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Lotus flower as earth and sky crystal

Started by Gustaf, Nov 06, 2007, 08:32:22 AM

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Gustaf

The earth crystal as initially described was often unclear and fuzzy for me to visualize. Mystress recommends to find what works best for you, whatever it may be.

The beautiful thing with any practice is that it evolves the more you do it. Quite recently, seemingly out of nowhere, the earth crystal transformed into an immense fiery lotus flower with innumerable petals (that sometimes appear to just be one big petal)  When the light from the feet reaches this lotus, it opens up wide in an extatic response.

My unconscious gave me an image that I have a deeper affinity with on some level, because it is much more compelling.

Maybe other students have had similar experiences?  Would love to hear about them.

Namaste
Gustaf

Pete

The grounding exercise has changed for me as I continue to do it.  The earth crystal was initially very difficult to visualize.  Sometimes, it would show up...sometimes not.  After receiving the tummo initiation, visualizing the center of the earth hasn't been necessary...it has just been there.  Then, about a month ago,  I was startled to see a pair of feet beneath mine (sole to sole).  As I looked at the feet, the rest of her body became clearer.  There is a naked woman that stands foot to foot with me with a fiery ball inside of/as her womb.  She is with me and loves me.  With each grounding, I am more convinced that the grounding is a gradual union of male and female within.  It is truly an amazing gift.

warm regards,
Pete
"vocatus atque nonvocatus deus aderit"
invoked or not invoked god is present

c. g. jung

Jaxx

That is beautiful Pete....

I have been feeling a bit ungrounded lately...  but I can feel those feet beneath mine now as I ground myself aswell...

:)

Blessings
Jaxx

Eileen

Quote from: Gustaf on Nov 06, 2007, 08:32:22 AM
My unconscious gave me an image that I have a deeper affinity with on some level, because it is much more compelling.
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This has been very true for me as well, for many things.  It's actually been a curiosity for me of late.

"Associations" is how I've been relating to it.  Words are just symbols for our minds and we each associate different things with different words and experiences.  For example, the one word we maybe hear the most in the FST course is "s u r r e n d e r".  It took a long time for me to settle on a different word - a different way to relate to the concept - in order to assimilate it, because "surrender" had a somewhat negative association for me personally.  I had a client whos system went into terror when she said the word "safe" because when she was a small child she was ritually abused, and was repeatedly told she was 'safe.'

It used to bother me when I couldn't 'get things' the way other people described them, but over time, things have been easier to re-assemble in order to get the understanding.  I'm glad you posted this Gustaf.  Probably lots of people wonder if "they're doing things right."  Knowing there are different ways to achieve the same goal can be soooooo helpful!
Blessings!
Eileen




 
"Those who say it cannot be done...
......should not interrupt the person doing it."

juergen

Gustav wrote:
The earth crystal as initially described was often unclear and fuzzy for me to visualize. Mystress recommends to find what works best for you, whatever it may be.

The beautiful thing with any practice is that it evolves the more you do it. Quite recently, seemingly out of nowhere, the earth crystal transformed into an immense fiery lotus flower with innumerable petals (that sometimes appear to just be one big petal)  When the light from the feet reaches this lotus, it opens up wide in an extatic response.

My unconscious gave me an image that I have a deeper affinity with on some level, because it is much more compelling.

Maybe other students have had similar experiences?  Would love to hear about them.



Yeah, very paradoxical thing, like many others in the course ;D

My first usable impressions had been: unchangeable dynamic, the fiery play of light in a crystal, with its beauty; with paradoxical effects: when fire prevailed, the explosion with the light stored in the body would happen, but when the accent was on the crystal, there were sometimes sessions of "cold and freeze", sometimes a grey predominance, which had to be interrupted.

So i tried what worked; had suspicions this to be the VOID, and tried for vividness of The Void too, for example comparing it with a pot of boiling water: constant temperature, but high interchange.

