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Chop wood, carry water

Started by edward, Jul 19, 2007, 01:56:53 PM

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edward



Is this all?


Chop wood, carry water


I remember a few years ago I asked my yoga teacher about kundalini. He started
laughing, ignored me and said to his old teacher that was also there:
Did you hear what Edward said? He wants to start with kundalini.
She started laughing too.


Now I know they always knew.

They were all enlightened. It was in their eyes.


Now I see it in everybodys eyes. Everything knows.


I see it in the ducks eyes when I walk along the river. The birds look at me,
and I see they know.



All illusions fade away


Love emerges from everywhere



All because of you. Tah dah dah... nah nah



It's very simple. But not easy.



A few feeks ago I started experiencing that many people saw me as
something holy. Jesus-like. I felt like an Enlightened Guru because
of the "Shakti-charge", I thought people reacted to.
It was a nice high...but not quite right.

Now I know it was only Goddess happy to see me see me


My own mirror....


Then I started seeing them for what they alleready were. Enlightened
Gurus teaching me. Now they're all Jesus-like and holy. Goddess seing me.


Everything is enlightened. It has always been, and always will.


There's nothing to teach others. Nothing to fix.

It was me that didn't see myself.


God is everywhere. You are God.


What's next? I don't know what Goddess is. Let the ufoldement process continue.
Goddess has always more gifts to reveal. please :) hehe


It was always you - Goddess.


I remember when I was very little, on a visit at my granparents house in India.
I could see snakes, many small green snakes, crawling on the ceiling at night.


Hehe....snakes were even circling around my crib, when I was a baby.


When I look back, It has always been like a dream.


It's all a dream.


The dream is good. Once one know it is a dream.


They will only tell you it is a dream until you insist on it.





Chop wood carry water



Edward
Feelin' ambivalent  :-\

Mystress

Quote from: edward on Jul 19, 2007, 01:56:53 PM
Everything is enlightened. It has always been, and always will.


There's nothing to teach others. Nothing to fix.

It was me that didn't see myself.


God is everywhere. You are God.

This gave me happy giggles. Strange business I am in eh? Nothing to do, nothing to teach, except people don't believe in their own enlightenment. Goddess trained me in persuasion and salesmanship, from acting to selling encyclopaedias, to hypnosis... just to persuade people that they have a nose just like everything has a nose. Even some fish have nostrils and they breathe with mouth and gills. Teach them to cross their eyes so they can see their nose without  a mirror...

edward


I was diving in the information in the links related to the "attachments" lesson, and I have discovered that I have many suppressed feelings and emotions.

I'm full of anger and rage! hehe  >:(

To just accept that one is angry, and be totally angry with the body and breath is very rewarding!
Fully merge with any feeling and experience it. Be it.


My mother never showed any feelings, and she seemed to repress most of her feelings as well. My sister acted out her feelings when having her tantrum outbursts and became very violent and dramatic. The same with my father, very distant and disconnected, but when he had his outbursts he got very violent. Like a monster.
Yes, it was a family full of drama queens. Except me, silently observing and analyzing and concluded that people are fucked up.

When I witnessed this during my childhood and the later years, I concluded that negative feelings was not something good. If one let feelings out in the mind, they will become uncontrollable and one would become violent and dramatic. Therefore negative feelings was something to avoid at any cost.


So negative feelings are something that I have pushed away for a long time.


I remember however, that sometimes when I was little, if I was angry, I would  just hide in the closet, and be sour like a lemon, and after maybe five - thirty minutes afterwards I would become tired of being angry and be in good mood again.


Frustrating and irritating situations in the external world show up, so that I can notice that I'm projecting old business on the current situation, and then experience and exhaust the feelings and emotions related to it.


I have not been able to do so much yoga (iyengar-style) the last months. To do yoga has been just too intense. I thought it was because of the Kundalini, but now I understand it is that the poses bring up many suppressed emotions, and I have not been able to understand what is happening and how to deal with it.

I'm looking forward to go to yoga class again on Monday. I will breathe the emotions into the poses.


