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Come to the chats! They so rock! Alchemy lesson.

Started by Mystress, Aug 13, 2014, 08:11:58 AM

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Mystress


  Only 4 people attended the August chat, quiet is normal for summertime but I want to encourage more students to come out for them.

  It is more fun and rewarding when more students attend, but we had a blast anyway.
  I don't usually post the chats but I asked the students consent to post this one just to show what can happen in that temple. I respond to questions about FST in the chats, and help students sort individual issues so the group can all learn from them, but I often teach stuff that is not in FST, sometimes teach things I have not written down anywhere, or try out new stuff Goddess has shown me.  The topics of the chats are spontaneous, based on students questions or what I have been up to that week.

  This time a question about shielding became a lesson about the essence of Alchemy that links together ideas from several different lessons in FST.  I might not have taught it quite the same way if there were women in the chat. Men insulting each other is sometimes a sort of male bonding thing that seems a bit strange to women.

  Keep in mind, this is about 2.5 hours of chat, you can probably read it over in about 10 minutes but you will get more out of it if you read it very slowly and try out everything I tell the students to do, yourself as if you were there.

  Enjoy!


[10:57] Mystress: heya peeps
[11:00] Duu: Hello Mystress
[11:01] Duu: Hello all
[11:01] Gustaf: Heya :)
[11:01] gopi: heya Mystress
[11:01] gopi: Hi Duu
[11:02] gopi: hi Gustaf
[11:04] Mystress: so whats on your mind?
[11:04] gopi: I have a small story to share
[11:04] Mystress: ok
[11:05] gopi: a week ago I thought to myself, I should ask Mystress at this month's chat to teach me how to cast a spell to protect myself energy wise. Since I will be going to Burning Man soon.
[11:05] gopi: Went to sleep. Morning 4 am had a dream
[11:05] gopi: An armadillo came and wouldn't let me sleep
[11:06] gopi: till i woke up and saw the totem meaning of it
[11:06] gopi: http://www.linsdomain.com/totems/pages/armadillo.htm
[11:06] gopi: Armadillo teaches you how to protect yourself
and when to let your defenses down.
Make yourself a energy body shield using Armadillo medicine.
[11:07] gopi: Goddess also sent this article my way while looking this up online
[11:07] gopi: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/7/armadillos-slinking-their-way-into-indiana/
[11:07] gopi: I live in Indiana btw
[11:07] gopi: lol
[11:07] gopi: then I went back to sleep
[11:07] gopi: so... thank you Mystress :)
[11:08] gopi: and thank you Goddess
[11:08] gopi: I love you
[11:15] Mystress: so you want to shield yourself?
[11:16] gopi: I want to leave it to my guardian angel and Goddess to decide what is good for me
[11:16] gopi: and protect me from unwanted energies, if any
[11:16] Mystress: so...?
[11:17] Mystress: did you learn karma vamp?
[11:17] ernstl entered chat range (10.74 m).
[11:17] Mystress: heya ernst
[11:17] gopi: Duu taught us during a workshop but a refresher would be most welcome
[11:17] gopi: hi ernst
[11:18] ernstl: hello Mystress - hello everybody
[11:18] Mystress: lets talk about shielding, first
[11:18] Mystress: get grounded, feel discernment
[11:18] Gustaf: Hello!
[11:22] Mystress: ask your discernemnt if I am using any kind of shielding right now.
[11:22] Gustaf: No
[11:22] Duu: no
[11:23] gopi: feels like a no
[11:23] Mystress: and when was the last time I did?
[11:24] gopi: can't get any answer
[11:24] Gustaf: Long time ago
[11:25] Mystress: what to do is start naming dates and see which gets a yes... last week, last month, last year, last decade etc...
[11:26] gopi: somewhere between year and decade?
[11:27] Duu: last decade or farther down,
[11:27] Mystress: ok :)
[11:27] Mystress: what would happen to me if I tried it?
[11:28] gopi: step in the way of Goddess?
[11:28] Gustaf: You would limit yourself, and it would affect your perceptions as well
[11:28] gopi: As in fall out of 'Goddess has it handled'
[11:29] Mystress listens waiting for the others to respond