Once was captured there in the earth crystal, in a sort of cave, confronted with, mhh a translucent very powerful hot Woman, in a sort of sexual inititiation ritual; the light was were it was, not illuminting things, just illuminating itself. Falling gradually under the spell of that light, who was first a lit match and then became that Woman... :) :) :)

Now i'm associating it with VOID, and it has also a counterpart of the same nature(quite recently) in the Center Above;  THEY feel both like the essence of Feminity, whom my male self strives to serve(by intensive witnessing); making me even wonder sometimes if it's a privilege to be male; which gives me in return a slight kick to be reasonable. ;)
Phallic Feminity, to end with another "Paradox", but it has great reality. The oval of light seems to unfold easier and become more extended.

Peace,
juergen








juergen

Hi Gustav,

reading the title again, You are speaking of the 'sky cristal', too; it's interesting, since quite recently i was led to something beyond the 'light above', although it is in the grounding exercise implicitly, when 'love is felt' at the zenith(as i find now).
But no one has referred to it as a crystal, before You did, here, as far as i can see. And it feels right!

Bye,
juergen

juergen

Eileen wrote:
because "surrender" had a somewhat negative association for me personally.

One problem with ' surrender ' is for me that it combines very different things:

in its chief-use here, in the sense of giving things back to Goddess; this is a very exact naming, but a special use, while i guess usually surrender is used in the sense of submit. So surrender has become my treasured English word for the first sense(giving things back to Goddess), but now it doesn't seem to fit for the meaning of 'submit', so i would prefer to speak of 'submitting to the unconscious',  instead of 'surrendering to the unconscious'.

But lately i avoid 'submit' equally, and think of it just as 'let them..have their way'; this seems more open, especially since the "D/s-perspective" may vary with a person's sexual identity; so i'm wondering if and how a female student who grows into a dominant self, can submit to her 'male unconscious', while we consider "male" as of a submissive nature itself(i imagine therefore the male DB as something 'masterly submissive', of a still magical, complementary power).
Perhaps, i'm just to stubborn to accept to think of fem and male as something beyond D/s.
But if so, who or what provides hierarchy ;D

Admittedly somewhat curious :)
Peace and riches,
juergen

Mystress

   I'll sometimes pick up on a phrase from a book, and use it. I'm a fan of the Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, and in 1995 I was having fun with the line by Marvin the paranoid android, who had a brain the size of a planet but inevitably ended up in menial work, opening doors, parking cars.  When I found myself doing something menial like taking out the garbage, or something stupid I'd say, "Here I am, with a brain the size of a planet..."

  One day my inner voice (or maybe the grey alien) responded "Yes, you do. This one." Meaning, yes this planet is your brain."  With the vibration of Truth that hits ya like a canoe paddle upside the head.  Stopped me dead in my tracks, with my mouth hanging open in astonishment, and it took me a few years to figure out what it meant.  

  I did not understand the grounding, when I wrote it out in 1996 for the Celestine Prophecy email list,  as I understand it now... science has validated instinctive understanding and both have benefited.

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 When I was two years old, I experienced coming from the vast love and light of a being that said I was its child, and awakening in the relatively cold dark world of my crib.. I climbed out and tried to get out of the house, to dig a hole in the garden to get back there, because the light and love I'd felt was the most important thing in the world.  I could not get out of the house, so while waiting for the family to wake up I tried to dig it up, in a plantpot. Did not really expect it to work... was very careful not to make a mess, or hurt the plant.  

  Digging down the side, I had just tapped bottom and verified plantpots were not the same as under the Earth when my family woke up.  At first I was very happy because they could let me outside to dig!!  They had other ideas.

 Mom thought it was all very funny, and when I tried to explain what I was looking for, I realized by her reaction that she did not know about the Light.  She pointed to the lamp, the rising sun... funny child wants to find light in a plantpot, and she smeared some mud on my face and took my picture... and for the first time, I did not smile for the camera.  I had decided she was not my mother, my mother was the Light but I was little and helpless, and would have to pretend I fit in the family.   My heart was breaking, doubly orphaned by separation from both mothers... she thought it was funny.  Denies smearing mud on my face too... and I was so careful not to make a mess.  The only dirt on me was my knees, from crawling under the kitchen table to find the Popsicle stick to dig with.  Baby fingers were too soft for digging. Tool user baby. Actually. she denies the entire possibility that my memories stretch back that far.  The incident kind of left a lasting scar on our relationship, because I never trusted her with my feelings, or to know what was best for me.  
 