Not only do I have suppressed emotions, but I actively avoid negative emotions (but then again, the whole society is like that, not experiencing, only acting out...mirror, eh). I use music, TV, start daydreaming, eat foods, etc. just to avoid the feeling of unpleasantness creeping into my mind and body.


I will stop trying to escape from my feelings, emotions and thoughts. I will identify and acknowledge them. Focus on my feet and the root chakra, and the Heart. And breathe!


I will stop trying to run away from my unconcius mind. I will dive into it, explore it and experience it.


I have holidays now, so today I've been mostly in my bed and experienced emotions. It's like having sex, one is tired and contented afterwards.




I kiss my limbs and say I love you my emotional body!


Edward

Mystress

I have not been able to do so much yoga (iyengar-style) the last months. To do yoga has been just too intense. I thought it was because of the Kundalini, but now I understand it is that the poses bring up many suppressed emotions, and I have not been able to understand what is happening and how to deal with it.

 
So much of the enlightenment process, is just about energy hygiene. People think, do all these excercises to bring the energy up, but the energy rises as soon as the junk is cleared... like, the water flows as soon as you blow up the dam. Karma junk in the body often takes the form of areas of muscular tension, so when you start to work with the body to release the tension, you also trigger the emotional stuff releasing.

  Your yoga teachers laughed at you... the practices are for cleansing the body to prepare it for the rise. Continuing them once it has risen, can be a form of resistance, trying to control the process.

edward


: So much of the enlightenment process, is just about energy hygiene. People think, do all these excercises to bring the energy up, but the energy rises as soon as the junk is cleared... like, the water flows as soon as you blow up the dam. Karma junk in the body often takes the form of areas of muscular tension, so when you start to work with the body to release the tension, you also trigger the emotional stuff releasing.

The last days have been very uncomfortable. It's very hard to experience and let go of negative feelings. Sometimes I  just feel pain, and don't know what to do. This is actually the hardest thing I've done.

My shoulders and neck have been very tense the last two days. I surrender the tension to Goddess as you advice in the Surrendering the ego self lesson. I now realize that tension is suppressed feelings and emotions. There are layers, first stress, then anger, then fear, loneliness...and so on.

I feel like a rough piece of meat that has been hit by a hammer to become tender... :-\


:Your yoga teachers laughed at you... the practices are for cleansing the body to prepare it for the rise. Continuing them once it has risen, can be a form of resistance, trying to control the process.

Now yoga for me is only to stay fit. The Heart voice has often said to skip yoga-classes, and take the dog for a long walk instead. OK, so I don't need to have bad conscience for skipping yoga-classes anymore!


Edward

juergen

Quote from: Mystress on Aug 02, 2007, 10:44:27 AM
I have not been able to do so much yoga (iyengar-style) the last months. To do yoga has been just too intense. I thought it was because of the Kundalini, but now I understand it is that the poses bring up many suppressed emotions, and I have not been able to understand what is happening and how to deal with it.

 
So much of the enlightenment process, is just about energy hygiene. People think, do all these excercises to bring the energy up, but the energy rises as soon as the junk is cleared... like, the water flows as soon as you blow up the dam. Karma junk in the body often takes the form of areas of muscular tension, so when you start to work with the body to release the tension, you also trigger the emotional stuff releasing.

  Your yoga teachers laughed at you... the practices are for cleansing the body to prepare it for the rise. Continuing them once it has risen, can be a form of resistance, trying to control the process.


"blow up the dam" is such a wonderful expression!

at a first glance it appears so destructive, violent, nono-like.
Then it is also a powerful tool of speech and understanding; and it is an example of integrating a respective part of shadow, i think.

Accordingly i had some recent thoughts about integrating cruelty(shadow-work); finding that violence makes good thinking tools, enhancing conciseness, enabling discernment.

Then, such clearing might also be well termed by the title of this thread.

Lol, now i'm surprised that "blow up the dam" and "chop wood carry water" might have a close relationship.

juergen.



juergen

Quote from: edward on Jul 19, 2007, 01:56:53 PM




God is everywhere. You are God.


