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Goddess Earth

Started by DeviRam, Apr 12, 2002, 03:56:11 PM

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DeviRam

Good evening Mystress, or rather good day for you may be you are walking under the sun in beautiful Canada...
I still feel progress with the experience of grounding, and your lesson on earth and sky energy came right to verify the experience. I am actually very, very familiar with the sky energy, but discover the earth one. When I ground now I feel distinctly the slow, cool, thick whitish energy slowly filling the body. I even feel a neat difference in my pulse. I don't know if you know AyurVeda? it is a health system in which one basic principle is that the body is constitued mainly of 3 elements, vatta, pitta, kapha, kapha can be I thingk associated with the earth element. It was till now almost undetectable from my pulse, and now it is as strong and clear than the 2 others...
There is an experience I wonder a bit about : The other day while grounding and strongly feeling the earth energy, I perceived a Being different from those I am used to preceive : a Baing who could be a Lady, with a strong and smallish body, quite primaire face, (I mean by this different from the Celestials Beings I am familiar with ) . Could this be Mother Earth? She seemed to incarnate all the qualities of the Earth...
It reminded me that I saw such a Being in PAris for the first time : there I think I healed an indigo child- THe entities in this aura did not seem to be human beings. And as he had a very hard energy in the heart, I offered this energy to the Divine. The personnification of the Divine who came surprised me a lot... She was too with a sort primaire face, short body, very different from anything I had met before , but a bit similar to the Being who could be Mother Earth. May be it was the Goddess from the Planet of origin of this child? Seems a bit far-fetched... But what do you think?
Anyway I am jolly glad with the progress in grounding...
I have been all this time trying to understand what you mean by the Divine Beloved : This Mother Divine of white Light who is by me all the time these days, is She my Divine Beloved? I seem to have many Divine Beloved... Christ is one of Them, the sight of Him makes me shiver with Bliss...Is the Divine Beloved the personnification of the Divine Void on a personnal level?
You say you can be having breakfast and in the same time have hundred things going on on the level of your spiritual Self. Is it the same for the Ascended Masters who left earth? For instance when Christ or MAry come and I see them, are they in the same time busy in thousands other places or planes? I presume I am not the only one who see them when I do? If we see them, it is because they kept their earthly body? What about the celestial Beings who never had a human body? Is it their celestial Body we perceive? Or do we create a body for them as we perceive their energy?
For you Mother Earth seem to be the Goddess, and you also speak of the Goddess of the Void. Is for you the Goddess of the Void the supreme Goddess, the one who is All, who is everything, ie all the GOds and Goddesses, and the Goddess Earth your favorite manifestation of the Goddess of the Void? Or how do you see the connection between them?
I am very inspired by what you say about faith being the only thing necessary to send entities in the light ect...
Before I started this course clearing my physiology after healing was quite a consequent issue which could last up to 1 hour and a half... I took the help for this from a new age cd I found by chance which indicates how to clear each chakkra with its corresponding cosmic ray and who is the guardian from this ray. According to this cd, violet is the color of the second chakkra. But you told me once it is the color for the top chakra?
According to them rubis is the color for the solar plexus, but you said once gold is the color for this chakra? Could I find somewhere a link listing the correspondence between chakras and cosmic rays?
Anyway I probably need to still strenghen my faith cuz clearing my physiology is not yet automatic, but it is now much easier, may be because I am more grounded?
With much love and merci beaucoup...
DeviRam




Mystress

: Good evening Mystress, or rather good day for you may be you are walking under the sun in beautiful Canada...

Hello, DeviRam.

: I still feel progress with the experience of grounding, and your lesson on earth and sky energy came right to verify the experience. I am actually very, very familiar with the sky energy, but discover the earth one. When I ground now I feel distinctly the slow, cool, thick whitish energy slowly filling the body. I even feel a neat difference in my pulse. I don't know if you know AyurVeda? it is a health system in which one basic principle is that the body is constitued mainly of 3 elements, vatta, pitta, kapha, kapha can be I thingk associated with the earth element. It was till now almost undetectable from my pulse, and now it is as strong and clear than the 2 others...

I have heard of ayerveda and read a little of it, but I do not know much. I am very curious about how you would detect the body balance in the pulse?

