magic. I had an orgy with myself, to raise my vibration with a vibrator... LOL!! Variety from shower tantra.

Yeah, I know that orgies, I make them in a bath.

:   I was reading every kind of pornography.. random stories from the alt.sex.stories. archive to fuel the desire, and switching focus inward to gratitude and heart bliss before/during orgasm. Some stories I liked better than others, but my focus was "all acts of love and pleasure serve the Goddess". Keeping an open mind, reminding myself that it was all ficton. Illusion.

What you mean by «that it was all ficton», what was illusion?

All that is right and I have nothing against it. My practise is charged sometimes by erotic pictures ( nyloned ladies ) so I can see one similarity. But I have problem in my head!
I feel dirty, guilty practising it. I cannot connect these radical practise with spirituality. Obviously my christian entities play roles. I am divided in myself. Isn`t a exploration of woman on picture using her as object?
But, if I fall in state that she and me are One, I can only admire to her beauty, to the Beauty of Goddess in her. What is sin and what is right?

Namaste,
Sinisa





Mystress

: Dear Mystress,

: Thanks for answers,

You are welcome.
: :    Rather than focusing on the goal: orgasm, focus on the feelings of excitement and desire rising upwards, spreading through your body like smoke from a fire. Keep stoking the desire and surrendering it so Goddess transmutes it to Shakti... you may start to shiver and tremble with desire-kriyas.

: Yes, I noticed this movements. I will make one comparison; orgasm is like a breaking one wall of energy. That wall is a border between two stages. I don`t feel kriyas like trembling, I feel them like a flow of energy from my genital area to my head. So there are no breakings of walls, only pushing them ahead. Sometimes I feel frustrate because there was no orgasm like explosion but like a flow of orgasmic states. So, todays default state is much higher than an orgasm before one year.

Exactly.. and after a while the sensual glow is always there.
: :   Postpone orgasm, as long as possible, interrupting yourself over and over. Before orgasm shift your attention from the external fetish object, to gratitude to Goddess within yourself for the pleasure that a body can feel. For having a body to feel with.


: I postponed orgasm for a six weeks, I have no need for them. I mean classic orgasms. Now, I am doubt, not in body but in my mind, to make it or not. To stop this «celibacy» or not?

Ask your heart.
: :   I was reading every kind of pornography.. random stories from the alt.sex.stories. archive to fuel the desire, and switching focus inward to gratitude and heart bliss before/during orgasm. Some stories I liked better than others, but my focus was "all acts of love and pleasure serve the Goddess". Keeping an open mind, reminding myself that it was all ficton. Illusion.

: What you mean by «that it was all ficton», what was illusion?

Well, I was reading *every* kind of pornography, whatever story the random button gave me. The site is an archive of stories from people who write erotic fiction fantasies for a hobby.
  Some of it would not have been ethical or in any way safe to happen in real life. Like, when I play Tomb Raider, and have to shoot gorillas and lions, I sometimes have to remind myself, "no endangered species are actually harmed in playing this game."
  Similarly, reading *some* of these stories I was reminding myself "no men, women, children. werewolves, aliens or animals were actually harmed in writing these fictional stories."
 Along with a mediation on the illusion of reality itself.

: All that is right and I have nothing against it. My practise is charged sometimes by erotic pictures ( nyloned ladies ) so I can see one similarity. But I have problem in my head!
: I feel dirty, guilty practising it. I cannot connect these radical practise with spirituality. Obviously my christian entities play roles. I am divided in myself. Isn`t a exploration of woman on picture using her as object?
: But, if I fall in state that she and me are One, I can only admire to her beauty, to the Beauty of Goddess in her. What is sin and what is right?

Well, sin itself is illusion. Goddess does not judge! So, your sexual guilt serves no-one.