What's next? I don't know what Goddess is. Let the ufoldement process continue.
Goddess has always more gifts to reveal. please :) hehe


It was always you - Goddess.
Chop wood carry water



Edward
Feelin' ambivalent  :-\



QuoteLooking at it another way... You are All... Entities are parts of yourself that got split off, parts of your power taking on a sentient form that is a reflection of the limiting belief they were born from. Little fragments of your own consciousness that got split away to serve a specific purpose... to be God or scapegoat for you, because you believed you needed it and necessity is the mother of invention.


Hi Eddi,

found this quot of Mystress in a thread(not threat, lol) called "entity removal"(search works wonderfully in this new forum version :)).

God, male form, ...an entity?
I've recently found great appetite for nordic mythology, (since Teacher has mentioned 'Odin's eye'), and especially Wagner's "Ring"; well it makes much of a difference when one has the libretto at hand while watching the opera ;D
It has increased understanding the God-term, or forming it for myself; Odin looks quite like a schoolboy vis-à-vis Erda(Earth-God-dess, God-dess), and the Norns, Erda's 3 Daughters can't keep from bursting into giggles about Odin's limitations, in one scene.
From the quot i also draw the comparison: God~Goat;
Well, i think Jehovah/Jaweh, Zeus, Odin/Wotan, Krishna, all smiting and somehow tragic figures, not to forget Allah, are different versions of one idea.
Odin has the 3rd eye open, but still he doesn't appear complete, until he makes some efforts and finally seems to get it, when he gives the ring(detaches of it) for Freya's release.
On the human level it is Brunhild who gets enlightened finally, when She goes into the fire and detaches of the ring(Fireserpent, Ego-Death!).
Very enjoyable stuff, that opus; surprisingly!

Always good to read your posts, thanks!

juergen.














Mystress

#7
 
  Hello, Juergen:

  Wagner took liberties with the mythology.

  I've never watched the whole opera... 11 hours long, isn't it?  I prefer the Anna Russell version.  Shorter and much funnier. 

  Lots of Nordic pagans on the web, unfortunately many of them end up becoming white supremacists... Hitler loved Wagner, and betrayed Nietzsche by distortion.

  "Odin's eye" was just the name of the gallery where events were held.  It was owned by a gay photographer who was my room mate for a few years.  Odin is not considered a particularly nice God, one of his names is "betrayer of warriors" because he will get good soldiers killed so he can party with them in Valhalla. Thor is the God of the people.

  Yahweh is an astral entity, become an archetype due to worship.  Many Gods are tragic figures, because they are tied to life and death cycles.  The Goddess is immortal, the God dies and is reborn.

  "Blow up the dam" has different connotations in Canada, due to our national critter, the busy beaver with his unique ability to transform the landscape by flooding and clearcutting it.   I did not consider it would sound like terrorism!  It is an activity of Canadian farmers, to reclaim productive fields and pastures.   

   A single beaver can flood acres of land and take out dozens of trees in a few weeks.  The beaver lodge sits in the center of the pond, blowing up the dam encourages the rodents to relocate downstream ... to the next farm.

  Biologists have discovered that beavers hate the sound of running water and will contine dam building until they don't hear it anymore. Kind of like ego, eh?

  Canada was built on the European appetite for fine felted beaver fur hats, which led to the beaver being protected as an endangered species at one time. Being a rodent it is now abundant again, and was off the endangered list a long time ago, but trapping them is still tightly regulated.  Sheared beaver fur coats are incredibly soft plush bling.

  It is also a term used in the historic logging industry in Canada, where logs were transported down stream and the nimble feet and pike of the log driver kept jams from occurring... an incredibly hazardous occupation!  If the jam gets too big, dynamite is safer.