: There is an experience I wonder a bit about : The other day while grounding and strongly feeling the earth energy, I perceived a Being different from those I am used to preceive : a Baing who could be a Lady, with a strong and smallish body, quite primaire face, (I mean by this different from the Celestials Beings I am familiar with ) . Could this be Mother Earth? She seemed to incarnate all the qualities of the Earth...

I had to read this post three times to understand what you were talking about... Ah primate?
 My DB reminded me, the monkey lady!! LOL!! Yes, I have seen her and been her, tho I did not associate her with the Earth Goddess Gaia... for me she was just one more passing phenomena, tho a delightful one. She used to show up in my mirror, and some of my more intuitive friends saw me morph into her occasionally. I only ever saw her face over mine, and she looks like a neanderthal- but she is pure joy happy monkey-love with no ego at all. No speech, really. Just happy loving emotions, very childlike it her innocence yet wise like a Mother.
 To me she seemed like a genetic memory from the collective, and I nicknamed her "Eve." Not for the biblical Eve so much as the oldest human ancestor out of Africa we all trace our DNA from. The mother of us all.
 For me, the Earth Goddess Gaia has a slightly different flavor, more complex and wise, more like a Faierie queen, than the elegant simplicity of the monkey lady. I do not see Gaia in human form.

: It reminded me that I saw such a Being in PAris for the first time : there I think I healed an indigo child- THe entities in this aura did not seem to be human beings. And as he had a very hard energy in the heart, I offered this energy to the Divine. The personnification of the Divine who came surprised me a lot... She was too with a sort primaire face, short body, very different from anything I had met before , but a bit similar to the Being who could be Mother Earth. May be it was the Goddess from the Planet of origin of this child? Seems a bit far-fetched... But what do you think?

I think she is the child's humanity, reclaiming him from external influences. He came here to be born human and be human, his resistance to being human hardened his heart and attracted resonant entities.

: Anyway I am jolly glad with the progress in grounding...
: I have been all this time trying to understand what you mean by the Divine Beloved : This Mother Divine of white Light who is by me all the time these days, is She my Divine Beloved? I seem to have many Divine Beloved... Christ is one of Them, the sight of Him makes me shiver with Bliss...Is the Divine Beloved the personnification of the Divine Void on a personnal level?

Gosh, what a lot of questions... some of them, are maybe too much thinking... Silence might explain it better than I can.

 Not that I am trying to discourage your questions, but rather because the Beloved must reveal himself to you. For me to try to define too much, limits the possibilities of your experience. Do not try too hard to understand the DB intellectually. That is limiting to him.
  Earth and Sky energy is lesson #10... introducing the DB is lesson #25. Keep doing the lessons, and give it time. The DB will reveal himself to you, when he is ready, and you must surrender to that and not try to second guess too much.  


: You say you can be having breakfast and in the same time have hundred things going on on the level of your spiritual Self. Is it the same for the Ascended Masters who left earth? For instance when Christ or MAry come and I see them, are they in the same time busy in thousands other places or planes?

Of course! Time and space do not exist for them. They no longer have a physical body so they are not limited to linear perceptions.

I presume I am not the only one who see them when I do? If we see them, it is because they kept their earthly body? What about the celestial Beings who never had a human body? Is it their celestial Body we perceive? Or do we create a body for them as we perceive their energy?

Yes, they have a body in our perceptions. How you see them is a reflection of who you are.

: For you Mother Earth seem to be the Goddess, and you also speak of the Goddess of the Void. Is for you the Goddess of the Void the supreme Goddess, the one who is All, who is everything, ie all the GOds and Goddesses, and the Goddess Earth your favorite manifestation of the Goddess of the Void? Or how do you see the connection between them?

When I speak of Goddess, I mean many things at once, but they are all One. All manifestations spring from the Void. Earth is one manifestation, and so are we. It is the human ego consciousness that wants to sort them and file them in their pigeonholes. Labeling things.

: I am very inspired by what you say about faith being the only thing necessary to send entities in the light ect...

Yes.. the stronger your faith gets and the clearer your body gets, the more things simply happen automatically. When you are still growing faith, the rituals serve to increase the energy of your focus and fuel the results.