[11:29] ernstl: shielding is judgment - it turns against you
[11:30] ernstl: good/bad ... kind of story
[11:30] Mystress: nods .. duu?
[11:30] Duu: it is a gesture of disconection.
[11:31] Mystress: you all are right.
[11:31] Mystress: the separation I create would be making a separation within myself
[11:31] Mystress: it would be giving energy to fear
[11:32] Mystress: and my world would be influenced by the belief
[11:32] gopi: sneaky
[11:32] Mystress: what you see of the world is your own reflection
[11:34] Mystress: what is it you think you need protecting from?
[11:37] gopi: fear mostly tends to be a habitual response. Sort of auto-pilot behavior.
[11:38] Mystress: do you want to validate the fear?
[11:38] gopi: nope
[11:38] Gustaf: You taught me, that the body has natural boundaries, boundaries of each chakra/dimension, but that I had created unnatural boundaries through my ego. That's the only "shielding" we need, the natural boundaries?
[11:39] Mystress: if you stay grounded and listen, the body will always tell when it feels its boundaries are being disrespected
[11:39] Mystress: stay grounded, I am going to send each of you a little invasive poke... feel your power chakra
[11:40] Mystress: what did you get?
[11:41] Mystress: pokes harder
[11:42] Duu: :)
[11:42] Mystress: well, so I suck at being mean to people...
[11:42] Duu: not feeling it, but might be even worse sign.
[11:42] ernstl: :)
[11:43] ernstl: I felt the energy but it was more pleasant
[11:43] gopi: i was gonna say... 'Well... who doesn't like getting poked by Mystress' :P
[11:44] Mystress: years of discipline turns a smack, all hearts and butterflies
[11:44] Gustaf: I feel it like a small irritation and a sense of going inside "Ok enough"
[11:45] Mystress: ok so going around the circle of fellas, clockwise from duu, tell gopi hes an asshole
[11:45] Duu: ehm
[11:45] gopi: lol
[11:45] Duu: well I have the signal in me :)
[11:45] Mystress waits
[11:46] gopi: nods
[11:46] gopi: pokey
[11:46] Mystress: didnt hear it?
[11:46] Duu: gopi you are an asshole
[11:47] ernstl: brb - client restart
[11:47] ernstl left chat range.
[11:47] Mystress: gopi tell gustaf he is a rat bastard
[11:47] gopi: Gustaf you're a rat bastard!
[11:47] Gustaf: I knew it!
[11:48] gopi: lolz
[11:48] Gustaf: Sorry, hard to not laugh :)
[11:48] Mystress: gustaf tell duu he is a shithead
[11:48] ernstl entered chat range (4.36 m).
[11:49] Mystress: actually tell ernst now he's back
[11:50] Mystress waits
[11:50] Gustaf: Duu, you are a shithead!
[11:50] Gustaf: Ernst you are a shithead!
[11:50] Mystress: heh
[11:51] Gustaf: You are all shitheads!
[11:51] gopi: :D
[11:51] Duu: oh you meditated upon that.
[11:51] Mystress: ernst tell gustaf hes a loser
[11:51] ernstl: Gustaf you are a looser!
[11:52] Mystress: good.. so, feedback:  even though you knew the insults were not sincere, how did ego and body react?
[11:53] ernstl: as you said - very mild version ... but kind of invasive disturbance attempt
[11:53] Duu: not too strongly. And there was influx of various energies.
[11:54] gopi: nods. same
[11:54] Mystress: what did mind and power chakra do?
[11:54] Mystress: or feel
[11:55] Duu whispers: But I was disturbed at my reluctance almost inability to write the sentence. That might be my ego.
[11:55] Gustaf left chat range.
[11:55] Duu: in power chakra there was contraction, almost feeling of isolating myself.
[11:57] ernstl: power chakra .... kind of disturbance of control
[11:58] gopi: almost like a mild but uncomfortable tummy ache in upper stomach/diaphragm area
[11:59] Mystress: ok isolate where the energy hit you, locate it
[11:59] Mystress: move it up into your heart
[12:00] Mystress: what happens?
[12:01] Duu: transmutes, lightens
[12:01] ernstl: it was so mild/small but still the heart move has harmonized it
[12:02] gopi: it was like throwing fuel over fire. Blaze of energy
[12:03] Mystress: nice eh?
[12:03] Mystress: how does the blaze of energy feel?
[12:04] Duu: just light energy, its very nice. Its really as it was brought to peace
[12:04] Mystress: does it burn you or feed you?
[12:05] gopi: it is both exciting and calming at the same time
[12:05] Duu: its freely available again...