  Yup, it is all about the wood and the water. ;)


  For he goes birling down a-down the white water
   That's where the log driver learns to step lightly
   It's birling down, a-down white water
   A log driver's waltz pleases girls completely.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDi9DzihrE

     Enjoy. Blessings...


juergen

Hi Mystress,

Nice forum logo You have created, always a pleasure to look at!
Now do i get this right:
Blow up the dam, can mean:
1) Dam building: beavers flooding land(blow up= enlarge, make bigger)
2) Jam clearing: relevant here, clearing stuff(log drivers)

I'm hoping toward a(maybe digital) movie with title: "Planet of the beavers". Before a background of their special landscape design familiar-outlandish plots should flow easily:
Firstly, lots of ego! Highly elaborate (Beaver-)Ladies, with good humored log lads at there side; who find themselves facing new challenges, when everything is ok and the gurgling water-sounds have subsided; and suddenly She desires sounds but only very very special ones...
Criminal beaver gangs specialized in street blockades, gruesome prospects, brrr.
Very lovely vid, thanks, gives me alot giggles and smiles.




  Hello, Juergen:

  Wagner took liberties with the mythology.


Yeah, he created a whole mythology of its own.

   I've never watched the whole opera... 11 hours long, isn't it?  I prefer the Anna Russell version.  Shorter and much funnier.   

Well, about 14 h duration, but not in one day, except on tv(last sunday!)
Designed to perform during 4 days(one evening, day 1-3).
Until recently you could chase me with Wagner, but there came one to the other, so i gave it a try; my first event was Walkuere, a live transmission on tv some weeks ago.
From the beginning it all felt good, natural, hot! The gorgeous moderator, a very romantic 1st act, and so on.
There is one problem with operas and language; firstly anyone will need a printout of the lyrics in order to make this a sensible experience, this was laudably solved karaoke style, inserting line by line. Signs of wonder happening.
2nd, translation in other languages is useless insofar as one cannot follow the course of the show, which will always be in the original language.
I guess there are a lot of people who go visit the opera without the libretto, probably most of the people, or all; perhaps Nietzsche did so too, in 1876, Bayreuth, when he was so displeased with the performance (and the audience), that he cancelled his very close friendship with Wagner. This way it doesn't matter if you are a natural speaker or not: the whole procedure will be but one big torture and partly i admire people for their staying power.
No one knows what's going on, and the summaries from booklets won't fix it either. They cannot convey and replace the 'event'.
What follows are the notoric commentaries and sermons, like, that the performances outside the concert hall are more interesting than within: the way how elderly ladies master the dilemma of hiding their withering flesh by clever choice of clothing or who arrives with whom(or without whom).. . So, "libretto or no libretto" is really a question of heaven and hell.
And 4 hours can fly with bliss.

Lots of Nordic pagans on the web, unfortunately many of them end up becoming white supremacists... Hitler loved Wagner, and betrayed Nietzsche by distortion.


Hitler thought, that Wagner hated Jews and Nietzsche didn't hate them, as Nietzsche suggested it himself(I respect Nietzsche  but i don't trust him here completely).
So Nazis decided for Wagner; but then i've heard a distinct remark in a tv report that Hitler refused to frequent Wagner's Ring, and i think this is for good reason: That 'Ring' is totally anti-nazi matrifocal stuff, none hero-worship, no Odin is hero, no Siegfried is hero; Heroes and Gods are all and exclusively female, and the anti-heroes of the opus, Hagen, Alberich, Hunding are all a counterfeit of Hitler himself, so once he got it, he would not further attend stagings of The Ring. Hitler was either not that stupid, or maybe someone explained it to him!
To make the confusion complete, there was also a Hagen-worship in Nazi-Germany, who is certainly no hero in Wagner's context and understanding.