 It is like any new discipline. Learning Kung Fu, or music or cooking... first you learn the steps one by one and follow them carefully... but once you really know them on a body-level you can play music without thinking, or cook intuitively. It becomes a part of you.  
  When your body gets clearer, there is more energy behind each thought so there is less ritual required to fuel the results. When your energy gets very clear, thinking is not even needed.

 For example, this week my slave rover has written me a few times telling me he has been ill with some kind of flu. I made no move to heal him. he has been trained how to heal himself and if he cannot be bothered to remember to use what I have taught him, then he can go ahead and be sick. he came to visit me tonight, telling me he could not stay long as he was still weak and had to sleep. When he had been here for two hours, I asked him what happened to his flu? It was gone. I did not do anything, but he was sitting at my feet, in my energy field and it/Goddess healed him autopilot... as I knew it would... So I kept him to serve my pleasure and did not release him till dawn.

: Before I started this course clearing my physiology after healing was quite a consequent issue which could last up to 1 hour and a half... I took the help for this from a new age cd I found by chance which indicates how to clear each chakkra with its corresponding cosmic ray and who is the guardian from this ray. According to this cd, violet is the color of the second chakkra. But you told me once it is the color for the top chakra?
: According to them rubis is the color for the solar plexus, but you said once gold is the color for this chakra? Could I find somewhere a link listing the correspondence between chakras and cosmic rays?

You can do a websearch if you like, probably www.spiritweb.org would have some pages on it.

 Personally, I find that stuff is too much thinking. Anything you put a lot of faith in, will work, because the energy of your attention is magical. There are dozens of different explanations and magical systems for working with the chakras, but many of them are people making things too complicated, to give their ego a feeling of accomplishment. I call them Macrame projects, tying something in knots to feel clever. I find a lot of people who get into systems like Theosphy, tend to have more of an intellectual understanding of spirituality, than an experiential one... which is like having none at all. Experience teaches. It may feed pride but it does not truly help self esteem in the way that surrender, gratitude and humility do. I prefer to keep things as simple as possible, and not make a lot of esoteric handles that ego can latch onto and think itself wise. Better to stay simple and humble. If something is elegantly simple then it is more likely to be true. Goddess does not make the road back to her a complicated thing, we do. Ordering the chakras according to the colours of the rainbow and the notes on a musical scale is simple and natural. Complicated stuff just becomes attachments that must be surrendered, later.  

: Anyway I probably need to still strenghen my faith cuz clearing my physiology is not yet automatic, but it is now much easier, may be because I am more grounded?

Yes. Everytime you ground yourself, more fear/karma gets cleared from your body. The more karma is cleared, the more energy you have, and the more power goes behind each thought.

 Usually I tell people to slow down when taking this course, but I want you to speed up. You are experienced, and your wonderful receptivity to Shaktipat is carrying you along faster. You seem to be recieving the intuitive information in the course very well, but you are getting bogged down by thinking too much, trying to understand intellectually, what you already know intuitively.

  Usually it is the opposite, students who have not yet opened the upper chakras need to take more time absorbing the words to get the intuitive information. Take 2 or three lessons a week for a few weeks. A lot of the stuff in upcoming lessons is familiar to you, and you are already experiencing stuff that does not usually come up, till later in the course.

Blessings!  

: With much love and merci beaucoup...
: DeviRam






DeviRam

: : Good evening Mystress, or rather good day for you may be you are walking under the sun in beautiful Canada...

: Hello, DeviRam.

: : I still feel progress with the experience of grounding, and your lesson on earth and sky energy came right to verify the experience. I am actually very, very familiar with the sky energy, but discover the earth one. When I ground now I feel distinctly the slow, cool, thick whitish energy slowly filling the body. I even feel a neat difference in my pulse. I don't know if you know AyurVeda? it is a health system in which one basic principle is that the body is constitued mainly of 3 elements, vatta, pitta, kapha, kapha can be I thingk associated with the earth element. It was till now almost undetectable from my pulse, and now it is as strong and clear than the 2 others...

: I have heard of ayerveda and read a little of it, but I do not know much. I am very curious about how you would detect the body balance in the pulse?

