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Title: garyg's introduction
Post by: garyg on Oct 13, 2007, 03:50:26 AM
Hello Everyone.

This is my first post, though I did meet some of you last month in chat so hello again.

I actually started FST on July 4th but have not had much to comment on so far because I have studied most of the subjects previously, sometimes practically but at least theoretically. Then again at times when I go back to review a lesson and it seems totally new to me.  :)

I was going to try to explain my background but every time I start writing I look at my past  from a different angle so, for now I'll just say that I've looked at mysticism from both the eastern (Buddhist/Taoist/Hindu) and western (Egyptian/Hermetic/Celtic) viewpoints, as well as Jungian psychology and Joseph Campbell (and their followers). So I feel pretty much at home here with Mystress' eclectic approach.

My family upbringing was non-religious so I'm fairly clueless when it comes to Christianity though I've recently begun reading the Lolcat bible: http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1

My father merely told me to explore whatever I was drawn to and pick out the best parts that worked for me. He also started training me with ESP cards at the age of 5 so I was mystically inclined from an early age and had many experiences up to my early teens. I'm here to reclaim my birthright.

I'm up to "Lesson 13: Entity Removal" so I'm about a week and a half behind schedule which isn't bad as I had a busy summer of traveling and a minor accident/injury in July.

I am focusing on the grounding, heart chakra and entity removal exercises for now. I'm not going to go forward just yet as this is such an important part of the course and I want to get it well established before I move on. The entity removal stuff is entirely new to me so I'd like to see what happens with that as I've felt blocked most of my life though I was fairly sensitive/psychic up until the age of 14 or so.

So, I don't have much to say yet. I'm just setting up base camp and thankful to Mystress for setting up this course. There IS a bunch of stuff going on energetically and otherwise but I don't know how useful it would be to go into many details as every day is different and its all subjective.

Anyway I thought I should say hello and break the ice. I'll loosen up more as I go along.

Talk to you soon.

garyg     
Title: Re: garyg's introduction
Post by: juergen on Oct 16, 2007, 04:54:29 PM
Welcome, Gary to this philosophical group thing!

i think, from Your intro it is more than clear, that You are a dedicated seeker.
What You say about going back to lessons: that they appear totally new is something i clearly confirm.
I can only add that they appear even fresher, wonderful pheno!
Your dad must be a remarkable man, i guess most mystic people have at least some religious streak to them, but he seems to be a kind of his own, what You relate of him enjoys me a lot.

Bible study and Judaism(and its sects) is a bit tricky; for example catholics ignore the bible largely; then from former times it is reported of laypeople who learned the whole bible by heart!
One gets so easily stuck, and there are other, easier passages, that would however firstly require  a gun licence: sheer glorification of violence! -- and then there may be jewels as well;
here in FST i feel i'm  given a red thread which can help getting to the own feet, and then somewhere in the future one can take another glance at the bible..
Then the lolcat-version, hmm guess it's alot of a matter of trust toward the parodist(then study directly Hebrew and Greek/Latin might be the faster way ;D)

The demarcation line between this course and Christianity follows the attitude toward separation, since Judaism and its sects comprehends God as separate; Christianity is keeping to it, the Greek influences don't alter this: Jupiter or Jaweh/Jesus are both usurpers: ambitious spiritual divine beings, maybe planets, maybe archetypes. In any case are they far from the Void, Goddess, Source of All, Who gives us identity.
Maybe The Holy Ghost is the Christian term that comes near to Goddess, i guess so.
So, Christianity is really an eclectic thing; But i believe that FST is very ancient, sort of a prodigal daughter/son thing (see bible ;D)

The forum can be helpful even if we don't finally put the issue forth. Just having it's availability  in the back of the head makes a difference.

bye for now;
juergen


Title: Re: garyg's introduction
Post by: garyg on Oct 16, 2007, 09:30:31 PM
Welcome, Gary to this philosophical group thing!

Thanks Jeurgen. I'm happy to be Here!