 So, here we have a rare image: a child at the moment of ego being born. End of innocence.




  That is what my ego was born from, an early choice that Goddess in the earth was the most important thing in the world, and a blank refusal to believe it was only a dream, or imagination... and a certainty that I knew something other people didn't, and the necessity of creating a social mask, despite all of the rest...

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  I dug a lot of holes, as a kid, but never told anyone why.  Looked into the bottom of every sewer project hole I passed, looking for the Light, to find the tunnel and go back there... until grade 3.  We learned about the layers of the earth. The teacher said, nobody really knows what is in the center of the Earth.

  I knew. Knew it with every fibre of my being: Light. The Mother, and I was heartbroken and devastated to learn I was never going to get there, by digging. Without that hope my life had no purpose.  

  Goddess sent a dream... I had a handful of time travel dreams, where my child self was projected into the body and mind of my adult self, a silent passenger as she went about her day, doing extraordinary things the child mostly could not understand until I was there, as an adult.
  I found the locations of these dreams, but most of the events never came to pass... finally a few years ago when the timeline of this last one passed, I realized the travel was into my adult selves dream world.

   The dream was a whopper, intended to give me hope but there is a good reason why 9 year olds are not allowed into an SM dungeon.  The only dream, where there was two way conversation with the adult, who was aware of me, the presence in her silent mind.  The message, that I would not only get back there, but become That... The message, not understood, was quite lost on my child self, in the emotional trauma of seeing people get tied up and whipped.
 
In fact, a part of my child self was splintered, wandered the halls of the empty building until I found the dream location in the real world and went there... and did no better, talking to her the second time around.  Within a few months I ended up sending her into the light because she was the most stubborn,.... etc... Got a lot of sympathy for my Mom after attempting to reparent that aspect of my own inner child.

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   Some scientists, quite recently, got a very clever idea.  Just as geologists measure vibrations of an explosion to read what minerals are under the earth, they collected years of simultaneous global data on earth quakes. They charted the speed and vibrations of an earthquake traveling  through the center of the earth, to discover that the center of the Earth is a giant iron crystal, compressed by heat and pressure into an hex pattern that only appears in iron meteors, formed in zero gravity.  This crystal spins slightly slower than the hot magma around it, the friction creating a giant electromagnetic field.  

  The Earth is the only planet in our solar system that has a magnetic field... Mars had one once, but it wore out, lost its spin.  It is a dead planet now.  Earth, is also the only planet to support life.

  What else generates an electromagnetic field?  Your brain, your living body.  Some ghosts do too. Consciousness.

  Anyone who has done healing or meditation work with crystals, discover that they are growing, living beings, with their own consciousness.

  What do we use electromagnetism for, in technology?  Memory.  To arrange iron oxide powder on magnetic medium.  Data storage, from hard drives to your 80's cassette tape collection.

  How much data could potentially, be stored on an electromagnetic crystal the size of the one that is generating the magnetic field of the earth?   The whole history of the Earth, and every being that ever lived on it... the collective consciousness.  All our dreams, our mythology... all the instinctive, genetic wisdom of the guiding consciousness.

  The crystal is Gaia's mind, Shakti's fertile womb of creation... Source, for life on Earth. Mother. The crystal within, the Sun above... the seminal Father energy that trees convert to little sperm squiggles of chi.  The breath of the solar wind on the atmosphere.

   The Mother and the Father connect to each other through US when you get grounded.

  As souls we are infinite, and may live life on many planets, but for this incarnation they are our parents.  http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Schumann.html

  You spent time as a soul in the fiery crystal, learning to be human before Goddess spit you out into the waiting body.  We all did.  The difference is, I was an unusually stubborn child who refused to forget the experience.  

 The connection to source got broken when ego had to grow to make a civilized human, and forgetting the social mask, was a mask, and not the real you, made it bigger.  

  Connect to the Fiery crystal, Kundalini rises to do the Michaelangelo trick; to carve away what is really not you, until the genuine human incarnation of a Divine spirit remembers it's Self.

  The term for the magnetic field of the earth's atmosphere is called the Schumann resonance. It has been discovered that the magnetic field of spiritual healers changes to be in resonance with earth's frequency when they go to heal.  They instinctively align themselves with the Source of life energy, the magnetic field of the planet, which in turn has a relationship to the solar wind.