[12:05] gopi: nods
[12:05] gopi: no fear
[12:05] Duu: as before it was bound by us.
[12:05] Mystress: heart does not judge
[12:06] Mystress: ok duu tell gopi he is wonderful
[12:06] Duu: gopi you are wonderful
[12:06] gopi: thank you Duu :)
[12:06] Mystress: gopi tell ernst he is fabulous
[12:07] gopi: ernst.. You're FABULOUS!
[12:07] ernstl: Gopi you are fabulous too !!!
[12:07] Mystress: ersnt tell duu he is amazing
[12:07] ernstl: Oh  Duu you are amazing!!!
[12:08] Mystress: now just as before feel how the energy hit your power chakra
[12:08] gopi: way much more gentle energy
[12:08] gopi: no unease
[12:09] Mystress listens
[12:09] ernstl: it feeds it and it reacts with growing .....
[12:10] Mystress: duu?
[12:10] Duu: I felt it hit power chakra but also heart and head....
[12:10] Duu: It was nice feeling but also limiting
[12:10] Mystress: but all of you, are now carrying foreign energy in your power chakra eh?
[12:10] gopi: nods
[12:11] ernstl: yes
[12:11] Mystress: so whats the difference?
[12:11] Mystress: locate the energy, move it up into your heart
[12:12] Mystress: what happens?
[12:12] gopi: interesting... I felt a very strong but calm energy.. almost like calm waterfalls
[12:13] gopi: heavy flow of energy but very life affirming and nonthreatening
[12:13] Duu: well logic would say they should feel in heart same. But I do feel a different flavour to it. more joyous.
[12:14] Mystress: ernst?
[12:14] ernstl: external stimulus has influence on power chakra / both are invasive ... tricky I am still waiting for the insight
[12:14] gopi: yes... what Duu said... first was more fire flavor. This is more water flavor.
[12:15] ernstl: ... just a sec
[12:15] Mystress: :)
[12:15] Mystress: is there really any difference except that one was resisted and the other accepted?
[12:16] Duu: No. But I also noticed now, that I also slightly resisted the good thing...
[12:16] Mystress: both are projections
[12:17] gopi: ok
[12:17] Duu: yes
[12:17] ernstl: keep the focus in the heart
[12:17] Mystress: we go around again, duu to gopi to ernst to duu.. this time make up your own insults but give unconditional love and acceptance to what is said to you
[12:18] Duu: ok
[12:18] Mystress: just think of something someone said to you once that you did not like to hear and say it
[12:19] Duu: gopi you are awful.
[12:19] gopi: ernst no one likes you
[12:19] ernstl: Duu you are ignorant
[12:20] Mystress giggles
[12:20] Mystress: so... what happened?
[12:20] ernstl: its gone .... dissolved
[12:20] Duu: yes projection vanishes only words remain.
[12:21] Mystress: send the words to your heart
[12:22] Duu: yes transmuted there to a play to a joy.
[12:22] Mystress: gopi?
[12:23] Mystress: he tranced I think..
[12:23] Mystress: we rocked his world
[12:23] gopi: nothing left to say
[12:24] Mystress: so what sort of shielding did you want to learn? some armadillo thing?
[12:24] Mystress: :)
[12:24] gopi: hahah
[12:25] Mystress: gopi you suck hairy moose cocks.
[12:25] gopi: :D
[12:26] Mystress giggles
[12:26] gopi: lean meat
[12:26] gopi: lol
[12:26] Mystress: ooohh! lol
[12:28] Mystress: karma vampires learn to shine unconditional love to transmute karma stuff
[12:28] Mystress: whats the difference between that and this?
[12:29] gopi: dunno if vampires need consent to take on someone else's karma
[12:29] Duu: none
[12:29] Duu: in basic
[12:31] Mystress nods
[12:32] Mystress: instead of aiming unconditional love and acceptance, you were *being* unconditional love and acceptance.
[12:32] Duu: I just wanted to note that sometimes I was too entangled and then the technique of stepping back greatly helped.
[12:33] gopi: nods
[12:33] Mystress: is there really any difference in the incoming energy, insult or flattery, aside from your judgments?
[12:33] ernstl: nope
[12:34] gopi: nope
[12:34] Mystress: energy is energy
[12:34] Mystress: and what about your own karma?
[12:35] Duu: just energy and my opinion.
[12:35] Mystress: think of something you do not like about yourself, and move it into your heart
[12:35] Duu: mmmmmm
[12:35] Mystress: what happens?
[12:36] Duu: imediate release
[12:37] Mystress listens
[12:37] gopi: “Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love.”