 However, in the realm of karma.. if your fantasy is focused on a real person, then you are projecting your stuff onto her, and that is a kind of magic... not a very consensual kind. You are objectifying her, using her image for your own purposes. Most women who pose for the pictures are not aware that the incoming sexual energy from people who fantasise with their pictures can affect them.
 Thus, to do my magic I chose fictional stories with invented people, rather than focusing on any imagery or stories of actual individuals who might have been affected by my energy. Usually I just focus on the energy itself, or I aim it at someone who has consented... but the stories focus helped my ADD brain to stay on track longer. Blessings!

: Namaste,
: Sinisa






Sinisa

Hi,

: : Yes, I noticed this movements. I will make one comparison; orgasm is like a breaking one wall of energy. That wall is a border between two stages. I don`t feel kriyas like trembling, I feel them like a flow of energy from my genital area to my head. So there are no breakings of walls, only pushing them ahead. Sometimes I feel frustrate because there was no orgasm like explosion but like a flow of orgasmic states. So, todays default state is much higher than an orgasm before one year.

: Exactly.. and after a while the sensual glow is always there.

I asking myself and you Mystress what will happened when life become Life, Exstasy or constanst orgasm? How
will I make Love when I become Love, with whom? Because, every sight will be a sexual act, every breath will be breath of Joy and than what form of sexual expression will we use? I undestand now the true in many world religions: that classic sex with penetration is used only for procreation. That is true because this is only one form of sex, and we can imagine so many forms. Every movement, every sight with partner(s) will be kind of lovemaking! Just like dolphins do! :)
Further, our lifes become constant lovemaking, the final goal of Tantra: aim no diference between sexual act and rest of the life!

: : :   I was reading every kind of pornography.. random stories from the alt.sex.stories. archive to fuel the desire, and switching focus inward to gratitude and heart bliss before/during orgasm. Some stories I liked better than others, but my focus was "all acts of love and pleasure serve the Goddess". Keeping an open mind, reminding myself that it was all ficton. Illusion.

: : What you mean by «that it was all ficton», what was illusion?

: Well, I was reading *every* kind of pornography, whatever story the random button gave me. The site is an archive of stories from people who write erotic fiction fantasies for a hobby.
:    Some of it would not have been ethical or in any way safe to happen in real life. Like, when I play Tomb Raider, and have to shoot gorillas and lions, I sometimes have to remind myself, "no endangered species are actually harmed in playing this game."
:    Similarly, reading *some* of these stories I was reminding myself "no men, women, children. werewolves, aliens or animals were actually harmed in writing these fictional stories."
:   Along with a mediation on the illusion of reality itself.

Thnks, now I understand your attitude.

:   However, in the realm of karma.. if your fantasy is focused on a real person, then you are projecting your stuff onto her, and that is a kind of magic... not a very consensual kind. You are objectifying her, using her image for your own purposes. Most women who pose for the pictures are not aware that the incoming sexual energy from people who fantasise with their pictures can affect them.

What happens with persons on pictures or movies on that way? Do people`s projections transformed throw sexual fantasies put some extra junks on energetic system of womens on pictures? So, for example, I get easier but my karma junks go to model on photo?
I read that many porno actress had very tragic lifes.

:   Thus, to do my magic I chose fictional stories with invented people, rather than focusing on any imagery or stories of actual individuals who might have been affected by my energy. Usually I just focus on the energy itself, or I aim it at someone who has consented... but the stories focus helped my ADD brain to stay on track longer. Blessings!

Yeah, I understand, the aim is to get horny on energy itself, not on object which is connected with energy. Object ( fetish or person ) is not a source of energy. Energy exists without object. I realize sometimes that I am very horny when I focus on the Void, especially when I transcendence time. Timeless is very important in my meditation, it is like a voice of the Void, and then come spaceless, all space are in me and me are all around the space. But, here I have one wall, one blockage: I cannot surrender for unknown reason.
I mean that the Void is the most potent and final  "object" of all our focusing  to be horny, to fall in Extasy, to fall in Peace!