I'll try to find something which explain well and send it to you. Basically, you put the 3 middle fingers  of your right hand on your left wrist, laying the back of the left arm on the palm of the right hand. the second finger indicates vatta, air element, the third pitta, fire element, the fourth kapha, earth element
When the person is completely balanced, the pulse you feel under the three fingers is completely even. If one is stronger, or one very weak, you know that there is an imbalance on the level of this dosha-elemenet. Then you can also very precisely detect all the organs and all the subtilities of the body by feeling the different little parts under every finger. This I never really practice enough to explain it well.
Your answers are very precious. I love your answer about the monkey lady and about reminding me to remain in the simplicity... What you say is always very inspiring to me.
There are 5 baby deers born from the big north american deers in our natural park... and they seem like pure wonder...
All love
: : There is an experience I wonder a bit about : The other day while grounding and strongly feeling the earth energy, I perceived a Being different from those I am used to preceive : a Baing who could be a Lady, with a strong and smallish body, quite primaire face, (I mean by this different from the Celestials Beings I am familiar with ) . Could this be Mother Earth? She seemed to incarnate all the qualities of the Earth...

: I had to read this post three times to understand what you were talking about... Ah primate?
:   My DB reminded me, the monkey lady!! LOL!! Yes, I have seen her and been her, tho I did not associate her with the Earth Goddess Gaia... for me she was just one more passing phenomena, tho a delightful one. She used to show up in my mirror, and some of my more intuitive friends saw me morph into her occasionally. I only ever saw her face over mine, and she looks like a neanderthal- but she is pure joy happy monkey-love with no ego at all. No speech, really. Just happy loving emotions, very childlike it her innocence yet wise like a Mother.
:   To me she seemed like a genetic memory from the collective, and I nicknamed her "Eve." Not for the biblical Eve so much as the oldest human ancestor out of Africa we all trace our DNA from. The mother of us all.
:   For me, the Earth Goddess Gaia has a slightly different flavor, more complex and wise, more like a Faierie queen, than the elegant simplicity of the monkey lady. I do not see Gaia in human form.

: : It reminded me that I saw such a Being in PAris for the first time : there I think I healed an indigo child- THe entities in this aura did not seem to be human beings. And as he had a very hard energy in the heart, I offered this energy to the Divine. The personnification of the Divine who came surprised me a lot... She was too with a sort primaire face, short body, very different from anything I had met before , but a bit similar to the Being who could be Mother Earth. May be it was the Goddess from the Planet of origin of this child? Seems a bit far-fetched... But what do you think?

:   I think she is the child's humanity, reclaiming him from external influences. He came here to be born human and be human, his resistance to being human hardened his heart and attracted resonant entities.

: : Anyway I am jolly glad with the progress in grounding...
: : I have been all this time trying to understand what you mean by the Divine Beloved : This Mother Divine of white Light who is by me all the time these days, is She my Divine Beloved? I seem to have many Divine Beloved... Christ is one of Them, the sight of Him makes me shiver with Bliss...Is the Divine Beloved the personnification of the Divine Void on a personnal level?

: Gosh, what a lot of questions... some of them, are maybe too much thinking... Silence might explain it better than I can.

:   Not that I am trying to discourage your questions, but rather because the Beloved must reveal himself to you. For me to try to define too much, limits the possibilities of your experience. Do not try too hard to understand the DB intellectually. That is limiting to him.
:    Earth and Sky energy is lesson #10... introducing the DB is lesson #25. Keep doing the lessons, and give it time. The DB will reveal himself to you, when he is ready, and you must surrender to that and not try to second guess too much.  

:  
: : You say you can be having breakfast and in the same time have hundred things going on on the level of your spiritual Self. Is it the same for the Ascended Masters who left earth? For instance when Christ or MAry come and I see them, are they in the same time busy in thousands other places or planes?

: Of course! Time and space do not exist for them. They no longer have a physical body so they are not limited to linear perceptions.

: I presume I am not the only one who see them when I do? If we see them, it is because they kept their earthly body? What about the celestial Beings who never had a human body? Is it their celestial Body we perceive? Or do we create a body for them as we perceive their energy?

:   Yes, they have a body in our perceptions. How you see them is a reflection of who you are.