~ Rainer Maria Rilke
[12:37] Devon entered chat range (10.73 m).
[12:37] Mystress: hey devon
[12:37] Mystress: we are doing alchemy
[12:38] Devon: hello and sorry, I got hung up
[12:38] gopi: hi devon
[12:38] ernstl: hi Devon
[12:38] Mystress: so what is your karma, really?
[12:39] ernstl: energy frozen by judgement
[12:39] gopi: unloved parts
[12:39] Duu: yes just opinions
[12:40] Mystress: think of the worst thing you have ever done, what you feel most guilty about.. move it into your heart
[12:41] gopi: oh wow
[12:41] Mystress: what happens?
[12:41] Devon: not all negative I think, its where ever your incredibly complex interactions with the universe bring you, but yes frozen illusion
[12:42] Mystress: did you try it?
[12:42] Devon: trying to pick one
[12:45] Mystress: what happened gopi?
[12:45] Mystress: oh we blew his mind again, how about you duu?
[12:45] Devon: yes
[12:46] Duu: I transmuted many things in this minutes.
[12:46] Mystress: how did it feel?
[12:46] Duu: Releasing, freeing relaxing and very well.
[12:47] Mystress: ernst?
[12:47] ernstl: like KV .. energy flash
[12:48] Mystress: How about you devon?
[12:49] Devon: I was thinking of a single incident, then it became diffuse, to everything bad, ever, loving it was hard then it melted
[12:49] Mystress: :)
[12:49] Mystress: how do you feel?
[12:49] Devon: cleaner
[12:49] Mystress: we started the alchemy game by insulting each other
[12:50] Mystress: who wants to summarize that for devon?
[12:50] Devon: sorry I missed that
[12:51] Mystress: since we are only 5, I am picking on people.. duu, summarize for devon
[12:51] Duu: I maybe feel it less as transmuting to energy but as transmuting to rising of vibration. But most issues I have a hard time to even find after that..
[12:51] Duu: ok
[12:52] Mystress: gopi wanted to be an armadillo so we study alchemy
[12:53] Devon: smiles
[12:53] Mystress: and he sucks hairy moose cocks. :) You all do. Big ones.
[12:53] Duu: we insulted and praised one another, to find out how it feels. And when we discovered how, we moved it to heart chakra to transmute.
[12:54] Devon: thank you duu
[12:54] Mystress: energy is energy except for our judgments about it
[12:54] Mystress: the heart is the philosophers stone
[12:55] Mystress: check discernment for truth
[12:55] ernstl: yes :)
[12:55] Mystress: is there any other philosophers stone, but the heart ?
[12:56] ernstl: the heart is the philosophers stone
[12:56] Mystress: here is some lead: "You all are evil bitches." Transmute.
[12:56] Duu: nice exorcism
[12:56] Mystress: send it into the heart
[12:57] Mystress: what do you get?
[12:58] gopi: shadow
[12:58] Mystress: ?
[12:58] ernstl: gold
[12:58] Mystress: how does the gold feel?
[12:59] Duu: :) It brings out also also joyfulness. So its not without flavour I would feel.
[12:59] Devon: it made me laugh, giggle really, and vision of people sprouting butterfly wings
[12:59] Duu: :)
[13:00] gopi: like the warmth of sunset on a beach
[13:00] gopi: :)
[13:01] Mystress: think of something that really annoys you abut someone else
[13:01] Mystress: send your annoyance into your heart
[13:02] Mystress: what happens?
[13:02] Duu: it clears and peace comes.
[13:02] gopi: feels like a huge burden being lifted
[13:04] Devon: a flare of annoyance at first for having to give up intentions of doing bad things to them, they're *really* annoying, then laughing at myself and letting it melt in the crucible
[13:04] Mystress: what does it become?
[13:05] Devon: light, empty
[13:05] Duu: clear perception, a space for fresh things.
[13:05] gopi: just more energy
[13:05] Mystress: was it ever really about them? or about your reaction to them?
[13:05] gopi: projections
[13:06] Duu: it was in me and indeed my stuff.
[13:07] Mystress: think of something that frightens you
[13:07] Mystress: send it into the heart
[13:07] Mystress: what do you get?
[13:09] gopi: suddenly opens up so much space inside
[13:10] Duu: for me it was bit harder than those before. And feeling rising of vibration.
[13:10] Mystress: thats ascension, when you have released all fears
[13:10] Duu: and excess of energy almost to the point of dropping it.
[13:11] Duu: *of needing to drop it.