Well, Wagner and the Jews is another chapter.
As i understand it, Wagner was obsessed by an idea of redemption thru death and rebirth like in many paths: phoenix from the ashes; so all of this was to understand in a symbolic way so death becomes sort of ego death etc.
Along this path, he considered a revolutionary renewal for the world, particularly for Germany as for his personal reach, where Jews could equally involve themselves, as an assimilation.
In some ways he critcized Jews really sharply for their alleged cultural subversion of their guest nations, even ridiculed them for their speech and ethnic peculiarities, but in single cases he fostered relations and even friendships with Jews.
So he wasn't satisfied with the cultural level as a whole, and with the Jews' contribution in particular.
The Jews were not held responsible by Wagner for the misery of the world, but were seen as a considerable part of it, as promotors of capitalism and materialistic greed; as the ones who claim control of the world so explicitly, even in their holy book, (the old testament).
He expressed his goal as "becoming human of Jews and "us"(non-Jews) commonly", as a rebirth(Self-destruction and redemption).

Choking off of love, being the first step toward hell, is the motive of the very beginning in Rheingold:
The ugly dwarf/Nibelung Alberich is on a quest for a lusty adventure at the origins of the river Rhine, where the 3 Daughters of the Rhine are present with all charms imaginable; but he gets laid with none of the Nymphs, instead they torture him with a little tease and denial, best femdom style.
Occasionally a beam of light lightens the ground of the river where a treasure of gold glows brightly.
Deliberately the Nymphs tell him this story: who detaches of love forever, will be able to forge a ring that allows them to control the world.
They are telling so deliberately, because they can't imagine that anyone would detach of love forever, but Alberich, still with the impression of his newest rejection, he can ...
There are allegations, that Wagner equates Nibelungs and Jews here, or at least that the figure of Alberich might be inspired, let's say, by Rothschild, or whoever.
Then i suggest, without some prejudices within the imagination, some stereotypes, thinking might not work at all. Who wants to throw with stones here.
Ok, Wagner may have influenced Nazis, his son in law, a certain Chamberlain is said to be a chief ideologist of Anti-semitism.
Though, Wagner is not responsible for Hitler and Hitler is not responsible for the many Nazi-Germans, etc.: everyone is responsible for themselves.
As long as this isn't understood, we need not worry about white-supremacism, because then Supremacists of all colours have a magnificent sunshine, ffff.

Haha, one Wagner-critical article i found on the web states that:(my transl.)"Redemption means there(for Wagner) detachment of egoistic will..."; think, i can live with that.

  "Odin's eye" was just the name of the gallery where events were held.  It was owned by a gay photographer who was my room mate for a few years.  Odin is not considered a particularly nice God, one of his names is "betrayer of warriors" because he will get good soldiers killed so he can party with them in Valhalla. Thor is the God of the people.


I bet all religions have this, e.g. heavenly promises for mudjaheddin, ...and the cowards go to hell/Hel(Goddess of the underworld, Persephone, Ereshkigal); but You are right, the Odin war rituals were especially strange; looks like the God was the super-coward.
In nordic mythology, this(Ragnarök) always appears under the sign of a threat which would to be avoided; in the Nazi-illusion this transforms to a final race-war between whites/aryans/caucasians vs the "Jewish conspiracy"; this final battle is no longer to be avoided, but it was intended to stay victorious and not to vanish(although it happened, in a way(?) ). Very resistant attitude, just like the nordic Odin(Wagner's Wotan is different, he has insights).
Totally different view of vanishing in the Ring-myth: The battle is accepted, like with the Nazis, but Brunhild finally gets the last insights(from the Rhine Daughters) because She has become ready to give the Ring back: so vanishing is surrendering here ... no problem at all!
Siegfried didn't pass a corresponding test when meeting the 3Daughters, before being murdered: very funny scene: the 3 Daughters offer him a hunt trophy, a bear, in exchange for the ring, and he refuses; so they call him a skinflint; well, the good lad he is, he cannot go away with this, so he begs them to - please - take the ring from him, and the River Gals have to tell him now, how clever a choice he has made...  ... but not with our Siegfried!
As if he'd ever need to be clever and take a good advice! Accept a warning and not solely follow his free will! He had decided to give them the Ring voluntarily, not bound by any further regard or condition! Sorry Maidens, asta la vista. Ultimate step into light(usual death) for Siggi.

It seems like the father has become dependent on the daughter, because Wotan can only vanish(can! - not forced to)when Brunhild sends him a sign, two ravens, that She is ready.