: : For you Mother Earth seem to be the Goddess, and you also speak of the Goddess of the Void. Is for you the Goddess of the Void the supreme Goddess, the one who is All, who is everything, ie all the GOds and Goddesses, and the Goddess Earth your favorite manifestation of the Goddess of the Void? Or how do you see the connection between them?

: When I speak of Goddess, I mean many things at once, but they are all One. All manifestations spring from the Void. Earth is one manifestation, and so are we. It is the human ego consciousness that wants to sort them and file them in their pigeonholes. Labeling things.

: : I am very inspired by what you say about faith being the only thing necessary to send entities in the light ect...

: Yes.. the stronger your faith gets and the clearer your body gets, the more things simply happen automatically. When you are still growing faith, the rituals serve to increase the energy of your focus and fuel the results.

:   It is like any new discipline. Learning Kung Fu, or music or cooking... first you learn the steps one by one and follow them carefully... but once you really know them on a body-level you can play music without thinking, or cook intuitively. It becomes a part of you.  
:    When your body gets clearer, there is more energy behind each thought so there is less ritual required to fuel the results. When your energy gets very clear, thinking is not even needed.

:   For example, this week my slave rover has written me a few times telling me he has been ill with some kind of flu. I made no move to heal him. he has been trained how to heal himself and if he cannot be bothered to remember to use what I have taught him, then he can go ahead and be sick. he came to visit me tonight, telling me he could not stay long as he was still weak and had to sleep. When he had been here for two hours, I asked him what happened to his flu? It was gone. I did not do anything, but he was sitting at my feet, in my energy field and it/Goddess healed him autopilot... as I knew it would... So I kept him to serve my pleasure and did not release him till dawn.

: : Before I started this course clearing my physiology after healing was quite a consequent issue which could last up to 1 hour and a half... I took the help for this from a new age cd I found by chance which indicates how to clear each chakkra with its corresponding cosmic ray and who is the guardian from this ray. According to this cd, violet is the color of the second chakkra. But you told me once it is the color for the top chakra?
: : According to them rubis is the color for the solar plexus, but you said once gold is the color for this chakra? Could I find somewhere a link listing the correspondence between chakras and cosmic rays?

: You can do a websearch if you like, probably www.spiritweb.org would have some pages on it.

:   Personally, I find that stuff is too much thinking. Anything you put a lot of faith in, will work, because the energy of your attention is magical. There are dozens of different explanations and magical systems for working with the chakras, but many of them are people making things too complicated, to give their ego a feeling of accomplishment. I call them Macrame projects, tying something in knots to feel clever. I find a lot of people who get into systems like Theosphy, tend to have more of an intellectual understanding of spirituality, than an experiential one... which is like having none at all. Experience teaches. It may feed pride but it does not truly help self esteem in the way that surrender, gratitude and humility do. I prefer to keep things as simple as possible, and not make a lot of esoteric handles that ego can latch onto and think itself wise. Better to stay simple and humble. If something is elegantly simple then it is more likely to be true. Goddess does not make the road back to her a complicated thing, we do. Ordering the chakras according to the colours of the rainbow and the notes on a musical scale is simple and natural. Complicated stuff just becomes attachments that must be surrendered, later.  

: : Anyway I probably need to still strenghen my faith cuz clearing my physiology is not yet automatic, but it is now much easier, may be because I am more grounded?

: Yes. Everytime you ground yourself, more fear/karma gets cleared from your body. The more karma is cleared, the more energy you have, and the more power goes behind each thought.

:   Usually I tell people to slow down when taking this course, but I want you to speed up. You are experienced, and your wonderful receptivity to Shaktipat is carrying you along faster. You seem to be recieving the intuitive information in the course very well, but you are getting bogged down by thinking too much, trying to understand intellectually, what you already know intuitively.

:    Usually it is the opposite, students who have not yet opened the upper chakras need to take more time absorbing the words to get the intuitive information. Take 2 or three lessons a week for a few weeks. A lot of the stuff in upcoming lessons is familiar to you, and you are already experiencing stuff that does not usually come up, till later in the course.

: Blessings!  

: : With much love and merci beaucoup...
: : DeviRam