[13:11] Mystress: ok, try it again but focus on isolating and packaging the fear before sending it to the heart, so there are no tendrils trailing
[13:12] Duu: :) yes thats it
[13:13] Mystress: ernst what did you get?
[13:13] ernstl: I have nothing to fear
[13:13] Mystress: lol.. ask EB about that
[13:13] Mystress: or you mean after?
[13:14] Mystress: devon?
[13:15] ernstl: no before - EB would show me instantly .... and if not responded with UC love .... it gets worse
[13:15] Devon: the old saying I have nothing to fear for my heart is pure
[13:15] Mystress: imagine standing alone on a small stage in the middle of a packed stadium,
[13:16] Mystress: 30,000 people are looking at you, the camera is looking at you, your face is on the big screen being televised world wide
[13:17] Mystress: feel the fear and send it into your heart
[13:18] Mystress: what happens?
[13:19] ernstl: oh ... I tried to get into the feeling of fear ... and moved into the heart ... transmuted into joy :-)
[13:19] Mystress: some of you got quite ungrounded at the idea
[13:19] Devon: I don't fear that particular thing, Id probably do a dance , so substituted a huge number of people seeing me do something that would shame me.......that fear melted
[13:20] Mystress: good... ok now imagine the crowd is a lynch mob wants to rip you to bits yelling insults
[13:21] Mystress: transmute
[13:22] gopi: Holy Mother of God!
[13:22] gopi: You're rocking my world right now
[13:22] Mystress: yes its fun :)
[13:22] Devon: this one is the hardest
[13:26] Mystress: locate the fears, gather them up in a ball, send to the heart
[13:29] ernstl: Thank you Mystress, Duu, Gustaf, Gopi and Devon for this magical chat ... I will go to bed - good night.
[13:29] Mystress: good night ernst, thanks for coming
[13:29] Devon: g'night Ernstl , nice seeing you
[13:29] Duu: Bye ernst
[13:30] gopi: bye ernst
[13:30] ernstl left chat range.
[13:31] Mystress: so what did you get?
[13:32] Duu: deep surrender
[13:32] Mystress: how do you feel?
[13:34] Gustaf entered chat range (5.27 m).
[13:34] Mystress: wb gustaf
[13:34] gopi: so much at ease
[13:34] Duu: no specific feeling.
[13:35] Gustaf: You shouldn't have called me a moron, that's why I left! :)
[13:35] Gustaf: Thanks! Sorry, Internet has been up and down all day.
[13:35] Mystress: lol
[13:35] Mystress: we have moved on to being insulted and threatened by a whole stadium of people
[13:36] Devon: I couldn't do it. If the situation were real enough to be fearsome, flight or fight reactions would be cranked way up...I tend to get to a place then where its moot if to call it fear or a kind of ecstacy....so the best I could do was "kill me, I love you"
[13:37] Mystress: how did that feel?
[13:37] Devon: I'm not sure......good
[13:39] Mystress: "The buddha walks through the battlefield unscathed, the stones and arrows do not find him."
[13:39] Mystress: gopi, what does that mean to you, right now?
[13:40] Devon: murmers , no bad pork did him in
[13:40] Mystress: some say thats a bad translation, it was mushrooms
[13:40] gopi: lol
[13:41] gopi: Buddha is not touched by misery around him
[13:41] Mystress: jesus wept...
[13:41] gopi: when he stops seeing it as misery
[13:42] Mystress: it's a little more specific than that
[13:42] Mystress: get into a state of love and acceptance
[13:42] Mystress: got it?
[13:42] gopi: nods
[13:42] Mystress: ok everybody insult gopi
[13:43] Mystress: you got shit for brains, gopi
[13:43] Devon: your mother dresses you funny you little twit
[13:44] Mystress: duu?
[13:44] Duu: gopi you are stupid
[13:44] Mystress: gustaf?
[13:45] Mystress: so.. did our stones and arrows find you?
[13:45] gopi: no
[13:46] Mystress: yay! Though you walk through the valley of death and debauchery that is burning man, will you fear ?
[13:46] gopi: no
[13:46] gopi: :)
[13:46] Mystress: :)
[13:46] gopi: Thank you Mystress... *kisses feet*
[13:47] Mystress: ooo :)
[13:47] Duu: :)
[13:47] Devon: :)
[13:47] Mystress: any questions?
[13:47] gopi: the folks I meet in this temple are such cool people. Thank you all
[13:48] Gustaf: Yeah, it feels like nothing!
[13:48] Gustaf: Sorry, I had to catch up again
[13:49] Mystress: np