I think, from Your intro it is more than clear, that You are a dedicated seeker. What You say about going back to lessons: that they appear totally new is something i clearly confirm. I can only add that they appear even fresher, wonderful pheno!

After re-reading my introduction I should humbly state that I'm not claiming to  have mastered any of the traditions that I mentioned. I've drawn more from some than others. I usually move on when the systems become so convoluted, using words and intellect to try to explain what is beyond words and intellect, that they get lost. As Mystress says "it's really only the lower chakra's issues that can be taught" and "The learning of the upper chakras is experiential." 
One book that I fell in love with was the Tao Te Ching which I found at age 14 which doesn't even begin to name the unnameable. To me it is a wonderful expression of how duality (Yin/Yang) derives and exists within the Unity of All That Is (The Tao). I remember thinking, Hey I guess I'm a Taoist :)
   

Your dad must be a remarkable man, i guess most mystic people have at least some religious streak to them, but he seems to be a kind of his own, what You relate of him enjoys me a lot.

Yes I think so. Unfortunately he passed on when I was only 10 years old so I never had the opportunity to talk to him in depth about any of these these things and he didn't push me to accept anything. It wasn't until later that I discovered some of his books like Patanjali's Aphorisms and then I recalled that he used to meditate. He was a Jazz musician so a bit outside of societal norms to begin with.

Bible study and Judaism(and its sects) is a bit tricky; for example catholics ignore the bible largely; then from former times it is reported of laypeople who learned the whole bible by heart!
One gets so easily stuck, and there are other, easier passages, that would however firstly require  a gun licence: sheer glorification of violence! -- and then there may be jewels as well; here in FST i feel i'm  given a red thread which can help getting to the own feet, and then somewhere in the future one can take another glance at the bible..


Yes, I think we're on the same page. Its too late for me to begin finding my way through that maze. I feel my energies would be spent more productively elsewhere. Like HERE  ;D  

Then the lolcat-version, hmm guess it's alot of a matter of trust toward the parodist(then study directly Hebrew and Greek/Latin might be the faster way Grin)

Yeah I should have put a smiley on that. I meant no offense by posting that. I just happen to like cats and to LOL. 

The demarcation line between this course and Christianity follows the attitude toward separation, since Judaism and its sects comprehends God as separate; ...
<respectful snip>
In any case are they far from the Void, Goddess, Source of All, Who gives us identity.Maybe The Holy Ghost is the Christian term that comes near to Goddess, i guess so. So, Christianity is really an eclectic thing;


I feel that any system that doesn't include the concept of Non-duality is incomplete.

But i believe that FST is very ancient, sort of a prodigal daughter/son thing (see bible Grin)

Yeah, its Alchemical and also Shakti/Goddess doing the Dance of the Seven Veils. Yeah Baby!

The forum can be helpful even if we don't finally put the issue forth. Just having it's availability  in the back of the head makes a difference.

bye for now;
juergen

Thanks juergen. Its fun talking to You. I would have posted before now but have been working through old blocks and armouring that has built up over the years.

The first week I started the grounding I had bone deep aches and tremors in my forearms and lower legs and developed a rash. My hands and arms turned bright red and bumpy. That has passed and now I have brand new smooth skin!

After that I moved through tightness and swift beating sensations like a scared rabbit in my power chakra. Until that passed I couldn't feel the sense of fearlessness that Mystress describes.
Right now I'm moving through the back of the Heart chakra and the nape of the neck. Lots of stuff there. So I'm just trying to stay relaxed and go with the flow. It will be nice to finally get rid of the armour and sweep out the cooties.

Talk to you later,
g.

     

Title: Re: garyg's introduction
Post by: juergen on Oct 23, 2007, 06:13:48 PM
 I usually move on when the systems become so convoluted, using words and intellect to try to explain what is beyond words and intellect, that they get lost. As Mystress says "it's really only the lower chakra's issues that can be taught" and "The learning of the upper chakras is experiential." 