  Yahweh is an astral entity, become an archetype due to worship.  Many Gods are tragic figures, because they are tied to life and death cycles.  The Goddess is immortal, the God dies and is reborn.

  "Blow up the dam" has different connotations in Canada, due to our national critter, the busy beaver with his unique ability to transform the landscape by flooding and clearcutting it.   I did not consider it would sound like terrorism!  It is an activity of Canadian farmers, to reclaim productive fields and pastures.   

   A single beaver can flood acres of land and take out dozens of trees in a few weeks.  The beaver lodge sits in the center of the pond, blowing up the dam encourages the rodents to relocate downstream ... to the next farm.

  Biologists have discovered that beavers hate the sound of running water and will contine dam building until they don't hear it anymore. Kind of like ego, eh?

  Canada was built on the European appetite for fine felted beaver fur hats, which led to the beaver being protected as an endangered species at one time. Being a rodent it is now abundant again, and was off the endangered list a long time ago, but trapping them is still tightly regulated.  Sheared beaver fur coats are incredibly soft plush bling.

  It is also a term used in the historic logging industry in Canada, where logs were transported down stream and the nimble feet and pike of the log driver kept jams from occurring... an incredibly hazardous occupation!  If the jam gets too big, dynamite is safer.

  Yup, it is all about the wood and the water. ;)


Yup, and dynamite and lads or beavers
Well, Canadian lumberjacks are famous for their busy-ness i remember faintly one joke:
One canuck woodcutter is applying for a job, and is tested by chopping off a considerable amount of trees and he goes tok tok tok and in no time has it done; so he is asked: "how can you do this so quickly, where did ya learn woodcutting?"
"In the Sahara", comes the reply.
"But they have no forests there".
"Not anymore".

  For he goes birling down a-down the white water
   That's where the log driver learns to step lightly
   It's birling down, a-down white water
   A log driver's waltz pleases girls completely.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDi9DzihrE

     Enjoy. Blessings...

Thanks Mystress gonna go another round birling ;)


juergen.

Mystress

Now do i get this right:
Blow up the dam, can mean:
1) Dam building: beavers flooding land(blow up= enlarge, make bigger)
2) Jam clearing: relevant here, clearing stuff(log drivers)


  No, beaver entities build dams to stop the water flowing, and farmers and city workers blow up the dams (destroy the blockage)  to restore the flow. Beavers create flooding.  Beavers and people often disagree about what is a good place for a pond.

Criminal beaver gangs specialized in street blockades, gruesome prospects, brrr.
Very lovely vid, thanks, gives me alot giggles and smiles.


  I'm glad you enjoyed it. The NFB is a national treasure. I dunno how to respond to the rest of your post so I will instead offer this video of Thor vs the Angry Beavers. Blessings!

http://www.thebeaverdam.com/downloads/Beav-Master.wmv

juergen

  Yahweh is an astral entity, become an archetype due to worship.  Many Gods are tragic figures, because they are tied to life and death cycles.  The Goddess is immortal, the God dies and is reborn.

I think, this began with domestication of cattle, where the male was used as a fertilizer; which led to the idea, that the human male would be a good fertilizer for the land as well: the sacred king annual ritual.
This way, Inanna's husband Dumuzi goes down the earth one half of the year.
Dumuzi's sister volunteers for the other half of the year, so she is on earth during the cold season; seams to reflect certain gender-specific lifestiles: a rather bluestockingly woman was told that dissipated males die prematurely, as a kind of comforting her. But she replied half-furiously: Damn so be it! But isn't this enviable: to live like a lord and have one's departure on the climax?
Whatsoever, eventually this subsided, hinted in the myth by Gilgamesh's resistance against Inanna or Ishtar.
But the idea of the male (self-)sacrifice remains still established, the most prominent of this probably being Jesus.
In Tibet they found a mummy of a male monk in a very strange posisition, strangulated himself during a special Yoga position, meditating slowly choking to death for the benefit of his tribe or the community of that location...
Or that Kungfu-movie, where the hero fights out his soul for the rescue of a pestered gal, and indeed the only survivor is that woman, yumm!
Last not least those "berlingers"...