Sinisa




Mystress


: What happens with persons on pictures or movies on that way? Do people`s projections transformed throw sexual fantasies put some extra junks on energetic system of womens on pictures? So, for example, I get easier but my karma junks go to model on photo?
: I read that many porno actress had very tragic lifes.

Yes, also a lot of them go the other way, and become repressed, born again Christians in an unconscious desire to find protection from the incoming stuff. Not always... there are a few who are magically aware enough to make use of the incoming energy, transmute it and use it... they are rare.
  I do not like to give warnings... I prefer to tell people to have faith in "goddess has it handled", but in recent messages there has been a lot about the unfortunate results of projecting stuff -thoughts and emotions- onto people. Projecting sexual energy is even more intense. It is important for the exchange to be conscious and consensual.

Projecting Goddess onto someone is even more so... because if she is being Goddess for you then the stuff you surrender to Goddess will go to her. That is part of how I do my healing work, I become Goddess for people, and accept their projections of healer/teacher/savior to help them clear themselves so they can find Her, within.  

 The woman in your picture might also get a big Shakti-charge from your worship, which may stir up a lot of her karma... and you cannot know if she is emotionally prepared for that. "Trust to Allah, but tie up the camels".
 Change your choice of erotica. Look for fiction: paintings like Vargas girls in nylons, and fictional stories. You can use my pictures if you like, they all have a spell on them to direct the incoming sexual energy, etc.  directly to Goddess before it reaches my body or conscious awareness. Dunno if they are suited to your tastes. :)  

: Yeah, I understand, the aim is to get horny on energy itself, not on object which is connected with energy. Object ( fetish or person ) is not a source of energy. Energy exists without object.

Yup.

:I realize sometimes that I am very horny when I focus on the Void, especially when I transcendence time. Timeless is very important in my meditation, it is like a voice of the Void, and then come spaceless, all space are in me and me are all around the space. But, here I have one wall, one blockage: I cannot surrender for unknown reason.

ROTFLOL!! In the void, you are alone, One.. you are Goddess, and Sinisa does not exist... so there is no-one and nothing to surrender to! The surrender only works, when there is separation. When you are fully surrendered... then you are That. Void. Goddess.

: I mean that the Void is the most potent and final  "object" of all our focusing  to be horny, to fall in Extasy, to fall in Peace!

Beautiful! :) Blessings..

:
: Sinisa






Sinisa

 
:    I do not like to give warnings... I prefer to tell people to have faith in "goddess has it handled", but in recent messages there has been a lot about the unfortunate results of projecting stuff -thoughts and emotions- onto people. Projecting sexual energy is even more intense. It is important for the exchange to be conscious and consensual.

I see now mistakes. I have to project, to surrender my stuffs to Goddess. Not outside but inside me, into the Source of my being.
Isn`t that behind the story of Jesus the Savior?

:   Projecting Goddess onto someone is even more so... because if she is being Goddess for you then the stuff you surrender to Goddess will go to her. That is part of how I do my healing work, I become Goddess for people, and accept their projections of healer/teacher/savior to help them clear themselves so they can find Her, within.

!!Oh, that is  how things work!

:   Change your choice of erotica. Look for fiction: paintings like Vargas girls in nylons, and fictional stories. You can use my pictures if you like, they all have a spell on them to direct the incoming sexual energy, etc.  directly to Goddess before it reaches my body or conscious awareness. Dunno if they are suited to your tastes. :)

J Thanks for advices, and for using your pictures. And of course, they are suitable. ;)


: :I realize sometimes that I am very horny when I focus on the Void, especially when I transcendence time. Timeless is very important in my meditation, it is like a voice of the Void, and then come spaceless, all space are in me and me are all around the space. But, here I have one wall, one blockage: I cannot surrender for unknown reason.

: ROTFLOL!! In the void, you are alone, One.. you are Goddess, and Sinisa does not exist... so there is no-one and nothing to surrender to! The surrender only works, when there is separation. When you are fully surrendered... then you are That. Void. Goddess.