I think i get what Ya mean, when people appear propagating their 'isms' and adopt slightly fanatic appeals.. and beware someone considers to contradict them.
I would add that even the learning of the lower chakras is experiential. Language and language can be worlds apart. For example the common language of a society , lets take the era of the Tao Te Ching, which was also the big time of Confucianism; and i bet that language swung more to the law and order side than toward mysticism. So i understand the 1st paragraph as a regret for the poor literal potentiality of that time.
However poor the language may be - are we today having a much better time of it, than the old Chineese had? - it's amazing though when a riddle is solved and pieces fall into place: the odd text cristalclear! I believe that all mysticism has a representation(mapping into) in the chakras, and while they can't be taught, at least hints can be given. At least i even believe it is true for e v e r y  teaching or development. This world of pop culture understands better than  ever the literary illusion; --> multimedia! Holy Cow! something comes to the mind... Is Mystress going to be a Pop Queen? Halleluja!!!

To me it is a wonderful expression of how duality (Yin/Yang) derives and exists within the Unity of All That Is (The Tao). I remember thinking, Hey I guess I'm a Taoist Smiley   

Think i also want to be a Taoist, Your enthusiasm is infecting! Then i would have to read it first umh? :o And if it were only, to see if i can learn something more about duality and confirm what i think i just found. I'm wondering, are there more dualities like there is more than 1 Trinity? Is e.g. fem/male the chief duality? Or even THE duality? What about growth and decline, aren't they dualities too? Or Spirit and Matter, still another duality? Eternal/mortal, synonymous with one of those mentioned, or a further duality of its own?
Is the Material World the cause of duality or is She just a hot Gal who some "guys" are battling for?

Yes I think so. Unfortunately he passed on when I was only 10 years old so I never had the opportunity to talk to him in depth about any of these these things and he didn't push me to accept anything. It wasn't until later that I discovered some of his books like Patanjali's Aphorisms and then I recalled that he used to meditate. He was a Jazz musician so a bit outside of societal norms to begin with.

A Jazzer?  Eyh that's cute, this is sooo great! A piece of Charlie Mingus comes to the mind: "Meditation about integration", i think it says a lot about Jazz-people... being the son of an artist,  must feel cool, eh?

Yes, I think we're on the same page. Its too late for me to begin finding my way through that maze. I feel my energies would be spent more productively elsewhere. Like HERE  Grin

Yup!

Yeah I should have put a smiley on that. I meant no offense by posting that. I just happen to like cats and to LOL. 

The smiley was already there.
Here's a cat with a willing blues legend...sorry, tooo short

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrbBkSflR7A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrbBkSflR7A)

You will have found it for yourself already, but only to complete the pic: italics is Mystress' TM, LOL!

see Ya ..

Title: Re: garyg's introduction
Post by: Mystress on Oct 23, 2007, 10:27:06 PM
garyg wrote:

I usually move on when the systems become so convoluted, using words and intellect to try to explain what is beyond words and intellect, that they get lost. As Mystress says "it's really only the lower chakra's issues that can be taught" and "The learning of the upper chakras is experiential."   

http://kundalini-teacher.com/lessons/simplicity.html (http://kundalini-teacher.com/lessons/simplicity.html)

  http://www.dropline.net/cats/images/dune-cat.jpg (http://www.dropline.net/cats/images/dune-cat.jpg)

  :) :) :) Welcome garyg. 
Title: Re: garyg's introduction
Post by: juergen on Oct 24, 2007, 10:41:11 AM
Hi Mystress, Gary, and all of you,

it wasn't there anymore: http://www.dropline.net/cats/images/dune-cat.jpg (http://www.dropline.net/cats/images/dune-cat.jpg)

but it's probably this:

http://www.therogueforums.com/imagehosting/5846a40b9b88248.jpg (http://www.therogueforums.com/imagehosting/5846a40b9b88248.jpg)

at least delicious!

meow and a paw-stretch :)