With the Jewish God that seems all different.
First, going back to domestication, there occured another branch, as horses were bred, which was the birthtime of patriarchy and war: sudden attack, and ultrafast escape.
All male gangs forming, with male leaders, One God.
This works, because the God is the God of the whole team, or even of a number of teams, so this God can sanction the leader(germ.:Führer->Hitler).
Where are the women?
In the old testament(testes-self-praise?),i think there is a hint:
The woman, the bride is the (male) population, or in a closer sense the priesthood!
Female Multitasking traded for division of work among "multi" men, no need for women anymore! What remains to them is, just being unclean soil, like the earth is considered unclean.
The male born from scum! Tricky problem, but none that the "new woman" can't solve:
Lotus thriving on sewage! Purification obsessions...Alchemy(Paracelsus - Ramakrishna).

So this has also become lore of human culture, probably even of our genes. It may not be the only aspect of Judaism/Christianity/Hinduism/Nordicmyth etc. but being part of it, it can always be drawn out the desk.

Further, male gangs manage to rely on the hero-motif from Matriarchy, and become "honorable", so that mafia-moms/brides become the most enthusiastic mourne-artists, when it comes to a departure of their hubbies.

So i'm not shure, if the greatest worshippers of Yahweh or one of his synonyms/variants are possibly women.
Might this have caused a counter-reaction, sort of transformation of Yahweh back to the roots, Goddess, the One who feels so much more rightly?

You know, i love happy ends.

juergen.


juergen

http://www.thebeaverdam.com/downloads/Beav-Master.wmv

:) also very nice!
At first i wondered what brings a Kundalini-Teacher to give a link to a cartoon like this?
Ok, i didn't wonder too much, because i already know from the lessons, that cartoon has been part of Your own path.
Obviously, many cartoons are from another world, giving glimpses into the spiritual world of action and no thinking, dreamlike; watching it, there is no time or space for thinking, only for follow.
It's a world where no dying can be, at most a nice visit to hell.

Thank You!

  No, beaver entities build dams to stop the water flowing, and farmers and city workers blow up the dams (destroy the blockage)  to restore the flow. Beavers create flooding.  Beavers and people often disagree about what is a good place for a pond.

It's a shame! It 'd be a creative challenge to conciliate these interests; not just as national parks, but in a more integrative way, i bet them beavers have a feng-shu incorporated in their designs :P

Also thank You for the clarification: blowing up the dams/destroying blockages will go as "smart terrorism" in my spelling.

beaverly pondly...!

Mystress

#12
Quote from: juergen on Aug 10, 2007, 05:11:53 PM
http://www.thebeaverdam.com/downloads/Beav-Master.wmv

:) also very nice!
At first i wondered what brings a Kundalini-Teacher to give a link to a cartoon like this?

Because you asked me.  Goddess provides. ;)

Criminal beaver gangs specialized in street blockades, gruesome prospects, brrr.

  Angry Beavers is a show on the Canadian youth channel.  That this episode had Thor in it made it perfect.  Especially funny considering your comments about Odin  (shiny hat man) as a coward. The beavers run amok and blow stuff up, in other episodes.

  No, beaver entities build dams to stop the water flowing, and farmers and city workers blow up the dams (destroy the blockage)  to restore the flow. Beavers create flooding.  Beavers and people often disagree about what is a good place for a pond.

It's a shame! It 'd be a creative challenge to conciliate these interests; not just as national parks, but in a more integrative way, i bet them beavers have a feng-shu incorporated in their designs :P

  Well, we do conciliate... when people agree with the beaver's choice of pond location, they make and maintain good wetlands. They even dig the mud out of the bottom, to pile on the dam so the pond is not swampy.  The ponds also filter water by catching the sediment.  However, a beaver sees a road with a ditch and culvert as a ready made dam, all they have to do is block off the culvert... which of course, floods and undermines the road and everything within a few acres of the dam.