Oops! Yes, that`s right. I reach sometimes That, not for a long, and after falling %ldquofrom the Grace%rdquo I notice these blockages. Actually they are some kind of fear that divide me and Her. I am afraid of my own. Sinisa is the wall!!!

Thanks for all, you helped me a lot. Just today, I made one  step further realized stuffs about erotic pics, and pin ups pics are more charged with energy, but Goddess is my Path! Thanks again!
Sinisa





Mystress

:  
: :    I do not like to give warnings... I prefer to tell people to have faith in "goddess has it handled", but in recent messages there has been a lot about the unfortunate results of projecting stuff -thoughts and emotions- onto people. Projecting sexual energy is even more intense. It is important for the exchange to be conscious and consensual.

: I see now mistakes. I have to project, to surrender my stuffs to Goddess. Not outside but inside me, into the Source of my being.
: Isn`t that behind the story of Jesus the Savior?

Not sure what you mean... there are a lot of stories. :)

: :   Projecting Goddess onto someone is even more so... because if she is being Goddess for you then the stuff you surrender to Goddess will go to her. That is part of how I do my healing work, I become Goddess for people, and accept their projections of healer/teacher/savior to help them clear themselves so they can find Her, within.

: !!Oh, that is  how things work!

Yes. "By your faith are you healed". I have lots and you have some and a mustard seed is all it takes. Does not matter if you put faith in me or Jesus or Mickey mouse, because Goddess is All that is. It is the faith, that matters.
 I agree to play a role for you, "Guru" voice of Goddess for you, to give you a "leg up" and help you past enough ego karma junk for you to find Goddess within yourself... I am the crutch to help you heal.
 Carefully, because it can be hazardous and tiring to be a crutch, people lean on me too hard I sometimes snap...  being "only human" :)
 Nobody really can be Goddess for you, and I discourage the projection even as I play the role.. agreeing to be the reflection to help you see Goddess within yourself. An icon fo focus on, like the pictures. ;) Same same, really.

 This course has a spell on it, a "redirect" bit of energy plumbing so that I do not get your stuff directly unless you post to ask me something and I need to know to respond. Your thoughts and feelings as you watch the vids go to Goddess, my higher self responds if needed. Intuitively too, sometimes I hear my students asking, and respond with my thoughts but I really prefer that my higher self/Goddess handle it. It does a better job. My ADD brain is distractible enough already, without getting a lot of incoming projections interrupting. I like a silent head. Goddess has it handled.

When you have Her, with no more need for external reassurance or a hand to hold, then my job is done and you are to have none before Her.
 Goddess is All... but projecting Goddess onto someone with an ego who has not agreed to play that role for you gets messy. Best to focus on Goddess within yourself.
There is some other stuff.. I have an intense energy field, lots of chi & Shakti, so people tend to feel good around me... but even so, that too belongs to Goddess and if someone is not receptive then I can do nothing. Free Will is Goddess law.

: J Thanks for advices, and for using your pictures. And of course, they are suitable. ;)

charmer.. :)

: Oops! Yes, that`s right. I reach sometimes That, not for a long, and after falling %ldquofrom the Grace%rdquo I notice these blockages. Actually they are some kind of fear that divide me and Her. I am afraid of my own. Sinisa is the wall!!!

Yes! The nonduality of the void brings the duality of your karma into focus. shows you where are the ego bits that got in the way. When Sinisa is all gone then there is only Goddess having fun being you.

: Thanks for all, you helped me a lot. Just today, I made one  step further realized stuffs about erotic pics, and pin ups pics are more charged with energy, but Goddess is my Path!

Yes, because they are art. Vargas may have used models, but what goes on the paper is what Goddess sees through Vargas eyes. The artist is a vessel of the Muse.. Goddess. Goddess only sees Goddess, so... the more transparent the artist as a vessel, the better the art. Creative energy infused into forms to be icons to focus worship is a deeply rooted part of religion, but even so it is secondhand information. A painting of a flower is not a flower. Blessings!


Thanks again!
: Sinisa