[13:50] Mystress: anybody else want to try it?
[13:51] Duu: No questions. I had an emotional problem writing the insults so I moved those tensions to the heart too. Well worth it.
[13:51] Mystress: :)
[13:52] Mystress: is true I never heard you say a bad thing about anybody
[13:53] Devon: I'll try , he can practice on me
[13:53] Duu: ego that wants to be too nice can be certainly a problem..
[13:53] Mystress: ya
[13:54] Mystress: ok devon get into a state of love and acceptance
[13:54] Devon: yes Mystress
[13:54] Duu: from fear it fears to be bad, confrontational.. is too much conflict avoiding.
[13:54] Mystress: yes
[13:55] Mystress: ready devon?
[13:55] Devon: yes
[13:55] Mystress: ok everybody insult devon
[13:55] gopi: Devon, you're an idiot!
[13:55] Mystress: you are a gaping asshole devon
[13:55] Mystress: duu is still getting the hang...
[13:56] Duu: you worthless piece of shit.
[13:56] Duu: :)
[13:56] Duu: of course
[13:56] Mystress: send the stuff into your heart if anything got through
[13:56] Devon: aha thank you Sir , may I have another
[13:56] Mystress: :)
[13:56] Mystress: good
[13:56] Mystress: how did it feel?
[13:57] Devon: it was fine
[13:58] Mystress: think of a time in the past when you felt judged, criticized... but stay in the state of acceptance
[13:58] Mystress: everyone... try it
[13:58] Devon: nods
[13:58] Duu: ok
[13:59] Gustaf: Since I came back from being a bit outside.. The whole thing reminds me of sparring practice!
[13:59] Mystress: find some past confrontation that is painful to remember... send it into your heart
[14:01] Gustaf: It melts away..
[14:02] Mystress: :)
[14:04] Mystress: think of a time you felt very victimized... send it into your heart
[14:06] Mystress: what happens?
[14:06] Gustaf: Warmth, and profound insights about the "perpetrator" she was afraid.
[14:07] Mystress: nods... there is no evil, only fear and actions motivated by fear.
[14:07] Duu: for me this was tough, some memory appeared. But it cleared.
[14:07] Mystress: by the same token, everything is love or a cry for love
[14:08] Mystress: think of the ones who victimized you, ask to see the fear that moved them and the love they needed
[14:09] gopi: huh
[14:09] Gustaf: Yeah, I can see that very clearly
[14:09] Devon: all too clearly
[14:10] Duu: yes I see that.
[14:10] Mystress: eye opening eh?
[14:10] Duu: so they were more like victims of their own insecurity..
[14:11] gopi: nods
   (Additional Alchemy, victimhood and resentment transmuted to compassion and forgiveness. "It is only with the heart, that one can see clearly, what is essential is invisible to the eye." http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/littleprince.pdf )
[14:11] Mystress: which is fear and a lack of self love together
[14:12] Gustaf: Is insecurity and low self esteem the same thing, and how does it relate to lack of self love?
[14:12] gopi: it is very interesting how family karma bonds come untangled automatically just by seeing their source of fear
[14:12] Mystress: yes to gopi
[14:13] Mystress: no to gustaf... who was that pro golfer who cheated on his wife with dozens of women?
[14:13] Mystress: big news story a few years back
[14:13] gopi: tiger woods?
[14:13] Gustaf: Tiger Woods?
[14:13] Mystress: yes... he had loads of confidence eh?
[14:14] Mystress: big winner, athlete... but did he love himself? Why did he need that female validation?
[14:14] Gustaf: This is a trap I have been in as well. Where does it come from?
[14:15] Mystress: the place inside yourself that believes it is not worthy to be loved
[14:16] Mystress: that is always at the core of such issues
[14:16] gopi: pretty much all my troubles start there
[14:16] gopi: lol
[14:16] Mystress: find it, send it into your heart where all the love is
[14:17] Gustaf: I have missed that step. Mostly focused on clearing.
[14:18] Mystress: yes when you peel all the layers by clearing, you get down to that core and it is always the same
[14:18] Mystress: send love to that place or send the place into the love...
[14:19] Mystress: the emotional layers
[14:19] Mystress: think of something that made you very angry
[14:19] Gustaf: Ok
[14:20] Mystress: layers, anger then hurt then fear then the insecurity of something that feels unworthy to be loved