  A terrorist act, would be to turn beavers loose in Holland.  Imagine beaver dams appearing in all the canals... the whole country would be flooded. Fortunately, Canada is bumpy and still has plenty of wilderness.

  The black and white film at the beginning of the first vid, is the only film ever taken of birling before it was outlawed for being lethal.  Each of those logs weighs a few tons. One mis-step and the log drivers are crushed between logs, or drowned under the log boom.  Amazing piece of local history.   That is the nature of male sacrifice in the modern world.
    Blessings!

juergen

  Angry Beavers is a show on the Canadian youth channel.  That this episode had Thor in it made it perfect.  Especially funny considering your comments about Odin  (shiny hat man) as a coward. The beavers run amok and blow stuff up, in other episodes.

This episode shows adequate disrespect, when Odin's eye is stabbed by the remains of Thor's hammer, very good persiflage: Odin didn't start his path too well, when he traded his one eye for 'enlightenment'(Of a sudden: the Cyclops appears like a blending -worst of the 2- of Thor and Odin) urggghhh!
Eventually i believe cartoons reflect the subconsious, and there is always some amok and blow-up going on; shadowside on tv i guess; lots of creativity in most cartoons, real blessings! One phrase especially remaining with me: "that's the last we'll ever see of him - Nooooo!"

  Well, we do conciliate... when people agree with the beaver's choice of pond location, they make and maintain good wetlands. They even dig the mud out of the bottom, to pile on the dam so the pond is not swampy.  The ponds also filter water by catching the sediment.  However, a beaver sees a road with a ditch and culvert as a ready made dam, all they have to do is block off the culvert... which of course, floods and undermines the road and everything within a few acres of the dam.

smiles, now i'm getting what they mean by beaver-management..

  A terrorist act, would be to turn beavers loose in Holland.  Imagine beaver dams appearing in all the canals... the whole country would be flooded. Fortunately, Canada is bumpy and still has plenty of wilderness.

...and Canada has You! Beavers would certainly accept some friendly hints from You...

The black and white film at the beginning of the first vid, is the only film ever taken of birling before it was outlawed for being lethal.  Each of those logs weighs a few tons. One mis-step and the log drivers are crushed between logs, or drowned under the log boom.  Amazing piece of local history.   That is the nature of male sacrifice in the modern world.

maybe sacrifices change   :-X


Your hints gave me a lot of respect for the little woodmasters so i looked them up on the 'net:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/0/09/Biber.Biberach.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/3/3f/Biberdamm_Eifel.jpg/800px-Biberdamm_Eifel.jpg

As one can see the dam is partly leaky, so that fish can pass thru.
Eventually i'm convinced, they are free of ego,  at least nearly: a lot of smaller animals get free hospitality in their 'castles' and there is much public welfare about all of it: creating fertile land, holding water in the region, creating beautiful landscape(clearings in the woods), enhancing biodiversity ..
For themselves the ponds are convenient paths of transport, so they needed not invent the wheel and tediously build streets.
Ponds may vary in size, the largest ever located was about 30 square-kilometres.
And the ponds are built deeply enough so they can hide under the water.
As a conclusion they represent archaic wisdom for me, like a kind of sympathetic masonrists.
Sure they like the reflected sunlight on the mirrors they create.
Entranced by the glistening light, happily chopping wood and be carried by the water - life enjoyers!

Sometimes, American Indians call them little bro's.
Around 1900, they have been decimated in many areas, but humans have decided that we can't do without our 'little siblings', so there is still hope, i think.


Quote from: Mystress on Aug 10, 2007, 08:38:25 PM
Quote from: juergen on Aug 10, 2007, 05:11:53 PM
http://www.thebeaverdam.com/downloads/Beav-Master.wmv

:) also very nice!
At first i wondered what brings a Kundalini-Teacher to give a link to a cartoon like this?

Because you asked me.  Goddess provides. ;)
    Blessings! [/i]

:) Yes She does!

j.