  So do you, when you get grounded.     One sign that someone may be ripe for the Grail, is when they personally discover that the grounding cord is not a line, it is a loop, with both ends ultimately connecting to the Void. When the grounding has grown deeper... when you see that all of creation springs from that place that is no place and everywhere.

 When you unify with the Void, there are subtle but permanent visual changes. You never see pure blackness again. Any shadow or black surface is not black, it is filled with millions of rainbow microdot lights, that appear and disappear and move.  It is almost like you are seeing the quantum nature of reality, quarks and subatomic particles being created and disappearing.  Darkness is illusion, everything is full of Light.

  The physicist Itzak Bentov states most Kundalini phenomena, like vibrations and ear ringing are caused by the heartbeat setting up a "standing wave" which shatters karmic blockages, like how the feet of a thousand solders marching in unison can shatter a bridge.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1031384tegXgBk7

When you attain the Grail, if the initiation unfolds fully within you, it makes permanent physiological changes to your pulse: it becomes steady around 78-80 beats per minute whether you are sleeping or running up a hill.  The standing wave is set, permanent for as long as you live, Goddess's own pacemaker. You can feel the pulse of it all over your body, and in everything you touch, it is the rhythm of the universe.  You feel it especially, in different parts of your body when it is healing you.  


 Here is something I have not come to any conclusions about... maybe not my place to know it.

 They say "love makes the world go round" and what if it is true?  Mars died because its core lost its spin, the momentum ran down like an old clock. It is part of the nature of the physical that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed or exchanged.  Every action has a reaction.  What is the effect on the planet, of a human being getting grounded and becoming a capacitor, or transformer for the connection of the solar energy and upper magnetic field, and the planetary core magnetic field?

  or to put it another way, why did Gaia evolve a species with this capacity to be a capacitor? What role does our species play in Her long term evolutionary plan?  Perhaps every explosion when the sky energy hits the crystal, gives the core a little more spin... ?  

  There, you have to set aside speculation or preface everything with "maybe" to keep ego from flying off on a hero trip: the observer affects the experiment, and ego cannot know the outcome of evolution.... so don't peek under Gaia's skirt lest what you see, blow your mind.

 Just keep getting grounded.  When you are grounded, and the more time you spend getting grounded, connecting to Source above and below, and being free from fear, the more often you too really do have a brain the size of a planet.  This one.  


Samuel

Wow, and thank you.

  When you unify with the Void, there are subtle but permanent visual changes. You never see pure blackness again. Any shadow or black surface is not black, it is filled with millions of rainbow microdot lights, that appear and disappear and move.  It is almost like you are seeing the quantum nature of reality, quarks and subatomic particles being created and disappearing.  Darkness is illusion, everything is full of Light.

This sounds alot like my first and only DMT experience, where I had the closed eye experince of being in a infinitly sized dome with loads of small lights of diffrent colours. Ofcourse it was only a temporay experience. (Not sure about talking about such, so please remove if unfitting, couldn't find anything in any rules)

/Samuel

(The Schumann link didn't work, capital S in the way,
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/schumann.html )

juergen

Samuel said:

(The Schumann link didn't work, capital S in the way,
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/schumann.html )



i just tried and it don't work either, got a 404  ::)

Thanks for Your input, found it quite interesting! Much worse than Your head being pulled off for it won't probably happen  ;)

I think from the outside this world is rather dark, black and raw, and  most people  can't have it sunny enough. Guess it's by the ego-part, we see ourselves/the world dark, ugly.

Wondering who is it, who doesn't see the 'obvious ugly' as ugly, 'The Mother' comes to the mind. She loves Her child as it is, because she made it. At once "black is beautiful". It is not the case for each physical mom, since She is of the world herself, if she doesn't look beyond. What i have in mind here are the Earth Mother and The Cosmic Mother, though i can't claim they already have full reality for me, just something in "the feel".
So i think what You describe, is a Mother/Womanly perspective. I suppose it is similar, when we find ourselves or others to be less judgemental, than "normal" and find more beauty in certain things than we think are supposed to.

cheers,
juergen