[14:20] Gustaf: It makes sense somehow. Is it always like that, or similar?
[14:21] Mystress: yes, with anger
[14:21] Mystress: all emotions are some combination of love and fear
[14:21] Mystress: lets trace some of them
[14:21] Mystress: what is jealousy?
[14:21] Gustaf: Attachment and fear of loss
[14:22] Mystress: love and fear of not being worthy ? love and insecurity?
[14:22] gopi: some sense of feeling unloved in comparison
[14:22] Mystress: comparing, is evidence of insecurity
[14:23] Mystress: how about grief?
[14:24] Mystress: love and pain of loss, fear of not reconnecting, the fears of grief can be complex
[14:24] Duu: i think many have also aspect of illusion in them, like the belief that they can solve internal problem trough external things.
[14:25] Mystress: how do you define that fear
[14:25] Gustaf: Fear of not reconnecting.. that's very clear
[14:25] gopi: seeing oneself as unworthy of the Divine's love
[14:26] gopi: self-judgment
[14:26] Mystress: what is hope?
[14:26] gopi: procastinating surrender
[14:26] Mystress: love and fear of the future that wants to control outcomes
[14:27] Mystress: the only emotions that are not of that spectrum are spiritual states
[14:27] Mystress: love, peace, joy
[14:27] Mystress: you have done the soul meditation and felt the joy that is the nature of the soul
[14:28] Mystress: it is pure joy, the soul does not fear
[14:28] Mystress: the peace of being well grounded... it is a state that is without fear
[14:28] Gustaf: Not seeking for or lacking for anything either
[14:29] Mystress: the love of the Divine... is pure love that needs nothing
[14:29] Mystress: fears nothing
[14:29] Mystress: these are not emotions, they are spiritual states of being... do you see the distinction?
[14:30] Devon: not tied to karma
[14:30] Duu: fear to me is ultimately avoidance before some sort of death.
[14:31] Mystress: we say a mothers love is unconditional, but it is not, she loves the child because it is her child.
[14:31] gopi: nods
[14:31] Mystress: if you think a dog's love is unconditional, think what would happen if you stopped feeding it ?
[14:32] Mystress: will it still love you or will it bite off your hand and eat it
[14:32] Mystress: grrrr chomp nom nom
[14:33] Devon: can the same not be said for most kinds of human love, once it stops feeding the lover in whatever form they need, look out
[14:33] Mystress: yes
[14:33] Mystress: think of the people you love best, and look at what you need from them
[14:35] Mystress: do you see how human love is always conditional and coloured by need?
[14:36] gopi: nods
[14:36] Duu: yes
[14:36] Gustaf: Yup
[14:37] Mystress: does not mean it is not worthwhile... most of us also have a need to be needed, it is tribal bonding and emotional security
[14:37] gopi: But human relations can be used to cultivate and appreciate our unconditional love for the Divine that is in all?
[14:37] Mystress: everything is Goddess yes
[14:37] gopi: :)
[14:38] Mystress: do I have your consent to post this to tearoom?
[14:39] Duu: yes, sure.
[14:39] Mystress: will change names if you want
[14:39] Devon: fine
[14:39] gopi: yes. please go ahead.
[14:39] Mystress: wake up gustaf...
[14:40] Mystress: I will ask ernst separately
[14:40] Gustaf: Absolutely
[14:40] Mystress: thanks
[14:40] Gustaf: :)
[14:44] Duu: It is getting late here. Will have to go
[14:44] gopi: good night duu
[14:44] Mystress: yes time to wind up
[14:44] Devon: g'night duu
[14:44] Mystress: thanks for coming, everyone.. good chat!
[14:45] Duu: Thank you it was great chat.
[14:45] Gustaf: Thanks for the chat! :)
[14:45] gopi: thank you everyone for an awesome day
[14:45] Mystress: and now you are all skilled alchemists!
[14:45] Mystress: :)
[14:45] Duu: :)
[14:45] Devon: smiles
[14:45] Mystress: keep turning lead to gold and have a rich fulfilling life
[14:46] gopi: thank you Mystress
[14:46] Duu: a perfect advice.
[14:46] Gustaf: :) Will do!
[14:46] Mystress: ascension is also a goal of alchemy
[14:47] Mystress: keep transmuting fear and the vibration rises, ego dissolves
[14:47] gopi: nods
[14:49] Devon: thank you for a great chat
[14:49] Mystress: thank you all for coming

  Some notes on alchemy:

   Most people, when they think of alchemy, think of medieval scientists messing with chemistry in a hopeless effort to change one element, lead, into another element, gold, and frequently blowing themselves up. 

  That is the outer face of Alchemy. True Alchemy is what you learned in the chat. To understand why, you have to examine the time it was born from.

  In European medieval times, the Catholic Church had a total monopoly on spirituality, and anybody who was not a priest or accredited Church official, and tried to teach anything not based on the Bible, was likely to be sent to the Inquisition and be burnt as a heretic.

  At the same time, the Crusades were going on, thousands of Europeans headed off to what was then called Persia for conquest. The Persian knowledge of medicine, chemistry, architecture and astronomy made the Europeans look like superstitious hairy barbarians. The ones who had a brain were eager to learn, and they brought the sciences back with them when they returned home.

  This knowledge was a threat to the Church, unless it could be used to build bigger churches.  Masonic societies sprang up, outwardly they were trade unions,  all about profiting by keeping the mysteries of Persian architecture a tightly guarded secret but actually they were spiritual organizations hidden from the church.

  The Church sent Galileo the inquisition because the Church taught that the sun orbits around the flat Earth and the Earth as God's magnificent creation is the center of the universe, but science proved that was wrong, won the trials and so the Church had to make room for science, and drew clear lines of territory. The Church in charge of all things spiritual and Science could continue to examine the material.
  Doctors could practice healing but midwives and witches had to be burnt. This in time led to the separation of Church and State that most of the west knows today.

  So, in order to avoid the inquisition, the mysticism of Alchemy was couched in the language of science. Those who understood it, belonged to secret societies that often pretended to be about Architecture.  (Masonic) They kept a laboratory for show, and learned a few science experiments in case anybody asked, but mostly locked the door and used the lab as a private place to meditate.
  The ones who didn't get it, messed about with chemistry, tried to make the philosophers stone, frequently blew themselves up and along the way invented the science we call Chemistry. 

   To see how this worked, consider that the transmuted insults felt like fire, and the transmuted compliments felt like water. The four spiritual elements are earth, air, fire, and water and they are still with us today, in the suits of the tarot cards, in the watchtowers and archangels, and expressed as the compass directions. The concepts are surprisingly universal, the same in paths as disparate as Druidry and Feng Shui.

  We know these things are not elements at all, as far as science goes:  they are not on the periodic table of the elements. Fire is not an element, it is a chemical reaction of oxidation. Rust is a kind of slow fire. Water isn't an element, its a compound molecule of two elements: hydrogen and oxygen, H2O.

  To understand modern politics, just realize that the Crusades never ended. The People of the Book (Christianity, Judaism and Muslim religions are all based on the Hebrew Old Testament) are still fighting for control of the Holy Lands, for its sacred sites and its treasures. These days the treasure is petroleum, before that it was gold, silk and spices. George Bush is a Christian...

  The essential difference between the three religions is that the Christians believe the Messiah was Jesus, the Moslems believe the Prophet was Mohammed, and the Jews think the guy they want, has not shown up yet. They are very patient people. :)

  The Christians find it a little easier to ally with the Jews because the Jews were never big on the whole "slaughter the infidels" thing unless God told them to in a territorial dispute, (Jericho) and they had a history of getting conquered themselves, by the Egyptians and then the Romans (and then the Nazis) so they had to learn to chill.  (Except when it comes to Palestinians.)  The Christians mostly abandoned religious execution in favour of tolerance and conversion, (because Science got more powerful than they could have guessed) while some sects of Muslims are still quite into it ... but the Crusades, never really ended and so the middle east has been a battleground of one sort or another, for thousands of years. 

  The upward pointing triangle of the FST logo, is the Alchemical symbol for fire.

 

WillyT

Thank you for posting this and for the participants who consented. I was hoping to join yesterday but I was anchored down to the couch with extreme fatigue.

MadM3rlin

When will the September chat be? I am bummed I missed this last one.

WillyT

Quote from: MadM3rlin on Aug 13, 2014, 03:50:13 PM
When will the September chat be? I am bummed I missed this last one.

Hi MadM3rlin they're usually the second Tuesday of every month. An email is usually sent out the day before as well.

Mystress

  Chats will be moving to mondays starting next month. Second monday of each month at 11: am pacific time which is also secondlife time- sl is based in San Francisco.

  You get the email notice by joining the FST members group in secondlife and setting your viewer to send offline messages via email. Send me an im in secondlife or ask to be added to the group at your first chat.

  If your computer is too slow for sl graphics there are some text based viewers you can use, some people use them to log into sl with their smart phone. If you plan to do that, let me know so I can teleport you to a good spot where you wont be standing on the furniture or somebodys head. :) We will still see you but you wont see us or be able to move.